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November 24, 2008 4:12:11 AM

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16 ghz might overclock to insane ****
4gb DDr2 OCZ reaper ram PC2-6400
Nvidia Geforce GTX 260 896mb 700mhz
RAIDMAX Sagitta 2 gaming mid tower case
some motherboard lol
thats pretty much it

would you consider this a good gaming setup being able to play every game (yes Crysis too) out there 30fps+ on average?
November 24, 2008 4:30:42 AM

Well, depends on your resolution, but it should do a magnificent job on 1680x1050, and I'd expect 30fps+ on everything at 1900xwhatever. So, yeah, good PC.

Don't skimp out on your PSU though!!!!
November 24, 2008 4:57:47 AM

Everybody has their own way of doing things,fr' instance when I build a computer I usually start with the video card and the best cpu for it,now here's where it gets tricky,next comes the mobo and the ram,whatever mobo is chosen one needs to get the best possible ram,,and this is the tricky part,most manfu's have a QVL list of some kind or another but the kicker is,,they cannot possibly test every brand of ram there is..
In my case I bought the recommended ram for my mobo and ,lo ! and behold!!, the board did not like it at all,fortunately I had another brand,not even on the QVL list either,and it works like a charm,,so when you decide on a mobo if you are not completely sure,check with the users here at Tom's before you commit yourself,who knows you might be pleasently surprised..
One thing is that ram of yours 2x2 or 4x1,consider 2x2 ,as you will get better results,and can add more ,if need be ,and, is easier to resell..
AND most importantly do not skimp on the psu,you'll be sorry if you do..
Anyhow your setup looks good,,so far :) 
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November 24, 2008 5:37:54 AM

My psu is a 50 dollar 550W one
I don't think it's bad becade I've been using it for about 10 months and not a single problem
My motherboard is a gigabyte, I don't remener the model I'm getting
It supports 800mhz and 1066mhz ram
I'm getting 800mhz, I don't think it will make abig differences

November 24, 2008 6:37:17 AM

Yes, that will be a decent gaming machine.
I would recommend switching the GTX 260 for either a 4870 or GTX 260 Core 216.
Prices should be similar for all three and the latter will give you a good performance boost.
Depending on you resolution, you should have no issues with any current games with any of these cards.

A $50 550w PSU may be taking a risk.
Do you know who makes it and the +12v amperage by any chance?
If it is a low end unit, odds are it will never be able to output it's rated amount of power.

Good call with the RAM.
You will see no real world performance increase with DDR2 1066Mhz RAM over the much cheaper DDR2 800Mhz.
November 24, 2008 8:31:32 AM

2fps better with the core 216? really, is it worth the money? i don't think so.
November 24, 2008 11:21:07 AM

550W PSU is a red flag when reading what you have. That is on the edge of being good enough to handle the current system setup you have. To check the amperage of the 12 volt rail by googling your psu or by reading the label ussualy posted on the side. I think its 38amps or 40amps for the GTX 260? So you will need to have the two 12 volt rails add up past 38amps.

A lot of people try to skim on the PSU, and get burned by it after a short while. Not all psu's are created equal!!!
a b 4 Gaming
November 24, 2008 11:56:56 AM

To be more correct, The GTX 260 draws just shy of 11.4(about 136watts) amps in FULL load conditions.

Ratings on websites and video card boxes are also to take into consideration and lower end psu's and are for the FULL SYSTEM

Please post your PSU maker and model so we may see how good it is. Not all psu's are created equally. For a good PSU it must be able to channel a large portion of its total power into its 12 volt rail(s) while a cheap one has all its power on the 3.3 and 5 volt rails.

My system hardly ever uses more then 350 watts at the wall(this does not take into consideration the power loss from turning household power into computer power). So a good 550 watt psu will run my system with ease.

My other system with a 8800GTX(similar power use to a GTX 260) has been happily running on a 430 watt psu(the dreaded Smart Power 2.0) for a long time now.

Proved the psu is not made by ultra\apex or some other company that is not too good at lower wattage, the system will be a good gaming machine.
November 24, 2008 12:50:47 PM

My friend has almost the exact same spec as you listed:

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16
4gb DDr2 OCZ reaper ram PC2-6400
Nvidia Geforce GTX 260 896mb 700mhz
+
Corsair 650w
GA P45

And no you will NOT be able to play crysis at 1680x1050 at 30fps!
You are gonna need to oc the cpu and get a 280 or similar to do that.
November 24, 2008 1:09:50 PM

I wouldn't run that system on a $50 PSU, it's the most important part of your computer. Look at the amps going through the 12V rail like someone else mentioned, and then compare that to what the 260 requires. Also consider that the CPU runs off the 12V rail as well, and if you're overclocking then IMO you're rolling the dice on frying everything in the box!
a b 4 Gaming
November 24, 2008 1:13:56 PM

