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Hi all! I'm not much of a technical person, so please bear with me. My vendor is offering me two configs which are similar in all respects except that one is an amd based rig and the other an intel one. They are-

1. PROCESSOR - AMD PHENOM X4 9650 - QUAD CORE 2.3 GHZ.

MOTHERBOERD - ASUS M3A 78 EM ( UPGRADABLE UPTO 8 GB RAM ) .

HARD DISK - 320 GB.

RAM - 2 GB RAM.

DVD WRITER - SONY SATA DVD WRITER.

MONITOR - ASUS 19'' WIDE SCREEN.

2. PROCESSOR - INTEL 2.8 GHZ. CORE 2 DUO - E 7400

MOTHERBOARD - INTEL ORIGINAL 35 EC. ( UPGRADABLE UPTO 8 GB RAM )

HARD DISK - 320 GB.

RAM - 2 GB RAM.

DVD WRITER - LG DVD WRITER

MONITOR - SAMSUNG 18.5'' WIDE SCREEN

I might run 3ds max, maya on the purchased rig sometime in the near future, mainly for architectural visualization.

Do let me know if any component/brand etc. out of the above has any glitches/shortcomings I should consider [such as overheating etc]

Both rigs are similarly priced at US $500 and yes, I am on a tight budget.

The quad core seems an obvious choice but i wanted to run it by the expert minds here.

Thanks a lot. All help is greatly appreciated.

P.S. Sorry about the uppercase gaffe there. Really sorry.

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No Graphics Card?

What about Operating System?

Case?

There was no mention of a PSU either, are these included in your price tag?

I know you're on a budget, but 2gb if ram runs out quick.
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If it was a Phenom 2, I would definetly go with AMD build.
As is though, I would prefer the Intel build over the AMD.....the older Phenoms, well I just don't think they are that great, even on a tight budget.

Yet again a vender just trying to sell some crap hardware to a person who is not sure of what hes buying.
In my opinion the Asus 19 wide screen is ok, thats it.
I live in the UK so im not the best person to tell you what you can get for your budget over there, I know you have a nice shop called Newegg, so Im sure some of the people in the US on this forum can tell you that you can get a better system for around the $500, so help him out guys.

I wouldn't go for the original Phenoms....they aren't really that good.

If he could switch that 9650 out with a Phenom II, I would recommend the AMD.
However..at the way we're looking at it now, C2D>Phenom 9650.
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Also, you can find MUCH better desktop deals, even from places like Best Buy. I think this guy is ripping you off because none of that crap is worth 500.

Look at this, it's for 500.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Core 2 Quad Q8200
GeForce 512mb 8400GS
4gb DDR2 800
320GB HDD

You might have to buy the monitor seperately but its not that expensive.

Whoa! Thanks for your replies guys. So what you're saying is that the intel e7400 will be better than the phenom 9650 x4?!! & I'd thought a quad core would have been better than a dual core any day. But could you please go into the specifics of why one is better than the other?

MUCH Appreciated. Thanks.

Is the person who works at this vender a friend of yours ? because I really think you can get a alot better system somewhere else for $500,
but its just my opinon and I dont like to see people get ripped off.

Yeah that system blows.

Also, the original Phenoms are just...i guess... substandard. True, they are quad, but there's just something about them that doesn't scream AWESOME QUAD CORE.

I strongly recommend not buying either of those, because they are absolute garbage for $500. You can easily grab yourself a MUCH better system (C2Q, Phenom II, maybe + a good vid card, more RAM, etc) for that price. Take a look at the link i showed you up in my previous post.

Just look at the CPU chart here and on Anandtech for 3DS Max 9. It clearly prefers quad cores over dual cores. The Phenom IIs and Intel quads (like Q6600) start at $190. The Phenom 9650 is currently at $125.

So, getting a 9650 would allow you to get a better GPU than the 8400GS in the iBUYPOWER build, like an ATI HD 4830.
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Wow, so much misery. Either system looks like a train wreck just waiting to happen. The PSU is probably some cheepie that comes with a case; forget about adding a GPU.
The one Third Level linked is similar; to call that machine "gamer power" with an 8400GS and a PSU probably too light for a paperweight is just a poor joke.
$500 can build something better than any of them, WAY better.

Now, if by some miracle the first two systems include a decent PSU (e.g. an Antec Earthwatts, sometimes included in cases), then the choice comes down to your total budget. If you can't afford another $80 or so, the IGP on the Asus board does not suck as badly as the one on the Intel board, and may even allow you to play older games. If you CAN afford another $80 for a HD4670 (or even $60 for a HD4650), the Intel will be a lot better than the AMD.

Edit: Even so, you can build better for $500.

Thanks for all your replies!

I'm extremely sorry for having forgotten to mention that I'm from India & will be buying the system here. I had converted into US$ to give everyone here a fair idea - my bad! I never realized that the discussion would turn to pricing [embarrassed & sorry].

These 2 systems seem to be the best available for my budget which is around Rs. 25000 INR ~$500US.

I'll definitely try & hunt for a better deal but that seems far-fetched - such is the situation here.

Once again, I'm sorry for all the confusion but I'm glad that there are such members around who are watching out for newbies like myself.

Thanks once again & hope to get something better for my budget.

But If I don't succeed then which of the two above would be better for 3ds max, maya. Hope it's not too much to ask. You'll have been so gracious & kind. Much appreciated.
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No reason to be embarrassed. Is there an English-language web site for the place where you will be buying these things? Perhaps we'll be able to be more specific if we can see all of your available choices, or every detail of the choices you have.

The CPU charts don't have the e7400, but they do have the e7200. Each one wins some of the benchmarks, and others are too close to make a difference. In 3ds max, however, the Phenom has a substantial lead. If those are your choices, I think the Phenom would be the better one for you, only because of your intended uses. The integrated graphics on that system are much better than on the Intel, which may help in other things too. Still, hopefully you will have some other choices.
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If your going to use 3ds max/ maya and render out high quality or larger tasks often I would choose the quad. However the duel core will beat it in most tasks as most things can only utilize 1 or 2 threads on a processor.
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