ATI 4670 Vs. ATI 3850

[zyzagy]

What is better the 4670 or 3850 for casual gaming?

 

[xc0mmiex]

on stats they are pretty equal.... the questions becomes which one can you get cheaper

 

[enaher]

What is better the 4670 or 3850 for casual gaming?

Because of the bandwidth the HD3850 performs a lot better at Higher res With out AA, other than that they perform on par, with the HD 4670 most of the time taking the lead, i use a HD4670 on my favorite PC no real gaming going on with it but not bad for the price performance you get, and requires no additional power enough for me to replace my HD 3850 :lol:, take the HD 4670 not the 1GB versions there just a waste cash

 

[radguy]

4670 almost always wins with AA enabled and runs on less power. Thats a win in my book unless you could find the 3850 for significantly less.

 

[Dekasav]

Performance-wise you might as well call them equal. The HD 4670 does AA better, without AA the HD 3850 does a little better. But the HD 4670 is newer, cooler, and takes less power, I'd spend up to $10 more on the HD 4670.

 

[dieseldre2k]

i'd go with the 4670. even if u can get the 3850 for $10 cheaper, the 4670 will pay for the difference by lowering ur electricity bill =P*


*edit note* i guess the "=P" isnt enough of an indication for some ppl...so here it is in a more obvious way for the slow ones: THIS STATEMENT IS A JOKE (altho its kinda true if u actually keep this card for 2+ years, but few ppl would do that)

 

[macer1]

if your PSU isn't a problem pickup which ever is cheaper

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/9987-ati-hd-4670-512mb-gddr3-video-card-review-16.html


yea that $ $0.46 savings per month is really worth it.



side note as for energy savings, do some research idiot.

based on $0.10120 per KWH *24 watts @ 180 hours per month = $0.46 savings per month

that's if that card runs a MAX LOAD every second your computer is on.

idle is even less difference in watt's.....

 

[njalterio]

if your PSU isn't a problem pickup which ever is cheaper

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/9987-ati-hd-4670-512mb-gddr3-video-card-review-16.html


yea that $ $0.46 savings per month is really worth it.



side note as for energy savings, do some research idiot.

based on $0.10120 per KWH *24 watts @ 180 hours per month = $0.46 savings per month

that's if that card runs a MAX LOAD every second your computer is on.

idle is even less difference in watt's.....

+1 for picking up whichever is cheaper. For gaming at this level you probably don't care if one does slightly better with AA anyways.

Actually the HD 4670 consumes 207 Watts under load while the 3850 uses 98 Watts
http://www.guru3d.com/article/ati-radeon-hd-4670-review/4
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/591/1/
You might want to make sure you have your facts straight before you call someone an idiot.

So one uses twice the electricity than the other. ($4 vs $2 a month at 180 hours)
Not a big deal, but maybe if you using a lot of these it is.

 

[xcess]

+1 for picking up whichever is cheaper. For gaming at this level you probably don't care if one does slightly better with AA anyways.

Actually the HD 4670 consumes 207 Watts under load while the 3850 uses 98 Watts
http://www.guru3d.com/article/ati-radeon-hd-4670-review/4
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/591/1/
You might want to make sure you have your facts straight before you call someone an idiot.

So one uses twice the electricity than the other. ($4 vs $2 a month at 180 hours)
Not a big deal, but maybe if you using a lot of these it is.

dude ! i am not the smartest person about these things as i would like but even i know that ur statements is completely wrong! ! ! ! ! ! !! ! lol 98 watts vs 207 u know why? did u read the reviews ? no u didn't ! ! ! read ppl these days!!

 

[StringCheesian]

Actually the HD 4670 consumes 207 Watts under load while the 3850 uses 98 Watts
http://www.guru3d.com/article/ati-radeon-hd-4670-review/4
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/591/1/
You might want to make sure you have your facts straight before you call someone an idiot.

You are comparing wattage of just of video card (98W for just the HD3850) with wattage for an entire system (207W for a HD4670 plus CPU, motherboard, etc...).

 

[cjl]

+1 for picking up whichever is cheaper. For gaming at this level you probably don't care if one does slightly better with AA anyways.

Actually the HD 4670 consumes 207 Watts under load while the 3850 uses 98 Watts
http://www.guru3d.com/article/ati-radeon-hd-4670-review/4
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/591/1/
You might want to make sure you have your facts straight before you call someone an idiot.

So one uses twice the electricity than the other. ($4 vs $2 a month at 180 hours)
Not a big deal, but maybe if you using a lot of these it is.

A PCI-E slot is rated to deliver at most 75 watts to the video card (with no other power connectors). The 4670 has no additional power connectors. Therefore, it uses less than 75 watts full load.

Simple.

Also note that the 3850 does have a power connector, indicating that the 3850 does need more than just the 75W that the pci-e slot delivers. This implies that the 3850 needs more power, not less, than the 4670.