Antec EA650 650W is a $50 PSU(including shipping) that is more than capable of running that setup.
November 24, 2008 9:02:01 PM

ive already been running my GTX 260 with The current PSU i have for two months with no problems!!!
it runs fine

my current system is:
AMD Athlon 64 x2 5200+ 2.6ghz missing a transistor because im an idiot
2gb DDR 2 200mhz ram (YES ITS 200 MHZ ****) PC 4100 or something lol
GTX 260
550W powersupply
some crap motherboard judging by the RAM lol

BTW: IM PLANNING TO RUN GAMES AT 1440X900 LOL!
November 24, 2008 9:11:51 PM

your CPU-RAM is the bottleneck. your first post seem to be nice. But dont be cheap on MOBO. a Good p45 chipset or SLI mobo if your that kind of guy. At my opinion a 200$ mobo is the minimum. its the BASE of a CPU whit the PSU.
November 24, 2008 10:33:57 PM

My psu is a optimax titan power atx-550ps
My mothetboard that im gonna get is a 120 dollar one.
No sli and it had great ratings on newegg ppl said its an awesome oc-er
Most ppl had no cons with it

Sli has proved to be a bad upgrade in the past so no

November 24, 2008 11:47:41 PM

its Up to you ! My last rig and first one was with a 8600GTS scored a big 5000pts on 3dmark06 ! awesome .... after buying a new one in the past for more then half the price of the first one, my 3dmark06 jumped to 9500 pts.

Now with one 9800gtx im 14500. but the sli wont give me twice in benchmark, ill be happy if im near 20k. but in game, whit HI RES. sli have proven its benefit.
November 25, 2008 12:45:52 AM

I found out that my psu is 23A at 12v, so im getting a 100 dollar one lol
a b 4 Gaming
November 25, 2008 12:57:31 AM

That would cut it a little close.

Good call.

Getting about 2x what you need will almost always give you the best power efficiency thereby saving power.
November 25, 2008 11:34:49 AM

+1 nuke
November 26, 2008 2:14:57 AM

Ok i bought it
Upgrades:
Gigabyte p35-ds3l. $105
E8500 cpu. $230
Raid max sagitta 2 case black/black $99
Coolermaster realpower 550w. $105
Pc6400 800mhz ram 4gb. $56.

Yea so i dident get ocz reaper ram becase i wanted a good power supply
Did i make the right choice!?!
November 26, 2008 6:57:42 AM

Generally speaking, Coolermaster PSU's are of pretty low quality.
They have, however, been making an effort recently to make higher quality units.
At least from the specs, your chosen unit seems to be one of their best offerings.
That is not to say that you could have a better PSU for less.
If your order has not already shipped, I would recommend switching it out for one of these higher quality, and cheaper, PSU's:

PC Power & Cooling Silencer 500w: $39.99 after MIR
Antec Earth Watts 650w: $49.99
Corsair 650TX: $69.99 after MIR

Everything else looks pretty good.
I do have one issue regarding your motherboard, though.
Yes, the P35-DS3L is a good motherboard and a great overclocker but it is also based on a last gen chipset.
For about the same price, you could have a newer P45 based motherboard.
This would give you the added benifits of PCIe 2.0, lower power consumption, a newer ICH10(R) southbridge and even higher overclocks.
Still assuming you can change your order, take a look at the ASUS P5Q Pro, $99.99 after MIR, or the Gigabyte EP45-UD3P, $116.99 after MIR.

In any case, even without any changes you will have a screaming machine!
Enjoy your new build and have fun getting an insane overclock out of it!
November 26, 2008 8:01:01 AM

Quote:
550W PSU is a red flag when reading what you have. That is on the edge of being good enough to handle the current system setup you have. To check the amperage of the 12 volt rail by googling your psu or by reading the label ussualy posted on the side. I think its 38amps or 40amps for the GTX 260? So you will need to have the two 12 volt rails add up past 38amps.

A lot of people try to skim on the PSU, and get burned by it after a short while. Not all psu's are created equal!!!

I cry bs.

Quote:
ive already been running my GTX 260 with The current PSU i have for two months with no problems!!!
it runs fine

my current system is:
AMD Athlon 64 x2 5200+ 2.6ghz missing a transistor because im an idiot
2gb DDR 2 200mhz ram (YES ITS 200 MHZ ****) PC 4100 or something lol
GTX 260
550W powersupply
some crap motherboard judging by the RAM lol

BTW: IM PLANNING TO RUN GAMES AT 1440X900 LOL!


EPIC OVERKILL FOR 1440X900 LOL! my 9600GT runs crysis at max on that res 4x AA! havent tried 8x AA yet but seriously!
November 26, 2008 11:19:42 PM

I am buying the parts from a near by shop, I'm a grade 11 student and my parents won't buy stuff online.
Their selection was limited and the coolermaster psi was the cheapest they had that would support my gpu (38A).
I went back and so the p45 mb and to be honest the only diffrence it has is that it supports faster ram and pcie 2.0 which I won't even need
I hesitate to spend another 30 bucks for it and I'm on a very tight budget (grade 11 student) .
My psu has sheated cables, is 80% efficient, and 3 12v rails at 19A each!!
Not to mention a 120mm fan :p 
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