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Hello

I am asking for serious help regarding rebuilding my current pc.

This is how it looks now :

E6750
2gb rab
8800gts 512
Enermax Liberty 620w

I am from the UK, Fist of i need a new motherboard. Is it worth getting a sli motherboard nd buy a second 8800gts 512 or buy crossfire motherboard nd get 2 4870? Or do nothing nd hold on to my 8800gts 512 nd wait for the new graphics card to come along.

First of which motherboard do you advice me to get? Budget is about £150-200 for a motherboard. THis is the motherboard i had in mind DFI Lanparty X38 or even the DFI Lanparty X48 ?

Shall i go for a Q6660? Or a better CPU? A Q9300 ? Is the difference between the 2 very noticable?

I thought about getting a new PSU if needed, how does this one sound? XION Supernova XON-800R14N 800W . I know the enermax liberty is an amazing PSU but am not sure if the 620w is beefy enough?

I would be very happy if some one could help.

Many thanks

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I say up your ram to 4 gigs if you have a 64 bit os, and just get a new vid card like a 4870 or a 260.What chipset were you thinking of getting?


Message edited by Cranky1970 on 11-11-2008 at 11:03:22 PM
Reply to Cranky1970

Well first off, what are your current issues?? Your system is a pretty good one, by most accounts.
* Please list in detail all of your specs (make/model/speeds).
* What problems are you having with your current setup??
* The 8800gts 512mb (g92) is a nice GPU, so I'm not sure why you would need another one or upgrade to newer GPU's, unless your on a very high resolution monitor??
* What resolution are you gaming on?
* The Enermax Liberty 620w is a decent PSU, so it should work fine for any single GPU out there. IIRC the Liberty has 36A on the 12v rails, 2 x 6pin PCI-e power connectors, and is around 80% efficient. All good qualities in a PSU these days.

Possible upgrades??
* If you want more performance for less, I'd consider OC'ing the e6750 to 3-3.4 gHz for more speed. Most decent RAM will easily handle the FSB speeds needed to do this OC.
* Your 2 gb's of DDR2 should be plenty (unless you have Vista 32bit) for Windows XP. If you want to have more RAM than I'd suggest getting Vista 64 bit OS. This will allow you to upgrade to >4 gb's of RAM and be able to fully utilize it.
* Depending on your resolutions needed, I'd consider the 4850 (minimal) to the 4870 (likely) GPU's. If you are on the high end of resolutions, I'd consider the 4850x2 or 4870x2, depending on budget.
* If your mobo isn't cutting it for you (not sure this is the case) than a good p45 based mobo should normally do. If your into extreme OC'ing (not sure you are) than the x38/x48 mobo's are the ticket. They also support X-fired GPU's (AMD's).


All of these suggestions are subjective to what you want to do or what your problems you currently are experiencing.

------------------------------ PSU Tiers
GPU Power
8800gtx w/e6600 OC'd will run on Antec 380w w/27A on 12v rail, PSU!!
Reply to lunyone

Hello and thanks for your replies :)

The motherboard i have at the moment is a very bad one, its one of these motherboards u buy with a new company computer, that does not allow OC whatsoever. So a new motherboard is a absolute must. So shall i opt for the p45 in my case?

I am currently using vista 32bit, so I will have to upgrade to 64 bit in order to optimize the 4gb?

I game on a 22'' monitor. 1680*1050 i believe?

All of the components are at stock speed, except for the 8800gts which i have OC'd slightly.

I was also considering a new audio card, which on is very good to get?

Reply to dostanio

Something like this ?

BIOSTAR TPower I45 LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard

Reply to dostanio

Any of these p45 based mobo's should suit you well:
Comparison of several p45 based mobo's

* You can drop in your e6750 if you like and OC it to 3-3.4 gHz pretty easily.
* Your OS probably isn't transferrable (guessing you have a Dell/HP/Compaq/Gateway pre-built system), so your going to need to buy an OS anyway, so Vista 64 bit is the way to go. This will allow you >4 gb's of RAM, if you really need more.
* The 8800gts should be fine with your resolution, unless you really want to upgrade it, than I'd consider at leat a 4870 GPU.
* I'd say 99% of current onboard sound is quite well. If your really picky about your audio, than I'd try the onboard audio first and if you don't like it, than upgrade to an audio card.
* Forgot to ask if you had an overal budget for this upgrade??

------------------------------ PSU Tiers
GPU Power
8800gtx w/e6600 OC'd will run on Antec 380w w/27A on 12v rail, PSU!!
Reply to lunyone

Thanks agian lunyone for ur efforts

My budget is about 200-300 pounds. However I am going to america this xmas, so i was thinking about getting my stuff from newegg?

Reply to dostanio

Ooh So if i get te p45 nd get a 4870 does the mobo support crossfire for future use?

Reply to dostanio

Will i need cooling for the CPU in order to OC it well?

