yep, the low cpu score is a clear indicator that you're limited by the cpu. If the mobo supports core2duos get one of those, if not, then get a new mobo as well
Wow, I didn't think CPU mattered much with 3DMarks except for the cpu score it gives. I thought 3DMarks were mainly based on the GPU. I guess the CPU/motherboard are a bottleneck for the GPU here.
BTW roadrunner197069, I know may have used sarcasm, but the Pentium D were released 3 years ago (2005) and not in the 90s lol!
Anyway, I'll be upgrading my cpu and motherboard as well then.
Yeah, the CPU upgrade is the way to go. You should be able to keep your current motherboard though, if you can find a 1066FSB 65nm Core 2 duo (any E6x00 series). If you get an E6600 or E6700 and overclock it, you should be fine for a while without needing a motherboard upgrade.
Ahh dang. I checked what it says on my motherboard and it says "Revision 1.00G". But the newer dual core processors are only supported with revision 2.01G. So I'm out of luck in keeping the motherboard and need to look for a new one.
I would be getting an E8400 CPU as well cos they as quite cheap compared to others with good performance. Don't need a quadcore for my needs yet, unless I come across some cheap one.
Wow, I didn't think CPU mattered much with 3DMarks except for the cpu score it gives. I thought 3DMarks were mainly based on the GPU. I guess the CPU/motherboard are a bottleneck for the GPU here.
BTW roadrunner197069, I know may have used sarcasm, but the Pentium D were released 3 years ago (2005) and not in the 90s lol!
Anyway, I'll be upgrading my cpu and motherboard as well then.
Ah, but the Pentium D is simply 2 old P4's squeezed together on a chip. That is why RR is saying 90's tech. The P4 tech basically does go back to the late 90's!
Generally no, the CPU is not that important with a modern GPU.
But seriously, the Pentium D is that slow.
Even a low end AMD Athlon 64 X2 CPU will benchmark double what the P-D will.
A slow Core Duo, then blows away the Athlon by 25%.
A fast Core Duo then..........well you are getting the picture.
OK, so finally I managed to build my first PC. It's easy to do but takes a lot of time.... but worth it cos you save some cash!
Here's my system spec once again:
Intel E8400 3.0GHz
BFG 9800GTX+ OC
Asus P5K Premium
OCZ 4GB DDR2-6400 800MHz
Corsair HX520W PSU
Zalman CNPS9700 LED Cooler
I ran 3DMarks once again and this time round got a massive score of 13208
Looks like the CPU did it.
Now, I'm new to overclocking and want to overclock this baby to 3.6GHz to begin with. I've read reviews that you can achieve this frequency without increasing the stock voltage and there is no change in temperature.
Could someone give me some numbers to achieve this please. What do I need to change in the BIOS?
I know this much that FSB x multiplier = CPU frequency, and that I need to increase the FSB to overclock.
I've been looking around the BIOS and there's so many settings. What exactly do I change? Thanks in advance to anyone who could help me out.
OK, so finally I managed to build my first PC. It's easy to do but takes a lot of time.... but worth it cos you save some cash!
Here's my system spec once again:
Intel E8400 3.0GHz
BFG 9800GTX+ OC
Asus P5K Premium
OCZ 4GB DDR2-6400 800MHz
Corsair HX520W PSU
Zalman CNPS9700 LED Cooler
I ran 3DMarks once again and this time round got a massive score of 13208
Looks like the CPU did it.
Now, I'm new to overclocking and want to overclock this baby to 3.6GHz to begin with. I've read reviews that you can achieve this frequency without increasing the stock voltage and there is no change in temperature.
Could someone give me some numbers to achieve this please. What do I need to change in the BIOS?
I know this much that FSB x multiplier = CPU frequency, and that I need to increase the FSB to overclock.
I've been looking around the BIOS and there's so many settings. What exactly do I change? Thanks in advance to anyone who could help me out.
Yup, I've already read that guide. Nice guide. That's why I want to overclock it to only 3.6GHz. The guided uses different hardware. That's why I was looking for settings for my particular system.
I have an E8400, too, and from what I understand, you just have to increase your FSB from 333 to 400 to get 3.6GHz. My P5Q PRO mb has this "AI Tweaker" section that allows me to OC in the bios. I just haven't found a need to OC so haven't tried it yet.
I have an E8400, too, and from what I understand, you just have to increase your FSB from 333 to 400 to get 3.6GHz. My P5Q PRO mb has this "AI Tweaker" section that allows me to OC in the bios. I just haven't found a need to OC so haven't tried it yet.
Damn, I can't believe it was that easy. I thought I had to mess around with other settings too... although I think I need to set the PCIe speed to 100mhz and memory ratio to 1.1 (still reading around.)
...but you're right. Changing FSB to 400 takes cpu speed to 3.61Ghz. I did another 3dmark test and I got a score of:
14377 3dmarks
That's an increase of +1169 3dmarks from score at stock speed.
As for my temps, they idle at 35 and stay around 45 at load. That's with the Zalman cooler set to lowest speed.
kingtz, I have AI gear 2 on the P5K premium motherboard so when I am not doing cpu intensive work, the clock speed automatically remains very low to reduce power. As soon as I start some program that requires the cpu, the clock speed steps up and when I run some cpu intensive program or game, the clock speed goes to maximum.
So to me, overclocking doesn't matter. If it is needed by some program and game, the cpu will automatically switch to higher speed.
Damn, I can't believe it was that easy. I thought I had to mess around with other settings too... although I think I need to set the PCIe speed to 100mhz and memory ratio to 1.1 (still reading around.)
...but you're right. Changing FSB to 400 takes cpu speed to 3.61Ghz. I did another 3dmark test and I got a score of:
14377 3dmarks
That's an increase of +1169 3dmarks from score at stock speed.
As for my temps, they idle at 35 and stay around 45 at load. That's with the Zalman cooler set to lowest speed.
kingtz, I have AI gear 2 on the P5K premium motherboard so when I am not doing cpu intensive work, the clock speed automatically remains very low to reduce power. As soon as I start some program that requires the cpu, the clock speed steps up and when I run some cpu intensive program or game, the clock speed goes to maximum.
So to me, overclocking doesn't matter. If it is needed by some program and game, the cpu will automatically switch to higher speed.
Ok, now I'm a bit perplexed. I just ran 3DMark06 and my score is about 1000 points lower than yours and we have a similar setup.
SM2.0: 5499
HDR/SM3.0 6514
CPU: 3234
TOTAL: 13305
My system:
CPU: E8400 @ 3.6GHz
HD4850 @ 700/2300
2x2GB OCZ Plat. DDR2 1000 @ 5-5-5-15
74GB Raptor
64 Vista
A couple hundred point difference, I can understand, but does the 4850 score 1000 points less than a 9800GTX+?
IIRC, the 4850 scores lower in 3dmark than it does in games (compared to the 9800GTX+). You should be just as fast in games, but a bit slower in 3dmark.
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