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9800 GT 512 vs. 9600 GT 1024

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December 8, 2008 5:21:50 AM

I've been looking to upgrade my GeForce 8600 GTS 256mb card with a new card with more memory. I like to run everything at 1680x1050 and sometimes games struggle with just the 256mb, and I have to lower some of the settings. I don't know much about ATI cards but I would take them into consideration if you can suggest some. Otherwise, here is what I've been looking at: a GeForce 9800 GT 512 MB or possibly a GeForce 9600 GT 1024mb. Those are both decently priced and seem to do a good job. The 9600 GT 1024 seems to do like 3x as good as my card now (based on the FPS charts at my resolution). If the 9800 GT 512 is the same as the 8800 GT 512, it seems to perform just a little better than the 9600 1024mb, but not by much. I am just confused as to which card to get. Any suggestions would be helpful.

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December 8, 2008 5:27:39 AM

1GB VRAM is not alot of use for resolutions at or under 1680x1050 right now. Furthermore, both the 9600GT and 9800GT just aren't really fast enough to ever have any use for 1GB VRAM, because by the time you are at resolutions that demand it, the cards are just too slow to handle it.

In short: Get the 9800GT :) 
December 8, 2008 5:43:26 AM

Or you can try out an ATI HD 4850 or 9800GTX if you like nvidia card better. They will cost a little more but I'm sure their performance will make up for it.
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December 8, 2008 5:58:44 AM

Yeah I upgraded from a 8800gt 512 to a 1GB version and saw no difference even at 1920x1200 while playing Crysis. So between the two get the 9800gt. From my gathering the ati 4870 1GB card is the first to make good use of the memory.
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December 8, 2008 6:01:06 AM

PsyKhiqZero said:
Yeah I upgraded from a 8800gt 512 to a 1GB version and saw no difference even at 1920x1200 while playing Crysis. So between the two get the 9800gt. From my gathering the ati 4870 1GB card is the first to make good use of the memory.

It's good for CrossFire and SLI configurations too.
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December 8, 2008 6:21:41 AM

I'd go with the 9800GT, or if your budget allows, go for the ATI 4850.
December 8, 2008 6:39:05 AM

The HD4830 is an option too you know. It outperforms the 9800GT pretty much all the time and is in the same price range.

1GB VRAM is a waste. If you're playing games on a monitor that is big enough to use that much VRAM, then you have the wrong card.

I would say 1GB VRAM for Resolutions that are over 1920x1200.
December 8, 2008 7:01:27 AM

8800GT is the same as the 9800GT except for some 55nm 9800GT's. 9800GT's run cooler than 4830's and 4850's and can therefore overclock much further than the 4830's and 4850's, resulting in more performance for your dollar. ^.^
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December 8, 2008 7:26:55 AM

4830s and 4850s run perfectly cool if you crank the fan up. They have a perfectly adequate cooler, and the reason they run so hot is because they're tuned to run quiet. In addition, even an overclocked GT would have a hard time keeping up with a 4850, seeing as the 4850 keeps up with (and in fact beats) a 9800GTX, which is not only clocked higher than an 8800/9800GT, but has more stream processors as well.

Also, cooler running in no way indicates extra headroom for overclocking. Usually, from what I've found, overclocking is limited by other things than just cooling.
December 8, 2008 7:52:32 AM

^fair enough

i agree with graphics overclocking being limited by more than temps... my 50% oc'd (already factory oc'd) Palit 7600GS Sonic with a plastic looking/feeling heatsink (:lol: ) had like 60 C temps and couldn't oc much more than 50-60%... treid to get a vmod but no luck, it just wasn't a popular enough card for someone to get a vmod for it lol
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December 8, 2008 8:12:44 AM

Yep - I've been in that situation before. I'm not quite brave enough for a voltmod, but I've been stuck at barely any overclock with perfectly cool temps.
December 8, 2008 8:34:08 AM

well if there was a voltmod i would be all over it! WR percentage wise for graphics overclocking!
December 8, 2008 1:19:28 PM

Thanks for the help. After seeing your suggestions for ATI cards, I looked them up a bit I read that the "Radeon HD 4830 is a crippled 4850" and it performs about as well as the GeForce 9800 GT 512 I was looking into. But, the 4850 isn't much more in price, as compared to the next step up in nVidia, and, as you said, is often outperformed or is really close to the 4850. So, I'll definitely think about getting the HD 4850. Looks like it's in a class by itself, between the high and low nVidia's. If I can't swing the extra like $50, which shouldn't be a problem I wouldn't think, I'd go for the 9800 GT.

Here's just something I'm wondering: why are 8800 GT 512's more expensive than the 9800 GT 512's? From what I've found, there is like a $50 difference or more between the two cards, and they are supposedly almost identical.
December 8, 2008 3:45:20 PM

Reason for the price difference? Uninformed people. They're the same (for all practical purposes).
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December 8, 2008 4:16:51 PM

Yep - the closest thing Nvidia has to the 4850 is the 9800GTX. They tend to run a bit more expensive than the 4850 though, and perform slightly below.
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December 8, 2008 8:31:35 PM

Isaac_thegamer said:
Here's just something I'm wondering: why are 8800 GT 512's more expensive than the 9800 GT 512's? From what I've found, there is like a $50 difference or more between the two cards, and they are supposedly almost identical.

55nm 9800GTs are cheaper to manufacture but probably not mby that much. My guess is that the price in the channels has dropped and the 8800GTs are old stock that will remain highly priced so that retailers don't lose money on them. Remember, the 9800GT has a '9' so it MUST be better :sarcastic:  , that is why the 8800GTs aren't selling.
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