Reply to dostanio

Yes it is worth getting two 4870s and a crossfire board, if you can afford it, altho you should also get a better PSU in that event as well. This is what I think you should do. Go get a 750i board, a second 8800GTS, a good 4 GB (2x2GB) set of DDR2 1066 from Corsair or Mushkin, and a Xigmatec Rifle Cooler with a back plate to over clock your CPU. Over clocking that CPU will provide you with a noticeable improvement, and should be more than enough for now and allow you to hold out on a CPU upgrade. Once the i7s become more available the prices on the Q9000 series CPUs will fall and you can move on one then.

Yes you should upgrade to 64-bit to make use of all your RAM, and that XION PSU may be more of a downgrade compared to your current PSU as far as stability and reliability are concerned.

Reply to megamanx00

^ thanks for the reply.

I have found this 750i,

EVGA 123-YW-E175-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 750i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard

What i could do is sell my 8800gts 512 for £100 and take that nd go to the USA which i will be goin neway in xmas, nd buy a 9800GTX maybe, for 3sli in future? Price of the motherboard could be as high as $250-300, so name something good so its futureproof.

Reply to dostanio

If your selling your 8800gts, than I'd just stick with a p45 based mobo for your given resolution. One 4870 can easily handle that resolution and it won't cost you a bundle compared to a dual SLI/tri SLI setup. The p45 based mobo's do support X-fire, but the second PCI-e slot is usually capped at 8x speed, not a big deal if you ask me. You'll have to pay about $75-125 more for a x38/x48 based mobo to get dual 16x PCI-e mobo. I don't think it's worth that since you could spend that $ on a 4850x2 GPU instead and not have to worry about having enough PCI-e power connectors on your PSU.

------------------------------ PSU Tiers
GPU Power
8800gtx w/e6600 OC'd will run on Antec 380w w/27A on 12v rail, PSU!!
Reply to lunyone

So as it stands.

ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - $120
SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit - $250


Is is a good sound card Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Sound Card Am more keen on getting a sound card for the best sound quality, because am thinking about getting very good speakers.

I also need a good gaming mouse?


Reply to dostanio

dostanio wrote :

Hello

I am asking for serious help regarding rebuilding my current pc.

This is how it looks now :

E6750
2gb rab
8800gts 512
Enermax Liberty 620w

I am from the UK, Fist of i need a new motherboard. Is it worth getting a sli motherboard nd buy a second 8800gts 512 or buy crossfire motherboard nd get 2 4870? Or do nothing nd hold on to my 8800gts 512 nd wait for the new graphics card to come along.

First of which motherboard do you advice me to get? Budget is about £150-200 for a motherboard. THis is the motherboard i had in mind DFI Lanparty X38 or even the DFI Lanparty X48 ?

Shall i go for a Q6660? Or a better CPU? A Q9300 ? Is the difference between the 2 very noticable?

I thought about getting a new PSU if needed, how does this one sound? XION Supernova XON-800R14N 800W . I know the enermax liberty is an amazing PSU but am not sure if the 620w is beefy enough?

I would be very happy if some one could help.

Many thanks


DFI X48 is great
Q9300 clock for clock is about 5% faster than the Q6600 more or less.
2 4870's you need more power I would get a good 800watt PSU.
The Xion looks pretty, I would look on jonney guru and hard ocp for reviews.
Currently and I hate to say this crossfire is better.
get a 9800GX2 and you will have a great video card.

Reply to bobbknight

Hello

This motherboard looks nice aswell,

MSI K9A2 Platinum AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX, is it any good?

Reply to dostanio

Forget my last message,

I like this one

EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard.
This i would sell my 8800gts 512 nd get a 9800GTX or a 9800GX2 to b able 2 go 3 sli.

Is there an equivalent mobo like this one but that will enable crossfire?

Reply to dostanio

Okay I think your getting a bit confused. Crossfire = 2 x AMD GPU's (4850's/4870's are example GPU's) and SLI = 2 x nVidia GPU's (8800gt/9800gt/8800gts/etc. are example GPU's).
Personally right now AMD GPU's are doing better than nVidia GPU's. If your really wanting a Crossfire setup than a x38/x48 mobo's are the ones to get. Any "SLI" capable mobo has an nVidia chipset on it (750i/780i/790i). If your bent on getting an SLI (nVidia GPU) setup than the 9800gx2 is an okay one to get, but you'll only need 1 PCI-e slot for it. That means you can just get a cheaper p45 based mobo instead of spending more $ on a full SLI/Crossfire mobo. It's up to you, but like I said before your better off with a p45 based (Crossfire capable) mobo. They are around $85-150 for them and will work just fine.

------------------------------ PSU Tiers
GPU Power
8800gtx w/e6600 OC'd will run on Antec 380w w/27A on 12v rail, PSU!!
Reply to lunyone
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