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March 10, 2010 12:06:38 AM

I think I have done enough research and want to get rolling on this.

I have:

Silverstone TJ09 case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

E8400 @ 3.6 (will get a Q9550 before they disappear)
The rest you can get from my profile if interested.

The list:
MPC655 variable pump
http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmcin12pu.html
Maybe a bit overkill but I want expansion options.

MCR220 (120x2) radiator
http://store.yahoo.com/yhst-65556269779593/swmcqposerab...
As good as I can do and stay in the case I think. Surely enough for just the CPU. If I decide I need more later I'll have to go out the back instead.

Res
http://store.yahoo.com/yhst-65556269779593/swmcmirere.h...

CPU block - Swiftech GTZ (775 version)
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...
The only place I could find this in stock... the newer ones don't seem to come with LGA 775 hardware.

8 feet Tygon tubing (1/2" ID)
http://store.yahoo.com/yhst-65556269779593/1id3odtyr.ht...

10 clamps
http://store.yahoo.com/yhst-65556269779593/heclnyhoclsi...

Radiator mounting kit for case
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6887/cas-353/Silverst...

2 more barbs for the rad
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2269/ex-tub-116/Dange...

Some UV blue cooling fluid
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7586/ex-liq-102/Primo...




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a c 86 K Overclocking
March 10, 2010 2:06:12 AM

Great job. It will cool your CPU just fine and give a long happy life.

Your second choice of a rad is very poor. It's outdated, needs massive fannage to perform. Your first choice was great. You could do better. You can learn more at the stickies at the top of this forum, mainly Martins and Skinnees. RESEARCH!

Your liquid is silly expernsive. Odd liquids no matter the marketing are a prime problem. How many links you want me to post to prove it? You only need Distilled water ($1 at Walgreens a gallon etc) and some Petras PHN Nuke, sold at many stores online, Petras sells it, use USPS shippg for cheap. The bottle will last forever.

Buy colored UV tubing, Primochill LRT is the current best out there.
My rig, look at the color.
http://www.overclockers.com/annual-water-cooling-cleani...
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March 10, 2010 8:19:26 AM

I didn't see many tests for dual 120s, but it looks like the Swiftech will do just fine for the application. Thanks for the heads up.

Maybe I'll just go with the clear tubing and dye... I have a very interesting glass lab piece I'm considering including in the loop if I can work out the right fittings.
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a c 86 K Overclocking
March 10, 2010 1:41:06 PM

NoNo No Dye. You can read all sorts of fun issues on XS once you get registered.
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March 10, 2010 10:38:00 PM

Thanks guys, I've pulled the trigger on everything but the dye.

I've read everything I can find on this subject, and I don't think it's as clear-cut as gets made out. There are also people saying they have had no issues with various additives... although the Feser One stuff seems to be a common culprit.
Really, I suspect flux and solder in the radiator are the biggest issues.

I'm interested in trying some stuff out. I will be replacing the CPU in a few months anyway and can evaluate the levels of particulate or separation at that point.

Whatever I decide to use, I'll be doing some fairly aggressive cleaning of the loop including all parts, and assembly will be done in as sterile an environment as I can get.

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a b K Overclocking
March 11, 2010 1:04:47 AM

^ Don't forget to leak test ;) 
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March 11, 2010 1:41:03 AM

No I won't.

Can plumber's tape be used on the barb threads and does it matter?
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a c 86 K Overclocking
March 11, 2010 2:08:58 AM

NONONONO

All the barbs have orings to seal the connection. You use it, you can crack the CPU block.

Dammit!

Leak test, something I wrote long ago. Hope it helps you.
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=...

It's in the stickies on the top of the forum already. I hope and pray for you, my uninformed one..........

And mentioned in at least one of the other links provided to you. You don't need it......
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March 11, 2010 3:24:10 AM

Conumdrum said:
NONONONO

All the barbs have orings to seal the connection. You use it, you can crack the CPU block.

Dammit!

Leak test, something I wrote long ago. Hope it helps you.
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=...

It's in the stickies on the top of the forum already. I hope and pray for you, my uninformed one..........

And mentioned in at least one of the other links provided to you. You don't need it......



