This 1800 dollar NVIDIA build or 1800 dollar ATI?

The NVidia build only has the parts to build the computer and it about 20 dollars more.

It doesnt include a keyboard-monitor-speakers-and mouse like the ATI Build

heres the nvidia build(with ddr3 and 1000w PSU)

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/ [...] r=13534867




and heres the ATI

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/ [...] er=7346934


accessories can always easily be upgraded/added(monitor-keyboard-mouse) While the parts in the system arent somtin you just go update every now and then

Well that's alot of power you're packing,I've tried a 4870 and a gtx280 and now
'm using just a single 4870x2. and It's packing more than enough for me. and I'm using a 57" 1080p HDTV for my gaming.

Personally I was an nvidia fan, till the new 4xxx series came out, and I bought the 4870 .. loved it so much I bought another 4870x2 soon as it came out, Now my 4870 is just sitting here. I'm on DDR2 so I'm not sure if DDR3 would make a difference between the 2 ati vs nvidia. but I personally would just go with ati... for the DDR5 advantage that I've noticed using my giant screen. and Don't let the bad feedbacks of the new 4 series fool you. the GTX2 series are just as loud and just as hot, my gtx280 actually ran hotter than my hd4870

It all comes down to you. the gtx280 vs 4870, why did I go 4870? at the time my gtx280 was still selling for 600 bucks, so I sold it and to be honest, and "most" games I dont see much of a difference, we're not talking major fps decrease. So I was impressed by the 300 dollar video card (HD4870) and it's packing enough power for me.

I personally like your ATI build better, but with the 800mhz not the 1066 mhz, 1066mhz is actually just overclocked version of 800.
I'd change the tower how ever, that's just me, I'm more into quality feel and quiet sound with great cooling.
I'd change the mouse to a G7 or G9 logitech, I have that mouse but atm somethings wrong with it, I have to unplug and plug it back in during game play, annoys me ! G7 feels great, does not fee like a wireless at all. Accurate.. extremely accurate. G9 just because its new

well good luck to yah..

oh btw.

the new intel i7 will be coming out next week or so, So you should hold off till then, Prices should lower down.
Since i7 will be the new intels. for future proof ddr3 is better, but not really. The new i7 will be only working on x58 motherboards and up.
which is ddr3 ram also. different sockets as well, so everything you buy now will have to go poof, when you want to go upgrade to an i7

ATI. Crossfire 4870 probably costs less than a single GTX280 (it does in my country).

i would go with the Logitech G5 or the MX518, those are two very great mouses at a way better price. i'm not sure how you would feel about spending roughly 75$ on a G7. but then again, if you need wireless that much, then G7, if not, a MX518/G5 will suffice. TRUST ME, do NOT get the G9, it is a horrible mouse. i've had experience with it, and it sux to game w/that mouse. do yourself a favor.

i've got the G5 myself, never went back to anything else or any other brand.

if he's going to spend that much cash, I would go with the Core i7. For the price of the Q9550 and the 790i board he can have a i7 920 and a X58 and not change the other components. The 920 is clocked at 2.66 ghz and is 1 of the first 3 prcessors due out in 1 week along with the X58 motherboards from Asus, Gigabyte, Intel, MSI, and a few others.

the price increase due to switching to ddr3, x58 and i7 is definitely NOT worth the money you'd spend on a q9xxx + ddr2 + p45/x48. The performance increase in games is just too small to justify hundreds of dollars.

maybe in 6 months.

Looking at your Nvidia option, do you really need a monitor, mouse and speakers right now?

I might hold off on those upgrades to get the fastest main hardware (cpu,videocard etc) then save up more money and get the monitor, mouse and speakers later.

I would also wait a little while to see where the prices go with i7 coming out. You might want to get an i7 or maybe by then you could get a 9650 for the price of a 9550 now.

Why do people keep harping on the performance increase in games isn't that significant when it's been shown that the hendering factor for games is the gpus'. A few sites including this already showed that. It wasn't the cpu's that were the problem, it was the graphics cards that were the problem. Funny thing is, the 920 was keeping up and exceeding the QX9770 at times. Heck there is a game coming out next week that makes full use of a quad core in which the demo of that game is out now. Lost 4 Dead. The only differences between Penryn and Nehalem is that Nehalem is a quad mono die setup, has a built in imc and a few other tweeks and improved instruction set, and when set up right, nothing keeps up with it. You guys are always spouting about future proof, well guess what, it's coming out next week and it already runs on vista quite well. But this is just my opinion.

Well, my first question is do you actually intend to have a multi-GPU setup at some point? If not, avoid the nvidia chipset like the plauge, thats all its useful for, less OC headroom, more reported issues, and lots of $$. And even if the answer is yes, for multi-card setups, ATi FTW right now.

Okay guys ill wait =] i waited about a whole year to save up this money year and a half(im only 13) I worked mowning lawns and putting some in the bank and saving and im alost 14 old enough to get a real job! no one cares but yea..lol

i heard there will be a x58 rampage formula i will DEFINLTLY be getting that. I might just order the case rite now though since i know im not changing that. I wont order the video card cuz a new one can come out in a week without notice! the 4850 x2, 5870 =p Ill order the OS also

hehe yea but it was hard! i never thought i would EVER have this much money.

Get a Core i7 CPU and put it on a gold chain!

Go with the 1gb GDDR5 4870