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I have two friends with really old computers that are used solely for CS:S. We're all poor college students so money is an issue. Their setups currently run the game on minimum settings very poorly, they are hopeful of spending a small amount of money and getting a large performance boost. If I remember correctly one of the computers is a Pentium D @ 2.8ghz with 256mb of ram. I can't remember what speed the ram is and I've never used Intel systems so I'm not sure what his is. Probably DDR2-400? The other computer is a Sempron 3100 with 256mb of DDR-400. Both of the PCs have MX4000's which are PCI-E. I'm assuming the Pentium D is on a LGA775 socket, however it is possible it could be on the older socket(474 or something?) right? That is mostly irrelevant but if desired we could just drop in a Core 2 if its 775? The Sempron is most likely 754s which means upgrading the cpu is highly unlikely. I plan on sticking in a 1gb dimm into each and probably a 3850 or a 4830. After looking at the specs on the 3850 and the 4830 I'm unsure which is the better card. If the 4830 is better, is it worth the extra $40? More significantly, will those old CPU's even be able to utilize those gpus without posing as a serious bottle neck in regards to css? If not, would a 3850 or 4830 be over kill for css? If so, what is a better choice?(The availability of older cards has really gone down so finding them is obviously a problem) Is this most logical upgrade choice for $100-150?

Thank you for your thoughts.

P.s. No nvidia suggestions please.

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Both machines will benefit most from RAM upgrades.

You will have bottlenecking on those CPUs.
The 4830 looks to be the faster card, but I doubt you would see much difference with the CPUs.

Get 4670s and 2GB kits for both boards. They probably have poor PSUs anyway so why stress them out with more powerful video cards?

Reply to Proximon

Makes sense.

Thanks Proximon

Reply to reconspartan

2 gigs? Don't you think that's bad advice given that 1 is enough for cs? Plus, you can get this next to nothing. 512x2.

Plus those systems are outdated. Isn't the mx4000 a reg pci card?

The Pentium D should be okay with cs, the sempron on the other hand, I'm not sure. Either way, they need as least a gig, anything more doesn't make sense with these limited systems.

Lastly, you might have agp slots, all I got to say is, anything is better then the mx4000. Just don't spend too much on the graphics. Good luck.

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Ram will be a plus.
For some of the other questions it would be nice to knoe more about the systems.

Reply to bobbknight

habitat87 wrote :

2 gigs? Don't you think that's bad advice given that 1 is enough for cs? Plus, you can get this next to nothing. 512x2.

Plus those systems are outdated. Isn't the mx4000 a reg pci card?

The Pentium D should be okay with cs, the sempron on the other hand, I'm not sure. Either way, they need as least a gig, anything more doesn't make sense with these limited systems.

Lastly, you might have agp slots, all I got to say is, anything is better then the mx4000. Just don't spend too much on the graphics. Good luck.



I made the most I could out of the budget, and without having all the details. The OP said both boards had PCI-E slots, and I took him at his word. Any Source engine game will benefit from 2GB RAM.

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Sempron is fine with cs. It looks to me that this is mostly a ram issue.

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