 

[Son_ganon]

Which is better to get the 4850 or the 4870. I hear the 4870 is the better choice but will it run on my system. I have a dell inspirion 530 "not slim" Also I am making a upgrade in my psu to a 500 watt. So what do you think is better.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161243

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161248

 

[cjl]

The 4870 is definitely faster, though you should make sure that your system uses a standard ATX PSU before trying to upgrade it.

 

[Son_ganon]

This is the psu I am planning to get
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703016
So can I run this on my dell or what.

 

[cjl]

That one's definitely a standard ATX power supply. A good one, too. What I'm not sure of is whether your Dell uses a standard ATX power supply. If it doesn't, that one won't work.

 

[sabot00]

Some pre-built PC use the BTX form factor, there are others but other than ATX BTX is the next most common.

 

[Son_ganon]

well that psu is for dell and I read the reviews and someone said that it fit perfectly with there dell inspirion 540. Im a bit confused on what you said though.
Sorry Im new to this. XD I am more a software guy then hardware.

 

[njalterio]

A PCI-E slot is rated to deliver at most 75 watts to the video card (with no other power connectors). The 4670 has no additional power connectors. Therefore, it uses less than 75 watts full load.

Simple.

Also note that the 3850 does have a power connector, indicating that the 3850 does need more than just the 75W that the pci-e slot delivers. This implies that the 3850 needs more power, not less, than the 4670.

Sorry guys.....I didn't see that it said "system under load" and that included more than the graphics card. I was assuming there was a power connector as well. Thanks for the correction.

 

[critofur]

if your PSU isn't a problem pickup which ever is cheaper

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/9987-ati-hd-4670-512mb-gddr3-video-card-review-16.html

yea that $ $0.46 savings per month is really worth it.

side note as for energy savings, do some research idiot.
based on $0.10120 per KWH *24 watts @ 180 hours per month = $0.46 savings per month
that's if that card runs a MAX LOAD every second your computer is on.
idle is even less difference in watt's.....

My 3850 puts out so much heat that in warm Spring/Summer months I have to use my A/C significantly more.

My new system, which also has a lower power CPU and does not have a hot Raptor HD is substantially quieter and significantly cooler. I don't even notice that it's on, in my bedroom, when I go to sleep at night wheras the other system is a hot noisey beast.

So, I would say that yes, even if just the card is only 50 cents cheaper a month in electricity - it all adds up. And the A/C is expensive to run. And I don't know if I could put a monetary value on having a wonderfully quiet and cool PC, but it's sure worth something.

If I was going to buy a card today, I'd be psyched over the new choices - 5750 or 5770 for mid level budge / low power, or 5850 for high end kick ass performance yet STILL saving power over older high end cards, and, not so expensive on top of all that! What a great time to be in the video card market, just like back when the 8800GT just came out

 

[bzk]

I currently own both the 3850 (sapphire) and the 4670 (powercolor)
in 3dmark03 the 3850 wins, in 3dmark06 the 4560 wins.
In real workd gaming (like NFS undercover) the 3850 wins.
Also the 4670 has caused some weird windows environment issues (like delayed typing/ choppy window movement)
However i think the issues with the 4670 are all driver related, the problems still exist.

and at the end of the day the 3850 seems more enjoyable (although I did have one burn up on me and get sent in for a replacement)

 

[baboonxt]

I got sapphire 3850 256 for half price of 4670 1G. I 've noticed that 3850 run smoother 'til resolution 1440x900 4670 far better.
In my opinion only 3850 deliver better in Quality but fail in large texture size actually In mafia II 3850 had 20% over 4670
after I try both card I keep 3850 and sell 4670

 

[g00fysmiley]

its a wash performance on par slight power difference btu at full load 24/7/30 you might scrape a dollar difference a month hardly a factor imo

buy whichever is cheaper

 

[gfxnut]

No matter how much research i did it all came down to whats currently available, i wanted a 3850 but could'nt find one for sale unless i got it via ebay, then theres the worry of ending up with a dud! (See Below***) so im going for a HIS HD 4670 IceQ Native HDMI 1GB (128bit) DDR3 AGP £100 inc post and no matter how many forums and reviews i read, actual gameplay videos on youtube did it for me, more importantly if someones running AGP game rig then they'll be upgrading for brute force dx9 peformance

with a 4670 i can hang on to a great p4 based rig while i consider a whole nother beast when price vs power is golden leaving my pockets fuller for now while i rip through 50 - 100 games inc classics like fear quake 3 ut2004 bioshock etc at blazing framerates and still having decent performance fun with crysis ut3 gow

PS the only 3850's i found available are sapphires and i heard they are a bit of trouble where the HIS 4670 has mature drivers now and with less pwr consumption and quiet fan i guess that says it all

PPS there are 3850 powercolors out there but its a hassle bidding and u still could get a dud with low if no guarantee etc,
anyway glad i can get my rig up and running with kickass replacement over the BFG 7800gs OC
as the worst thing is having a top rig for its time that you wanna hold on to and having to settle for a pisspoor gfx card

*** BFG 7800gs OC halted after a year (second hand purchase C.E.X!!!)
in fact the only PC tec ive ever bought second hand was that card tut tut

 

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