I'm getting ready to build a rig based around the Q9550. I plan on OC'ing. I'm going to be gaming, watching HD content, web browsing, and recording music. I'm relatively new to building rigs, but through this board and countless well-written articles I feel as though I'm up to snuff enough to make 'sound' decisions.
As a guitarist, I'm constantly on the quest for MY perfect tone. Between speaker choices, amp choices, circuitry, string brands, necks length, etc. There are a number of variables that go into making my 'perfect' music rig. Let's say someone takes my specs and switches out a few things. Sure, I may have a trained enough ear to notice the differences, but at the end of the day the general music population probably wouldn't be able to tell a damn bit of difference.
Reading benchmarks, I find myself saying, "Holy ****. X processor does this WAY better then Z processor! I MUST GET IT!". Then I'll read on a find out that while it does one thing way better than the other, it falls behind somewhere else. Then I'm back to square one wondering where I should go.
Now, I'm generalizing quite a bit and obviously not entirely getting into what I'm looking for in a computer. I realize that I might be paying too much attention to benchmarks and the like. What I want to know, however, is what you can truly discern as a difference in performance between chips without a benchmark. Is it simply speed? If that's all it comes down to, I don't mind waiting for my 9550 vs. waiting for an i7. Is it stuttering/choppiness? If an 9550 rig and an i7 based rig -- both built similarly with ram and a GTX 260 for example -- were pitted WITHOUT benchmarks, is 9550 deemed unplayable to a new computer user if they were playing, say, COD4 with relatively high settings? Speed I can deal with. Choppiness, stuttering, freezing due to lack of power, that I would absolutely hate.
My goal isn't to start a pointless debate. These questions I used in my example may seem dumb as I come from console gaming and minor computer experience. I just see similarities between first-time computer building and building a music rig.
I came on these boards to find the answer to this exact question. So many sites tell us how fast the benchmark is for new Phenom II or the Q9550. Does any of it matter? Could the author of one of these benchmark articles sit down at an unknown PC, run real-world applications (i.e. Not a benchmark, but games and functional software) and be able to tell within 3 guess what kind of processor was in the PC? Not the model, but quad-core, dual-core, 3Ghz OC'd to the max or a stock i7?
We can argue all day about if we should get a i7 or a Phenom II, but once I throw out the box, how would I be able to tell? Does 'Faster' mean 20FPS or .3 seconds longer in a video decoding app?
At this point if you have any idea what does what and you were doing a lot of mulitmedia work on said unknown CPU pc then possibly, as relating to i7. Meaning if it zipped along very fast then its possible your dealing with the i7 rig. Gaming wise, highly doubt you'd be able to tell the difference.
Message edited by sdf on 02-13-2009 at 01:09:33 AM
Really depends on what you plan to do with your PC. Games, for the most part really do not tax a system. Photoshop CS4, or a high end CAD system, or any video or music decoding or encoding will really stress the system.
I think the reiterated interpretation shellmagnet posted sums up what I was trying to ask/say.
For example, in guitar forums, the less educated simpletons fight over who plays notes the fastest. They actually have programs to determine how fast what guitarist plays when they are trying to play at their top speed. Some play 22 NPS at 220bpm, while the next batch plays 21 NPS at 220BPM. So the fanboys come out crying, "*My favorite guitarist plays 1NPS faster, your guitarist is a looooooser! You're pathetic, go die you piece of", and so on.
What's funny is. YOU CAN'T f'in tell!!! That's not something you can pick out by ear and if it weren't for the programs allowing people to calculate how fast the guitarist is playing, you'd NEVER know the difference.
I think I'm starting to answer my own question, however. Unless a computer user REALLY uses high end rendering programs, music decoders, graphics programs, bla bla bla then it's just really a bragging right.**
*That example is extreme but unfortunately guitar forums really do have quite a few Darwinian candidates. **Feel free to correct me. While I'm STILL trying to ask a question, my statements are truly based off of limited experience and technical know how.
Message edited by TheGuitarist on 02-13-2009 at 04:02:59 AM
LOL. Sorry if my posts came across as a little rash.
I'm at the point with computers where all new thoughts and discoveries are quite profound to me yet are more like a passing thought to the more experienced.
My apologies.
Message edited by TheGuitarist on 02-13-2009 at 04:18:57 AM
I think anyone who takes their hobby too seriously turns into a darwinian candidate. Next time you post on a guitar forum change your sig to 'Your favorite band sucks.'
Thanks for the responses. As someone who plays games it helps to know what's important and what's not. Identifying bottlenecks is often tough, and everytime I upgrade something I'm worried I'm going to spend a few hundred and not see a difference because games don't care about quad-core or I need more RAM not more CPU, or whatever.
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