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May 7, 2010 3:30:26 PM

Hello

i got a kind of big problem
my pc doesen't start
when i start the pc i get : boot failiure
i don't now what to do
i tryed everything
the first this i did : i openend the pc and looked for some dead wire's or things like that
but everything is oke
i think its my HDD
when i put the windows xp install disk is says setup cannot acces to the HDD
my HDD i fine i think the wire's are oke
and the only thing i now of my HDD is that it is a Cable select HDD...? and its 40GB

so hope you guys can help me

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PC Specs
Intel Pentium 4 1.8 GHZ
mother board ...?
512 MB RAM
40 GB HDD
and its a HP E-PC 42

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a b G Storage
May 7, 2010 9:02:00 PM

Is there anything that you really need on that HDD?
May 8, 2010 8:44:22 AM

elel said:
Is there anything that you really need on that HDD?


no there is nothing i need .... do i need to replace the HDD
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a b G Storage
May 8, 2010 12:59:46 PM

Well, let us catalog what might cause a problem like this. Bad motherboard, bad cable, bad power cable, bad hard drive. The easiest to check would be the power and data cables, at least if you have extras. You said that you thought the hard drive was good. Does that mean that you heard it spinning? In that case, the power cable is probably not the problem. Are there any abnormal noises that you hear?
May 9, 2010 8:49:08 AM

elel said:
Well, let us catalog what might cause a problem like this. Bad motherboard, bad cable, bad power cable, bad hard drive. The easiest to check would be the power and data cables, at least if you have extras. You said that you thought the hard drive was good. Does that mean that you heard it spinning? In that case, the power cable is probably not the problem. Are there any abnormal noises that you hear?




nope i hear nothing special out that pc just normal noise the only thing i hear is the FAN
a b G Storage
May 9, 2010 12:35:17 PM

If you open it up and take the hard drive out while leaving it attached (make sure to touch the metal case before touching any parts) and then turn the computer on, can you hear the drive itself spinning and clicking?
May 9, 2010 4:37:38 PM

elel said:
If you open it up and take the hard drive out while leaving it attached (make sure to touch the metal case before touching any parts) and then turn the computer on, can you hear the drive itself spinning and clicking?



the HDD is working well i hear a spinning noise from te HDD and clicking noise to
a b G Storage
May 9, 2010 10:50:10 PM

Is the clicking constant, like in a rhythm? Like click...click...click...click, without stopping? If so, your hard drive is probably dead. Just get a new one.
May 10, 2010 1:34:31 AM

do you have a floppy drive? forgotten floppy disk can cause if floppy is set as first boot device.
a b G Storage
May 10, 2010 2:45:19 AM

:lol: 
I almost forgot about that. (entirely, I mean)
May 10, 2010 1:32:28 PM

lol i dont got a floppy drive
but i can set my boot orden so first the cd drive then floppy then hdd and then lan
the 2nd selection is the same but then hdd and lan switched
May 10, 2010 1:34:06 PM

the hdd is fine i heat 2 times somtimes 2 and then i hear it spinning
May 10, 2010 1:35:02 PM

heel there i ama agian
i got an 500 GB hdd can i put it on my pc
and i dont got any power suply i got an adapter for my pc so
a b G Storage
May 10, 2010 9:23:57 PM

um, what?
May 13, 2010 9:18:50 AM

hello got a other problem Cannot open Theme Settings, Display Settings, Screen Saver

when i click it i got nothing
i got windows Vista Home Premium SP1 i hapenend after i instaled vista Glazz for themes
May 13, 2010 12:12:10 PM

hello i the pc that i have the pentuim 4 has this problem
when i boot it will say boot failiure insert prober boot device or insert boot bedia pres any key when ready

i really need to fix this problem so please help me
a b G Storage
May 13, 2010 8:03:01 PM

Is this the same old drive as in the original post? Or are we dealing with something else now?
May 14, 2010 8:47:24 AM

elel said:
Is this the same old drive as in the original post? Or are we dealing with something else now?


no its the same problem wiht the same drive i replaced the hdd wiht a other one i got the same problem so the hdd is not the problem
what else could it be'mother board...?
i can't replace the mainboard cuz this pc is as old as me
so yeah... what now
but i really want slove this problem
a b G Storage
May 14, 2010 12:16:49 PM

Did it work for awhile with the new drive? I'm guessing it did. Do you have a cd in any of the cd drives, or a floppy in the floppy drive? If so, try removing it and re-booting.
May 16, 2010 7:45:26 PM

elel said:
Did it work for awhile with the new drive? I'm guessing it did. Do you have a cd in any of the cd drives, or a floppy in the floppy drive? If so, try removing it and re-booting.

listen i don't got a floppy drive
it dident work with the new hdd just the same problem
a b G Storage
May 16, 2010 7:57:42 PM

