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Which is better. Which can Fit in a dell inspiron 530. Is 500 watts all I need for both and here is my set up.
"I am going to upgrade the psu, the ram to 6gb and the cpu too a q9300."

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personally i would go with the 4870, but the cards are virtually equal

the rest of your upgrades are unecessary, u will never use all the power given to you by a q9300, u'ld do better to stick with something like the e8400

u'll never use more than 4 gb ram

i'ld suggest at least a 600 watt power supply

really, if you're planning on upgrading a dell inspiron 550 to that extent you're insane, the chipset is going to seriously affect your performance, u might as well build a new computer or at least replace the mobo w/ something like the asus p5e deluxe

Reply to jlannon

I am actaully gonna build a computer. But I am gonna get it by parts. SO I out this stuff on my dell then later on get a new mother board and casing. But if not the q9300 how bout the q6600. Is that a better deal.
p.s Its a dell 530 its not the slim if anyone is gonna ask.
So If the cards are equal I am gonna go with the 4870. But then again the gtx does have a nice deal and is a bit cheaper. But I am worried about the size. Will it ever fit inside of my computer.

Reply to Son_ganon

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817703016

Thats the psu I am going to get.

P.s when you say my chipset will effect my performance how so? But anyway I am gonna get a new mobo and stuff later on. This will only last for like 3 months top.

"resolution @ 1680 x 1050"

Reply to Son_ganon
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102810
189.99 after rebate 4870 O.o
go with 4870 and save the extra money for christmas gift ect.


Message edited by kelfen on 12-11-2008 at 02:49:00 AM
Reply to kelfen
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I am reasonably sure the 260 will not fit...the interior of the Dell 530 case is just too short, front to back. This is unfortunate because it would run cooler in your case if it did fit. The 4870 may fit, but you would need to measure the distance from the interior rear of the case to the front hard drive cage. If it will fit, expect the interior case temperatures to increase, even though the card uses an exterior exhaust. I know the following 4850s will fit and work off most name brand power supplies in the 500 watt range.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814261027

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102770

Roughly between the 4850 and the 4870, depending on the resolution, there is one nvidia card that may fit (auxilary PCIe plug is on top of card rather than at the rear), isn't all that power hungry and runs cool.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130416

Good luck and let us know what you decide on.

Reply to ejay

well its between this
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or this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102810

Also reviews say this card is long. But The dell has a lot of room. "in my opinion. I mean atleast 12 inches. around there. So Ill be able to fit it. Well PLease tell me what you guys think. Which is the better buy. I am going with what is better in performance not price. But these are the two cards.

P.s: Thank you guys and everyone on toms hardware. This site has helped me out a lot. I would be lost in choosing a card if it wasn't for you guys and everyone else. If I had a cookie I would give you guys one.
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Reply to Son_ganon

I don't think the extra boost in performance is worth spending the extra $40 on the HIS card. Just stick with the sapphire card for $189. The only downside to the sapphire is the fan, which blows air both out, and back into the case. but if you have an exhaust fan somewhere near the card, then it shouldn't make too much of a difference. If you don't, then just make sure when u get your new case/mobo make sure you have a couple 120mm exhaust/intake fans.

Good luck!

Reply to curryj02
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sapphire is the better company

a better chipset means better bus speeds, if ur gonna upgrade the whole computer then go for whatever processor u think u'll need

when u do get a mobo, go for something w/ an intel x48 chipset

Reply to jlannon

I am fairly sure the dell mobo will not allow the Q9300 upgrade unless it already has a Q 9 series on board.

That Dell specific bios does not allow the changes you need to upgrade the cpu. Graphics card, yes, as long as it has a 500 watt psu. The dell psu's are generally very conservantly rated.

I have 2 260's SLI'd and like them very much.

Careful with a non rear exhaust gpu, as the 530 has very little way to remove heat from inside the case, as the cpu and nb have a ducted air flow on the 2 running at the office.

Reply to Granite3

ok Ill go with the cheaper card. But for my cpu. Should I stick with mine for now and when I get a new mobo, get the q9300 or should I get the q6600 and just use that for my new pc.
Will my cpu be good enough for a while.

Reply to Son_ganon
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for the time being i think it'll be fine, up to u really, but w/ the new i7 cpus the core 2 will go down in price soon

Reply to jlannon

Well I am not sure of that. They already dropped the price on them. The prices will not change this time around. But Ill just get the core 2 quad 9300 when I get my mobo.

Reply to Son_ganon
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that doesnt support the core 2 series, only the i7 series, different pin structure

also its ddr3, way more expensive

as i said before, the x48 chipset is ur best bet unless ur gonna go w/ nvidia

Reply to jlannon

I know I am gonna get the intel i7

Reply to Son_ganon

The system is going to max out somewhere below 300 watts. Suggesting that 500 watts is not enough is insane.

