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Not sure if its been posted before http://www.pcper.com/article.php?a [...] pert&pid=4

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the gt260 is a much better deal ,matches the 4850x2 according to the review unless its ultra hi res.

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Old age getting the better of you ? LOL how many are you going to post ?

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] review#bas

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Or, you could say, spending alot less for the best wont cut it either, meaning having the best res, you dont want to go cheap

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This isnt the same one, or are you satisfied with just one bench from one site? Maybe its a heat issue eh ? heheh

Looking at my old thread, it would seem another bench was needed. What? Dont you like this one either?

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Heat issue is right. About time you got it figured out, LOL

Reply to swifty_morgan

Whats wrong? This hasnt been posted before. If it was, then I would be wrong, but it hasnt been posted before. I guess according to you, we need only post 1, and if you recall, theres been several requests for this info.
Or, did you forget to remember that? Or, prefer not to see it?

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x-bit do a proper review of the 260, its not as clear cut as nvidia make's out
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/v [...] -1024.html
BTW homeboy2 the 4850x2 gets the best of the 280 never mind the 260

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Actually, I was wrong, its not a heat issue, its a x2 issue. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] e#t1884949

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jaydeejohn wrote :

Or, you could say, spending alot less for the best wont cut it either, meaning having the best res, you dont want to go cheap

No... no... you really couldn't say that.

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Am I the only one that noticed in the pcper benchmarks, the 280 OC doesn't perform ANY better than the 260+? (maybe less than 5fps difference at any given time) Wonder what that's all about...

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mtyermom wrote :

Am I the only one that noticed in the pcper benchmarks, the 280 OC doesn't perform ANY better than the 260+? (maybe less than 5fps difference at any given time) Wonder what that's all about...

This isn't the 260 were talking about here, its the 260+ which has more shaders and has been rumored to perform better than a 280 when OCed. You really can't expect to see a huge FPS difference between the two, of course the 280 will be faster by a few, but not a lot. In fact, all of these cards perform fairly similarly, and there is little difference between them in the first place.

Reply to doomturkey

So in other words nvidia shot themselves in the foot, as it were, regarding sales of the 280 when they released the 260+. (Of course, some will still buy the 280 because it adds 8 inches to their e-peen)

Reply to mtyermom

Currently, there is only 1 4850 X2 available, and it is $409 ($389 after MIR) on NewEgg. So, it's about $100 more than 2 4850's in CF.

The 4870 with 1G GDDR5 is also $100 less and a better buy for most.

Reply to DXRick

the 4850x2 is a $100 premium over 2x 4850 in CF, but you also have to factor in the likely >$100 upgrade to a crossfire motherboard

Reply to mtyermom

I for one would get the 4850/70 x2 over the 2 individual cards... scaling is generally better... and its just simpler

But, I'm only sticking 1 card in a slot at max (1 pci-e slot taken up max, never multi CARD setups not gpu setups)

Reply to thogrom

GTX 260+ is the clear winner from all standpoints for 16x12 and below. Minimum framerate I think is too often overshadowed by average, and all 16x12 benchmarks have the GTX neck-and-neck or above for minimums. Over 100 cheaper, better power consumption and single GPU consistency.

4850 X2 is a boon for 19x10 and beyond, but I have a feeling a lot of 22" owners will wastefully buy this card.

Reply to JuiceJones

Yep nvidia was blinded by the 4870 512mb performance and price point that they had to shoot their self in the foot

Reply to cyber_jockey

in the uk the cheapest 260 is £245 and the cheapest 4870 1gig is £218.
I know what one i would go for the cheap one with dx10.1, and i dont want to hear the nvidia rhetoric that there is no dx10.1 games on the market so its a waste of time, well not for me, I like to make my components last and by the time i want to change my card dx11 games will be out.
i wouldn't even consider a dx10 card over dx10.1

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rangers wrote :

x-bit do a proper review of the 260, its not as clear cut as nvidia make's out
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/v [...] -1024.html
BTW homeboy2 the 4850x2 gets the best of the 280 never mind the 260

it should, it cost almost twice as much as a 260

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Homeboy2 wrote :

it should, it cost almost twice as much as a 260

Ive not seen it on sale yet but it is supposed to come in £10 less than the 280

Reply to rangers

260 = 209
4850x2 = 400 on Newegg.

