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October 30, 2008 9:57:09 AM

So, its my first build and I've looked through what seems like 1,000's of pieces to get everything right, please let me know if i'm doing something wrong. I tried to keep it under $1,000 and I have a nice foundling monitor that I repaired. Anyhow I know that the mobo will only run xfire in x8, and its named "kurt's build please rate" on new egg. I made it public, but hasn't posted publicly yet so I don't know the web address.

RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WB530P Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case With 530W Modular LED Power Supply

ASUS P5Q Deluxe LGA 775 Intel P45 Intel Motherboard--
I thought about using the p5q pro for 60 bucks less, any
advice about that?

two SAPPHIRE 100236L Radeon HD 3650 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
Do I need a crossfire bridge interconnect cable?

Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 Wolfdale 2.53GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E7200

two OCZ Platinum Revision 2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory (so 4gb total)

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model iHAS120-08

Koutech IO-FPM421 5-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader with USB 2.0 / Firewire 1394a / Audio Ports / eSATA (3.5")
I know the case already has front audio ports, but this adds
firewire and esata... but can the mobo support them?

Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000

Logitech G5 2-Tone 7 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Laser Mouse

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD

Creative Inspire 245 4 Watts 2.0 Speaker

I know its a long post and thanks for hanging in there and helping me out.
kurt

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October 30, 2008 10:15:41 AM

You might want to check if the RAM is compatible with the board. Lately Asus boards are kinda picky. I know that the Rampage Formula has problems with the OCZ reaper series.

What is the resolution you will be playing in? You will need a crossfire bridge.. to connect the 2 cards. Why not go for a single 4850 instead? If you're gaming below 1900x1200 then the 4850 works fine. When you need more power, then get another 4850 card and crossfire it.

If you plan to OC, which you should to avoid bottleneck, you will need a good heatsink for your cpu.

Good luck with your new rig!
October 30, 2008 10:39:38 AM

Even the cheapest 4850 card is $50 more than the running the 4650's in crossfire and gaming on a budget is rough. I wasn't planning on oc'ing right away but ina while probably get a zalman 92mm cpu cooler.
will definitely check on the ram though thanks for the heads up!
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October 30, 2008 12:35:16 PM

I did come up with another question on the video card issue I thought of it while looking at cards, but forgot about it as I got more and more excited about my future comp. Is it possible to replace one of the 4650's with a 4850 in the future and still run crossfire or do the cards have to match?
October 30, 2008 1:31:45 PM

If the 4650 is xfire compatible it should run crossfire yes. The 4xxx series can all be crossfired together.
October 30, 2008 2:58:58 PM

The mem should be good to go, I couldnt find any actual documentation on it, however ocz has a guide on how to optimize ram on a p5q.

It's good to know the 4xxx series can be crossfired together, so I can get a 4850 next year sometime...
October 31, 2008 8:05:26 AM

ok so, i'm just out on a limb here but by looking at stream processor count the 4850 has 800 and in crossfire my 3650s would have 240? or do they not multiply, and actually i'd only get like 80% more or something like that by using crossfire anyhow, so the single 4850 should be well worth the 20 bucks. so i've decided to get either the HIS Hightech H485QS512P Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported IceQ4 Video Card - Retail or the ASUS EAH4850 TOP/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card Either way they are large units and how does that affect my pci slots? really, if one board is covering 2 slots how can i run crossfire at a later date????
October 31, 2008 8:44:16 AM

The board has the PCIE slots spaced out to allow you to plug in 2 GPUs.
October 31, 2008 11:41:22 AM

so in the picture here http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=1...
so the blue is the 16x and the black is th 8x right? and the blue automatically slows to the 8x needed then?

still is the p5q deluxe worth $60 more than the pro? The only major difference I can see is in the cooling fins and the deluxe is 16 phase power.

would also like to know which video card is quiter/cooler or just plain better the HIS hightech 4850 IceQ4 or the Asus eah 4850 top/htdi/512????
November 1, 2008 10:29:12 PM

i was just reading the manual on the p5q and in the memmory qvl looking at the ram i have selected will only support on pair in dual channel memmory configuration. so any suggestions on comparable ram that I should try?
November 1, 2008 11:26:05 PM

Meh get the P5Q Pro and put the savings toward a 4850. A one GPU solution is preferable to a crossfiring 2 weaker GPUs.

I got no idea how good a raidmax PSU is ....but I would go with a larger Antec, Corsair or PC Power and Cooling one.

The E7200 is a great CPU.....but if your on a budget it doesnt make any sense to buy that and a CPU cooler. Better to put the $ from the cooler into a better CPU like the E8400. Its got twice the L2 cache and a higher stock clock.

640GB is the sweet spot for WD Hard Drives as far as value goes.

MS vista 64 bit home premium ....I got one from microcenter recently for $79.
November 2, 2008 4:33:32 AM

I'm surprised it took this long for anyone to mention the Raidmax PSU. That'd be the first thing I'd get rid of. Raidmax PSU's are generally considered a ticking time bomb. If you're stuck on that case, just get the version without the PSU.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You could then pick up a decent PSU like this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you're not dead set on that case, you can get the same PSU in a bundle with an Antec 300 for $84.94 which would save you enough to upgrade to an E8400.

You should also avoid 4x1GB. Four RAM sticks is harder on a motherboard. You'll be much better off just going with a quality 2x2GB set like this:

mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $64.99 - $20 MIR
November 2, 2008 6:34:35 AM

The ram is getting dumped for sure for a 2x2gb set haven't fully decided kinda liking the mushkins above becuase their 1.8v and i will oc one day but it'll lbe stock for a bit. Why do som ram have heatsinks and others do not yet on other boards people are recommending oc'ing them, I don't get it....

The power supply will also stay for a bit, but I was planning on replacing it eventually. before i start overclocking, like in a few months take another hundred bucks and get a cooler and a better powersupply. I have the one mentioned above in an upgrades list as well as the zalmann 92mm cpu fan, but i was also looking at a cooler master psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... is it worth saving up for one like that? I know the more energy efficient the psu the less heat will be generated.

Taking the advice to heart on the 4850's get one to begin with and i'll eventually get there with the crossfire, but it wont be for a while anyhow VERY GLAD you guys all helped me out, or i would have got my system and been pissed that i only see 3.2 gigs of ram....and seeing the light on the 4850's with 800 processors over only the 240 on the 4650's
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