Reply to daskrabbe

yeah I am gonna get a higher psu. Looking at a few. not sure how much is 650 good enough.

Reply to Son_ganon

Not exactly the reaction I was hoping for. :)

Reply to daskrabbe

lol. What were you expecting. Also I found a real nice case. You guys like
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] =A406-1101

and I found a other one too.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] =TC3J-2383

Reply to Son_ganon
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nzxt does make some really nice cases, i recently bought a raidmax smilodon

Reply to jlannon

lol cool. I decided that I am not gonna bother to but my card in my dell. Ill buy it now and wait. I waited this long, and I can wait for a extra month. Im gonna add some ddr3 mem 4gb. But it is a lot of money. lol.

Reply to Son_ganon
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yeah it is, if i upgrade within the next month im going for an amd phenom 9950 and a radeon hd 4870 w/ 4 gb ddr2, i dont have the cash for the new intels

Reply to jlannon

lol. Well the ram is the last thing I am getting. hopefully the price drops a bit. Its just with the new mobo and i7 ddr3 is needed lol

Reply to Son_ganon

Son_ganon wrote :

lol. What were you expecting.



Well, I said that 500 watts was more than enough and you reply by asking if 650 watts is enough.


Message edited by daskrabbe on 12-12-2008 at 12:58:16 PM
Reply to daskrabbe

oo lol.But I feel safer with the 650 since I am gonna upgrade stuff in the future. Like more hard drives and so on. Also I will crossfire.

Reply to Son_ganon
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To the OP. If you are still on the market for a GTX 260 below is a great deal if you don't mind an MSI card. $185 shipped to your door.

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Reply to m3d

Not sure if a 4870 will fit its very long. But if you make sure it will fit its a great card.

Reply to kjohnson1

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] =A406-1101

in the comments a kid said the 4870 1gb fit. So Mine will fit. Since I am getting this case.
But yes, It is a very big card

Reply to Son_ganon

Its confirmed just bought the card this second. Now waiting for it. But now I need the rest of the computer... XD

Reply to Son_ganon
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Sorry I missed this post. Check out the following link. It should help you decide.

http://techgage.com/article/ati_hd [...] 216_896mb/

The link is for the slightly higher GTX 260 216 and HD 4870 1Gb but the minimal cost involved is well well worth it.

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Reply to kkkk1

Son_ganon wrote :

lol. What were you expecting. Also I found a real nice case. You guys like
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] =A406-1101

and I found a other one too.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] =TC3J-2383


Personally, I am absolutely sick of Blue LEDs. I recommend you get something more exotic, like green or red. Anything but blue.

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Reply to DarthPiggie

jlannon wrote :

yeah it is, if i upgrade within the next month im going for an amd phenom 9950 and a radeon hd 4870 w/ 4 gb ddr2, i dont have the cash for the new intels


if you're going for AMD, then wait for the Phenom II, it performs noticeaebly better, and has the added bonus of overclocking to 4ghz on air. check it out for yourself.

http://www.gameware.ir/phenom2/benchmarks/

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Reply to DarthPiggie
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4870 > 260

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ATI 4850 oc'd 680/1158 with aftermarket Zalman
Asus P5Q Pro mobo
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Reply to werxen

not with the new 180 forceware drivers. Evident here: http://techgage.com/article/ati_hd [...] 16_896mb/7

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Reply to DarthPiggie

Hey son_ganon... I was wondering which card you ended up getting, and if it fit. I also have an Inspiron 530, and when I plopped in a 8800GTS, it barely fit due to wire connections that stick out where the hard drive and CD-DVD-ROM plug into the motherboard. This card is 9 inches long, and it seems that it only fits because to its shape and that a block-ended card (not rounded near the end around the fan) of the same length would not fit.,. Nor would a similar card that is half an inch (4870) or an inch and a half (gtx 260) longer? Does anyone know of a solution to getting a larger card to fit over where connections are made to the motherboard without having to replace the motherboard? Other than that, there seems to be plenty of room, lengthwise. The older GTX 260 is a Frys weekly special for about 150 dollars after rebate, and I'm really want to get one if I can get some help getting it to fit...

Thanks

Reply to greglouganis

Well guys I bought my system. I already got the case and psu. my other stuff coming today. Here is the stuff I bought.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] 4&csid=_23

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] wer%20Case

I got the msi platinum mobo with the i7 920 cpu, it was a combo on new egg but the combo is gone now
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148335

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231190


I actually got the psu for 160. lol so It was a good deal


Message edited by Son_ganon on 03-10-2009 at 11:01:12 PM
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