This problem can also be caused by a cd in the cd drive. This can be solved by taking the cd out, and/or switching the HDD to the first slot in the boot order sequence. Also, I saw on another thread that someone was having a somewhat similar problem with win 7, as in re-install, works, re-boot, doesn't. They solved it by disabling automatic updates in windows.
May 17, 2010 2:20:42 PM

DANM
there isn't a cd in the drive I CAN't INSTALL WINDOWS CUZ MY INSTALL CD DOESN'T COME SOMTHING IT CANNOT ACCES TO THE HDD SO..................................................
a b G Storage
May 17, 2010 11:01:50 PM

OK, I'll pm a couple of other people to look at this thread and see if they have ideas. It could be something simple which I don't know about.
a b G Storage
May 17, 2010 11:22:01 PM

did anything happen the the computer? power surge, drop it, virus, previous problems,...

1. reset bios to fail-safe defaults, if you can't find it take the battery out and smoke a cigarette then put it back, it'll do the same thing

2. set first boot device to cd, second to HDD, rest doesn't matter assuming only one hdd installed

3. reboot

4. does the hdd show up in the bios???

5.a. if yes put your win disc in and off you go
b. if no try i. different drive
ii. different cable
iii. different port on mb

6. report back what happens
a b G Storage
May 18, 2010 3:13:39 AM

Thanks for bailing me out, man. Good advice.
May 18, 2010 4:07:32 PM

505090 said:
did anything happen the the computer? power surge, drop it, virus, previous problems,...

1. reset bios to fail-safe defaults, if you can't find it take the battery out and smoke a cigarette then put it back, it'll do the same thing

2. set first boot device to cd, second to HDD, rest doesn't matter assuming only one hdd installed

3. reboot

4. does the hdd show up in the bios???

5.a. if yes put your win disc in and off you go
b. if no try i. different drive
ii. different cable
iii. different port on mb

6. report back what happens



just the same problem nothing helped
and i cant set the cd first it always
this you can chose
1th.usb floppy cd hdd and then lan
2nd. usb floppy cd lan hdd
a b G Storage
May 18, 2010 5:05:12 PM

mothekiller said:
just the same problem nothing helped
and i cant set the cd first it always
this you can chose
1th.usb floppy cd hdd and then lan
2nd. usb floppy cd lan hdd


boot order was for later was for later steps, doesn't matter till the drive shows up in the bios

but if you've tried two drives (after checking the jumpers), with two cables, on both motherboard ports and it still can't see the drives then the board is bad.
May 20, 2010 7:08:37 PM

505090 said:
boot order was for later was for later steps, doesn't matter till the drive shows up in the bios

but if you've tried two drives (after checking the jumpers), with two cables, on both motherboard ports and it still can't see the drives then the board is bad.



my mother boeard is oke
the HDD is recgonized
sp what now

but do u now what is say's
It Says : booting from previus device failed
boot failiure
insert boot media
press any key when ready then i inter a key and i got the same the hole F*CKING TIME
a b G Storage
May 20, 2010 9:08:23 PM

I'm starting to wonder if your cd drive is good.
May 21, 2010 2:37:50 PM

elel said:
I'm starting to wonder if your cd drive is good.





i dont know
but i got a kind of laptop cd drive you click it and hen it pop's up then you need to pull it just like a laptop cd drive
i can try to boot from an usb stick.........?
a b G Storage
May 21, 2010 4:13:46 PM

ok then, the drive is properly recognized in the bios

if your boot order is "usb floppy cd lan hdd " make sure there is nothing in the usb or floppy and disconnect the lan. When you try to boot with the win disk in if it says "booting from previous device failed " then it failed to boot from the cd. So we either have a problem with the disk or the drive. Is the disc clean? does the drive show up in the bios? easiest way to check the disc is to try booting from it in another computer.
May 22, 2010 7:50:56 AM

505090 said:
ok then, the drive is properly recognized in the bios

if your boot order is "usb floppy cd lan hdd " make sure there is nothing in the usb or floppy and disconnect the lan. When you try to boot with the win disk in if it says "booting from previous device failed " then it failed to boot from the cd. So we either have a problem with the disk or the drive. Is the disc clean? does the drive show up in the bios? easiest way to check the disc is to try booting from it in another computer.



without the cd i get that boot failiure to
so i don't think its the cd drive cus i tested it and it worked
a b G Storage
May 22, 2010 8:22:57 PM

does it appear to be trying to boot form the cd? does the cd work in another computer? if you don't have access to another computer try booting a linux live cd, make sure it's on a cd not a dvd though.
a b G Storage
May 23, 2010 1:03:23 AM

