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We do it for fun. The MVP program is strictly for volunteers, though many
are paid professional IT persons. All support provided here is free, whether
it be from an MVP or one of the many other technically literate helpers, and
done in our own spare time. I find that I learn just as much as I teach even
after many years of this, so for me it's a fair trade.
--
Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
"Dana" <Dana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:962A1039-134C-4098-AB28-59AF64FF126F@microsoft.com...
> Mike, I can't thank you enough for ALL your help and level head today -
> After
> eleventybillion phone calls, we did actually get jumpers on both the HD
> and
> the CD, but it still gave the error. At this risk of us killing each other
> (over the phone), I "gave up" and said I really didn't know what else to
> do.
> Since this was for a friend of my mom's, we've now convinced her to buck
> up
> and go buy a new computer.. Anyone in the market for a boat anchor??!!
>
> I do appreciate your help - maybe I'll tackle it another time - but
> really,
> I kinda doubt it....
>
> Have a great Sunday! P.S. I'm curious and have always wanted to ask - is
> this your "job" or do you guys just do this for "fun?"???!!!
>
> Thanks again,
> d
>
> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
>> Dana
>>
>> When a hard drive is used as master to a slave unit, more often than not,
>> it
>> has to be jumpered as master.. the machine is registering the CD as being
>> a
>> valid drive, but no longer seeing the hard drive, hence the disc boot
>> failure..
>>
>> If removing the CD drive from all cables enables the computer to boot
>> normally again, you will have to get a jumper for the hard drive, or use
>> the
>> CD as master on the secondary IDE channel.. I guess if you don't have a
>> jumper for the hard drive, you most likely don't have a second IDE
>> cable..
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall
>> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "Dana" <Dana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:83D2D075-6327-4BF3-A08C-510B66728519@microsoft.com...
>> >I downloaded a win98 boot disk info and emailed it to her - she put it
>> >on a
>> > floppy..... Without the floppy, we get the disk boot error - with it,
>> > she
>> > gets to choose with cd support, but it ends up at a dos prompt on a:\
>> > and
>> > .....
>> >
>> > "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Dana,
>> >>
>> >> Win98 disks were generally not bootable, you needed a boot floppy with
>> >> CD
>> >> support to use them from a DOS prompt.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Best of Luck,
>> >>
>> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> >> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
>> >> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> >>
>> >> "Dana" <Dana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:2A870992-4D56-4368-B7CF-6E26A15034D8@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hey Mike,
>> >> > The cd and hard drive ARE on the same ribbon - there are no jumpers
>> >> > on
>> >> > the
>> >> > cd drive - and there are none on the hard drive but they are
>> >> > available
>> >> > to
>> >> > be
>> >> > put on the hard drive - if we make them a master, will the cd be the
>> >> > slave?
>> >> >
>> >> > If she just puts the cd in and boots, she gets a DISK BOOT FAILURE
>> >> > message...
>> >> >
>> >> > "Jerry" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> She will have to edit CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT to add the
>> >> >> drivers
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> CD-ROM.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:uBGt647uFHA.3864@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > Dana
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Win 9x has native support for CD drives.. one might question if
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > CD
>> >> >> > drive has been jumpered correctly for installation on the ribbon
>> >> >> > cable..
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Example.. if the CD is being placed on the same ribbon cable as
>> >> >> > another
>> >> >> > drive, the jumper on the back should be set to slave.. if it is
>> >> >> > being
>> >> >> > placed on its very own cable, the jumper should be set to
>> >> >> > master.. I
>> >> >> > think
>> >> >> > that this is also the default jumper setting from new..
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Mike Hall
>> >> >> > MVP - Windows Shell/User
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Dana" <Dana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:686857DC-D231-47C1-A7CA-2E8D0C617BBD@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> Mike, well, I think she did that (she's starting to give me
>> >> >> >> attitude!
>> >> >> >> GRR),
>> >> >> >> but Win 98 doesn't need the driver for the cd-rom? It's been a
>> >> >> >> realllly
>> >> >> >> long
>> >> >> >> time since I've done any computer "building" - or adding any
>> >> >> >> hardware....
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> Dana
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Your mom just has to install the CD drive.. no diskette
>> >> >> >>> required..
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >>> Mike Hall
>> >> >> >>> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> "Dana" <Dana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >>> news:E35497A9-0C5B-4825-A27A-F4FD53D0C161@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >>> >I think I know the answer - BUT my mom is trying to install a
>> >> >> >>> >cd-rom
>> >> >> >>> >drive
>> >> >> >>> >in
>> >> >> >>> > an old Windows 98 machine. We need a system disk with cd-rom
>> >> >> >>> > support
>> >> >> >>> > on
>> >> >> >>> > it,
>> >> >> >>> > right? Do we get that off the Win98 machine she's trying to
>> >> >> >>> > fix
>> >> >> >>> > and
>> >> >> >>> > put it
>> >> >> >>> > on
>> >> >> >>> > a floppy? (It's for a friend of hers) - We CAN'T get it off
>> >> >> >>> > her
>> >> >> >>> > Windows XP
>> >> >> >>> > machine, can we????
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > ANY advice here? This all started because the friend's modem
>> >> >> >>> > died
>> >> >> >>> > and
>> >> >> >>> > a
>> >> >> >>> > new
>> >> >> >>> > modem didn't work, so I gave her an old box I had sitting
>> >> >> >>> > around -
>> >> >> >>> > but
>> >> >> >>> > the
>> >> >> >>> > DVD-ROM drive didnt' work and she can't get signed up for her
>> >> >> >>> > email!
>> >> >> >>> > ARGHGHGHG!!! It's never-ending!! and my mother and I are
>> >> >> >>> > about
>> >> >> >>> > to
>> >> >> >>> > come
>> >> >> >>> > to
>> >> >> >>> > blows, because she's in a different city and I'm doing this
>> >> >> >>> > over
>> >> >> >>> > the
>> >> >> >>> > phone!!
>> >> >> >>> > HAHA!!
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > THANKS!!
>> >> >> >>>
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