theres a huge price difference between them so for gaming would it be better to invest in the phenom and more expensive graphics card or go with the Intel option
Whichever net you better performance at lowest cost?
yer best price for perfprmance
PHENOM II 940 would be the better option if you just want it for gaming,
Its performance is better when it comes to gaming even though the
Intel core i7 920 would be alot better at other tasks,
BUT !! this is only if you are going to use a single graphics card,
if you plan to use 2 graphics cards in say sli for instance then the Intel core i7 920 will give you the better performance, strange as it maybe, but without going into to much detail the i7 920 takes better advantage of multi GPU set ups,
also the price of the motherboard and Ram would work out alot cheaper if you go for the PHENOM option, which then gives you more money to spend on a better Graphics card.
Now lets wait to see who disagrees with me LOL.
lol thanks i think that maybe the case and i have been looking at Iver 2x 4850 2gb for the i7 or the ATi single GPU beast for the phenom you put me between a hard place and a rock lol
I have seem benchies around that shows the Core i7 isn't better with mukltiple GPUs
| ben BOys wrote : theres a huge price difference between them so for gaming would it be better to invest in the phenom and more expensive graphics card or go with the Intel option |
The AMD is not better for gaming just take a look on the home page here and there is an article on the I7 920 vs the AMD. The I7 wins every test and smacks the AMD in gaming!!!!!
oh yeah and the I7 in the absolute best for muti GPU, how do I know, I have one.
ya guys the phenom doesnt even touch the i7 in gaming where are you getting that info from?
actually im sorry thats not entirely true. Basically i did some searching and ya it performs well but i still think the duo is king of gaming still... games arent using more than 2 cores yet so the better answer is solely for gaming go c2d.
Well he was only asking about the i7 920 & Phenom II 940 which that is why I only gave my opinon on them 2 CPUs, and I do clearly state that the i7 920 would be better if it was to use a multi GPU set up instead of a single GPU, but for a single GPU then the AMD will prob be better, if you check the new review chad_69 then you will find toms hardware did a new test comparing the i7 920 against the AMD II 940 & AMD II X3 720 and for gaming the results seemed to favour the AMD II.
And yes some of the C2D are still top of the shop for gaming as most games still only use 2 cores, but the i7s & Amd IIs will be more future proof,
| lashton wrote : I have seem benchies around that shows the Core i7 isn't better with mukltiple GPUs |
please feel free to share with us. i have heard this maybe one or two other times but no sources cited which makes me highly doubt the claim.
| jason73 wrote : PHENOM II 940 would be the better option if you just want it for gaming,
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+1
You are all on crack the I-7 spanks AMD in EVERY benchmark. Why do you think Toms harware had the review posted on the home page...Because of people like us desputing this. #1 Look on the home page and #2 look at the a** kicking the I-7 gives the AMD!!!!
Thermaltake Spedo Advance Full Tower w/8 fans
Asus PT6 Mobo
1200W Thermaltake PSU
Core I-7 940 @ 3.4ghz
Cooler Master V8 CPU Cooler
6GB Kingston Hyper X Memory @ 1600mhz
2X 500 Seagate Barracuda's in Raid 0
Sapphire 4870 X2 2GB Oc'd
SB Xtreme Gamer X-FI Sound Card
| chad_69 wrote : You are all on crack the I-7 spanks AMD in EVERY benchmark. Why do you think Toms harware had the review posted on the home page...Because of people like us desputing this. #1 Look on the home page and #2 look at the a** kicking the I-7 gives the AMD!!!!
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lol... good lord. the i7 only beats the phenom when its overclocked - way to know your processor well dude.
heres the real deal regarding phenoms vs. i7
the phenom 2 pwns the i7 stock vs. stock in gaming and what not. these are REAL benchmarks not intel fanboy numbers hyped up. however, when the i7 is overclocked it comes ahead of the phenom in virtually every game (except a few ie: supreme commander as to why, i have no friggin clue) now that being said, BOTH are equally competitive and BOTH can handle sli / crossfire appropriately. they are BOTH great chips!
| jimbo75 wrote : Time to look again mby? This time look a little further afield than anandtech who have forever been skewing their benchmarks in favour of intel?
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I think you need to look again spanky, you cant bas your whole absis on one game and did you actually read the article's you posted. I-7 spanked the AMd w/ the exception of far cry. Woooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!