:lol: 

I had read your guide somewhere else already... the only mention of Teflon tape in that thread says that it should be used, and none of the subsequent posters objected to the statement.

There is no mention of Teflon or plumber's tape in any write up I have seen, and I've followed all the links and read all the guides. That's why I asked.

In my many years, I have assembled and disassembled cooling systems in cars, motorcycles, boats, and even a refinery. Much of my dis-assembly experience has clearly shown me that heating any solid block will LOOSEN a fitting not tighten it. A torch is standard equipment for loosening fittings.

I wasn't thinking about introducing any tape into the CPU waterblock however. There doesn't seem to be much room. I was thinking more of the radiator.



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a c 86 K Overclocking
March 11, 2010 3:49:32 AM

I never posted about Teflontape. That was added to the 'once it's in your door'. I don't belong to that forum for that exact reason. It was added to their forum with my permission long ago, way before you knew the word overclocking I bet.

They have some odd ideas and I don't have that forum bookmarked.

The new (last 3 years) fittings all use o-rings to fit. No need for tef tape.

Thats the diff between hanging around and learning for months before making assumtions. If a slow smart dude, you should of known already.

Don't blame me, blame... And I never said it, they did, damn, it's the internet. It's all up to you.

3 months for me to learn WC and do it right.


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a c 479 K Overclocking
March 11, 2010 2:06:46 PM

Teflon tape will just get you in more trouble than trying to prevent. Typically, it doesn't seat flush and will cause you to have air pockets or creases where you are trying to have a seal. O-rings are common/standard on almost all fittings now, so take advantage of and embrace improvements.

Leak test your closed system, with the PSU bypassed (Google on how to jumper) or just ask. I have a diagram somewhere so I don't have to remember...if I recall, its green to any black...?
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a b K Overclocking
March 11, 2010 2:59:30 PM

rubix_1011 said:
with the PSU bypassed (Google on how to jumper) or just ask. I have a diagram somewhere so I don't have to remember...if I recall, its green to any black...?

:lol:  You obviously don't know Proximon
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March 11, 2010 4:36:10 PM

Yes, thanks guys. I realized when I reviewed the pics that all these threaded parts are only a few turns deep. When I asked about the tape I had this idea of 1/2" of threads for some reason. I suppose it would have been obvious once the parts are in hand.

It's green and black, but I think I have a 12V battery around that will be easier to handle.

Conumdrum, I really should have been clearer in my original post. I'm not an extreme overclocker... I only need to be happy with my current CPU performance, which I am. My interests in this project are almost completely aesthetic, and this is just a springboard project for a much more extensive modding project I'm planning with a friend.

Hence my stubborn fixation on dye. If it doesn't work out I'll only loose time and money.

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a b K Overclocking
March 11, 2010 9:35:41 PM

Proximon said:
E8400 @ 3.6 (will get a Q9550 before they disappear)

Hell, i've got a Xeon x3220 if you'd like to buy it.
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March 11, 2010 10:45:14 PM

Shadow703793 said:
^ You may want to check out these dyes:
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=171956

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=23...

Looks quite good, I'm planning to grab some in a month or so.


I had already placed my order on Mayhem's UK website earlier today ;) 
http://www.wcdyes.com
You have to expect a fairly large delay though, has to clear customs and such.

I ordered UV clear blue because I understand it's a different formulation from other dyes and may be less prone to reactions.

@jedimasterber, interesting, but I think I would have to have a Yorkfield if I went that route. I had never considered it though and now I see I'll have to look into it when the time comes. Those Xeons are likely to be available longer too.

I just saw a road map that showed LGA 775 CPUs being offered into Q1 2011, at least.
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April 6, 2010 10:05:18 AM

Best answer selected by Proximon.
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April 6, 2010 10:15:22 AM

Well, the dye was OK but I wasn't happy with the looks. The Clear Tygon tubing was nice to work with, but was never going to look right.

Primochill LRT turned out to be even better than I thought. I'm using low RPM blue LED Yate Loons, with the LEDs snipped so that they just glow from the UV CCFLs.

I'm at +10C core temps at idle currently.



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