2 observations. 1. if he had access to a computer to burn a linux cd, he would have access to test the windows one. 2. but he obviously has access to a computer, since he is posting here. :)  That was to make myself feel like Sherlock Homes.
Seriously, trying linux is a good idea. And if you don't mind just switching to it, you can install it from a usb drive.
May 23, 2010 1:23:45 PM

elel said:
2 observations. 1. if he had access to a computer to burn a linux cd, he would have access to test the windows one. 2. but he obviously has access to a computer, since he is posting here. :)  That was to make myself feel like Sherlock Homes.
Seriously, trying linux is a good idea. And if you don't mind just switching to it, you can install it from a usb drive.



thanks Sherlock Homes :D  i will try it
a b G Storage
May 23, 2010 6:25:01 PM

You're welcome. I recommend linux mint - that's what I'm typing this on right now. It is an Ubuntu derivative, but with flash, mp3 and other playback included and a more 'windows like' layout.
May 24, 2010 8:08:04 AM

elel said:
You're welcome. I recommend linux mint - that's what I'm typing this on right now. It is an Ubuntu derivative, but with flash, mp3 and other playback included and a more 'windows like' layout.



just a ask but can u Make a screen shot of the os yuor using
i wanna see :D 
a b G Storage
May 27, 2010 1:39:33 AM

OK, here are some screenshots. Keep in mind that these are from mint 8, not the current mint 9, that I am using a netbook (I have a desktop, but I use this more), and that the wallpaper is one I downloaded from socwall.com

My desktop:


One of the things I most like about linux. You can have multiple 'workspaces', which are each like their own desktop. The icons and folders are the same across all of them, but you can have different windows open on each. Like if I'm writing a paper I sometimes set it up so that I have like 8 workspaces and have a different source open on each. To switch between them in mint you use ctrl + alt + (either right arrow, left arrow, left click and drag). To move windows, hold shift also and the active one will move with you. This screenshot shows the cube arrangement (you can also do a flat wall) dragged to show a corner.
May 27, 2010 1:47:20 PM

elel said:
OK, here are some screenshots. Keep in mind that these are from mint 8, not the current mint 9, that I am using a netbook (I have a desktop, but I use this more), and that the wallpaper is one I downloaded from socwall.com

My desktop:
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz131/el3l/mint%208%20screenshots/desktop.png

One of the things I most like about linux. You can have multiple 'workspaces', which are each like their own desktop. The icons and folders are the same across all of them, but you can have different windows open on each. Like if I'm writing a paper I sometimes set it up so that I have like 8 workspaces and have a different source open on each. To switch between them in mint you use ctrl + alt + (either right arrow, left arrow, left click and drag). To move windows, hold shift also and the active one will move with you. This screenshot shows the cube arrangement (you can also do a flat wall) dragged to show a corner.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz131/el3l/mint%208%20screenshots/cube.png




thanks very much for the name of the os and the screenshot's i'm downloading it right now to see if it works
thanks a lot :D 
a b G Storage
May 27, 2010 8:47:35 PM

You're welcome! If you need any help, PM me or say something in this thread. I'm not a whizz, but I made it through one semester on mint and I'm planning on taking unix system administration this fall. if I don't know something, linux0 on the linux/free bsd section of this forum is pretty good.

One of the big tips I can give you now: if you right click on the taskbar and select "add to panel" there are tons of applets you can add. One of my favorite ones is 'inhibit applet' which if you click stops auto screensavers or sleeping with a single click (say if you're downloading something). The other is 'force quit' which you can click on to give you a 'kill' cursor to deal with a locked up program. Since ctrl-alt-delete doesn't work in linux I had a hard time dealing with this when I started. If a full screen application crashes, ctrl-alt-backspace should kill your user session and allow you to log back in and start over. Firefox it awesome - I tried that combination (for the first time) while typing this and it saved my text for me to pick up on when I logged back in.
May 28, 2010 7:15:47 AM

elel said:
You're welcome! If you need any help, PM me or say something in this thread. I'm not a whizz, but I made it through one semester on mint and I'm planning on taking unix system administration this fall. if I don't know something, linux0 on the linux/free bsd section of this forum is pretty good.

One of the big tips I can give you now: if you right click on the taskbar and select "add to panel" there are tons of applets you can add. One of my favorite ones is 'inhibit applet' which if you click stops auto screensavers or sleeping with a single click (say if you're downloading something). The other is 'force quit' which you can click on to give you a 'kill' cursor to deal with a locked up program. Since ctrl-alt-delete doesn't work in linux I had a hard time dealing with this when I started. If a full screen application crashes, ctrl-alt-backspace should kill your user session and allow you to log back in and start over. Firefox it awesome - I tried that combination (for the first time) while typing this and it saved my text for me to pick up on when I logged back in.




thanks for all you'r help
but i sloved the problem
i did the windows xp pro installation disk in the pc i booted from it AND DELETED ALL THE PATATION'S AND MAKED A NEW ONE AND ALSo is did is formated to ntfs then i instaled windows and OMG it worked i was so happy

but thanks any ways and by the way sorry for the caps

have a nice day
a b G Storage
May 28, 2010 1:07:55 PM

You too :) 
!