Reply to Homeboy2

At those prices spend a little more and sli the 260's

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the 4850x2 389 on newegg
the 280 is 384 what is the better deal, you tell me

Reply to rangers

the 280 lol, single GPu with out the hassle of the dual, and from the reviews, the 280 GTX has a higher min frame rate, and sometimes on par or more AVG (ofc the 4850 does come on top in some)

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toss in dx10.1 and we have a clear winner

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im talking 2x260's = 418 blows away the 4850x2

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Reply to Homeboy2

that maybe true but im talking about one card

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Homeboy2 wrote :

im talking 2x260's = 418 blows away the 4850x2

And the GTX280 too, so it's not really a fair comparison is it? As a single card the 4850x2 is superior to gtx260

Unless everyone buys 2x GTX260s instead of the GTX280

Assuming ppl want to use X58 too...

Id wait for ATIs performance driver tho as it seems one company has released one the other hasnt justtt yet

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and here you can get a proper look at the 260 with the new drivers
http://legionhardware.com/document.php?id=792
with new and old games

Reply to rangers

rangers wrote :

toss in dx10.1 and we have a clear winner

How much did DX 10.1 help the 4000s in Far Cry 2?

DX 10.1 doesn't seem to be bring to the table anything, did u read reviews, in Far Cry 2, the 4000 series stutters. So much for DX 10.1 for now

You can't base a winner on DX 10.1. DX 10 wasn't playable when it came out, even if the card can do dx 10, doesn't mean it should be worth it. The X1950 pro still sold like crazy even though it was DX 9, and it was weaker than the 8800 GTS 320.

So really the clear winner is the single GPU with almost the same frames. Common u can't seriously deny that.

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Reply to L1qu1d

SLI + mobo. I love the blanket staements that just add another card means? Having the right mobo. Thatll cost more money right there. Kinda like gaming on a console, its good to add the TV costs in.

The 4850 is faster than the G280, the G260 is eol, and loses to the 4850 single in a few games.

IF you have the mobo for SLI, then yes, go for the G260 plain jane, havnt given it another go yet addition. This just competes with a single slot solution, and for nVidia, thats the G280, and it wins out

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Reply to jaydeejohn

course im assuming a sli mobo, if it aint dont do it! duh! IF i had a sli mobo and a 210 budget i would buy a 260, if i was spending 400 i would buy 2x260.
I rest my case.

Reply to Homeboy2

I agree. 2 usually is better than one, its just that some people dont agree. As the setups for sli/cf get faster, theres less chance of MS happening. As cpus become more powerful, the same. Thing is, these cards arent meant for multi card setups, but for single slot solutions.

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L1qu1d wrote :

i dont base it on dx10.1. if you look through the posts you will see that homerdog brings up the 260 being a better deal, and i go on to tell him that, in the uk the 4870 is cheaper/better deal
so price is a factor as-well
there is method to my madness

Reply to rangers

no no I undersand that but I just answered ur which is better buy the 280 or the 4850 X2.

lol

If the 4850 X2 were cheaper than the 280 GTX or if the 280 GTX was more expensive, than the argument takes a 180 degree U turn, and I would lean towards the P/P ratio.

But really to risk microstuttering, and the whole Idea that if the game doesn't support sli/Corssfire I would be stuck with 1 4850 rather than the 280 GTX I would be crushed.

I mean atleast when i see the 4870 X2, I can say well incase Crossfire isn't support, the X2 will turn into a 1 gig 4870...well I'm sorry but that would put my mind at eas compared to the 4850 X2

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