Oh yeah.. and it takes AMD best and fastest chip to take on the low end 920 I-7...you have no clout.....
"AMD's best and fastest chip" costs $220. Intels costs over a thousand. Cut the fanboyism.
try this as well..... http://www.pcauthority.com.au/Feat [...] low.aspx/6
forget the last post sen th wrong link
[quotemsg=1907707,20,357472]"AMD's best and fastest chip" costs $220. Intels costs over a thousand. Cut the fanboyism.[/quotemsg
Do your homework newbie http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115202
apples to apples - you can only compare AMD's best with Intel's low end i7-920 which cost's $285 because they are close in performance. This is "You get what you pay for situation"!
Oh yeah!! Does AMD platform support tripple channel memory??? oh yeah thats right, it does not!!!
http://www.overclockers.com/index. [...] le&id=4319
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Chad, triple channel memory means squat if you're only using it for gaming. That's why I don't see why would anyone jump for Core i7, unless they're filthy rich with expendable income, or that they actually use it for CPU-intensive programs.
Oh and btw, stop spamming. If you have more to say, use the "edit" button.
sheesh.
some of you guys are a trip. the most knowledgeable and well armed with fact AMD fans around here (jdj comes to mind) wont go where some of you are going in your bantering. are the Phenom2's great CPU's? no doubt! Price/performance? right there with the Core2's. More powerful than the i7's? get a grip on reality. if you have the money for an i7 build, you aren't messing with a single video card with intent not to add another. the i7 is a rock star in multi-gpu and not exactly "blown away" single card performance. as a matter of fact, the same lumps it takes in single card gaming benchmarks, the i7 also likely loses to the EOL Q6600. bottom line is P2 great value, great performance in the league of the Yorkfields. i7 is a workstation/ heavy lifting CPU that "can" game but not its strongest suit unless in a multi-gpu environment. want a single card setup, go P2 or Core2, want a multi-gpu go with the best scaling available (i7).
* maybe a mod should start locking some of these repeat threads and let the bantering continue on existing threads that already have all the rants built in.
| jimbo75 wrote :
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EDIT: Almost forgot to add. Jimbo, the Phenom X4 FX that you mentioned, is that FX-82?
Ok chad_69 you seem to have a nice pc from what I can see, Im sure it works well for you, but ben BOys started this topic and we have to think what was best for hes needs and I think the vote went 8 to 2 in favour of Amd II 940 from what I can see, so hopefully he will have seen this and used his common sence and saved him self some money,
And yomamafor love the picture lol
Price/Performance? I'd say in between I7 940 and 920, for the 940 BE. For a 720 BE? there isn't really an Intel chipset to compare it to.
Go for a AMD 940 and a good water cooling System, that's probably the best thing to do with a budget for cpu and cooling around your level.
Here is the truth:
I7 is the best in every area but is close with the Phenoms with a single GPU, but still clocked 400mhz less. No matter what you do or what you want to do the truth is that I7 is FASTER!
However... I7 is not MUCH faster. Going by price/performance I7 still does not make much sense. A good C2Q or Phenom 2 can do 90%+ the same as I7 in real world tasks. Add the fact that the saved money could net you a better monitor, better GPU(s), and god forbid you buy a decent dedicated sound card and a decent receiver+loud speaker setup so things sound good instead of crap PC speakers!
For gamers and everyone else except professionals that can benefit from I7, very very few people, I7 is not the best choice. Even if you don't game going from a 6-bit to an 8-bit panel monitor can be extremely rewarding.
For all those with I7, I am NOT knocking I7 just stating that for those who do not want the best (enthusiasts) and those who do not just WANT I7 for the sake of having it then it is not the wisest choice many times. For the record I plan on buying an I7 system just for the fun of it and I do nto regret that decision though I admit that if I were building a system right now then it would not be my best choice.
^ +1
Ok. Consensus established. Move on.
| The_Blood_Raven wrote : Here is the truth:
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we do not agree much but when we do i have a feeling nobody can touch us. +1.
why no one says anything to jdj when he post 4 or 5 consecutive posts?
| BadTrip wrote : why no one says anything to jdj when he post 4 or 5 consecutive posts? |
Probably because JDJ doesn't annoy the crap out of everybody when he posts
. I think even the most pro-Intel posters got annoyed with the Chad's "You is all on crak!" posts.
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