Help me to choose....Please

im looking to buy my 14 yr old son a gaming computer.. I want a good one. i was looking at the dell studio xps for about 1,000. is this a good buy? can anyone give me suggestions??
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  1. Most people on this forum will recommend not going Dell and building it yourself, and they're right to. However, if you want a pre-built computer you might be better off visiting local stores to see what charges they have for building a PC to your specifications. You'll end up with a better system that your son can upgrade in the future, whereas Dell systems tend to be pretty limited in how you can upgrade them.
  2. I recommend the dell vostro 220 deals for around $400-450 shipped. The cpu and memory are more than adequate for gaming. Then add a mid range video card such as the 3650 from newegg (new or open box). The dell power supply will handle low to mid range cards without changing the ps. Some of the newer dells have micro atx boards which you can change later. Most dell boards have a separate pci-e slot for video cards, but check the specs carefully before ordering. The weekly deals are listed on fatwallet.
  3. Kraynor said:
    Most people on this forum will recommend not going Dell and building it yourself, and they're right to. However, if you want a pre-built computer you might be better off visiting local stores to see what charges they have for building a PC to your specifications. You'll end up with a better system that your son can upgrade in the future, whereas Dell systems tend to be pretty limited in how you can upgrade them.

    ty for taking the time to answer me. I would like to know what prebuilt system is good for me to buy.. I really know nothing about it and dont wanna get scamed...
    ty for any help u can provide\
    teresa
  4. I recommend the dell vostro 220 deals for around $400-450 shipped. The cpu and memory are more than adequate for gaming. Then add a mid range video card such as the 3650 from newegg (new or open box). The dell power supply will handle low to mid range cards without changing the ps. Some of the newer dells have micro atx boards which you can change later. Most dell boards have a separate pci-e slot for video cards, but check the specs carefully before ordering. The weekly deals are listed on fatwallet.[/qu


    maybe you could give me some prebult suggestions since I wouldnt know where to start even telling them what i want.. I would be such a easy mark.. anything suggestions would be greatly appericated
    teresa
  5. I guess if you're only looking to buy prebuilt, here's some decent choices:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229064
    Phenom II X4, GTX260, 4gb DDR2, 1TB

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227123
    Core i7 , 3gb DDR3, 500GB, GeForce 9800GT

    They are around $1000 but for prebuilt they are not bad at all.
  6. Found these from NEWEGG

    $229.00 CPU- AMD II 940 PHENOM
    $109.99 ASUS M4A78 PRO AM2+/AM2 780
    $89.00 CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB(2X2GB) DDR2 1066
    $339.99 EVGA GeFORCE GTX 285 1GB
    $69.99 HARD DRIVE SEAGATE 640GB 32MB Cache
    $104.99 PSU OCZ 700W ATX +(Free DVD Burner)
    $79.00 CASE COOLER MASTER RC-690 BLACK ATX TOWER

    $1021.96 TOTAL PRICE.
    some of the other guys could just check I got everything right, but this would be a good system I think for the price.

    Dam I forgot the OS, You will need a 64bit like vista home premuim 64bit will do, dont go 32 bit !
  7. Sorry about the OS that kind a blows your budget, think there about $99
  8. Sorry about the OS that kind a blows your budget, think there about $99
  9. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227084
    iBUYPOWER is not my favorite company (I don't really like any company really), but my friend one of their computers and I like it.
    The one he got is here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227102
    If you look at CyberPowerPC, I believe they are owned by iBUYPOWER.
  10. If you need a capable system and you like Dell systems, I say go for it. Dell has a decent warranty and I've never personally known anyone that has gotten a Dell and had problems with it as soon as it was plugged in.

    http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/desktop-inspiron-518?c=us&cs=19&l=en&ref=dthp&s=dhs

    This shows the Inspiron 518. Now keep in mind that this does not have a great graphics card in it. The good news is that it comes with a 17" flat screen monitor and adding a video card is a simple process.

    The Dell labeled as:
    Inspiron 518
    Core 2 Duo Processor & 500GB Hard Drive

    I recommend this one; it's $579 and you can buy a video card to upgrade it.

    This video card is an attractive price and will perform quite well for most games.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102820
  11. Dell robs you.
  12. i advise you to build your own PC....<<<depends on your budget>>>
  13. She doesn't really seem to want to get down and dirty inside the computer, people. Which excludes making one.
  14. This is a mom trying to buy her son a decent computer. Yes Dell is a tad over priced, but they do have support and decent warranty after the sale.

    She did not ask how to build one guys, common........

    The simplest thing would be to buy a major name Boxed computer and add a video card to it. Unless she knows some one that can put the parts together for her.

    I know there are a bunch of enthusiast here that can build systems in their sleep but this is not the case.
  15. I apreciate all your hep.. I can buy the seperate things if u guys list them for me.

    thanks again , looking foward to more imput
    teresa
  16. ok jimbo. if i give this list to the store, I get it in pieces... right?
  17. Are you in a metropolitan area? You might find come custom computer builders that could build one to order. Also I've noticed people on craigslist selling gaming computers. If you can find someone that is reputible then maybe they can help you get what you want. There are a few companies that sell nationwide, but their systems are usually more top end systems for higher prices.

    You might check the Dell website, maybe even the outlet, to see if you can get a system with an E7400 in it. Then get someone local to install a $200 video card.
  18. sweetsinnn, how do you feel about ordering parts online?

    I know some people are touchy about giving out credit card numbers over the internet but there is a solution for that. Just go up to the grocery store and buy a few gift cards. The ones I get locally cost $4 and I can put $300 on them. Then I'll use up the rest next time I go shopping.

    www.newegg.com is the best place to get computer parts. Their customer service is THE best hands down. Certainly other people have had good experiences with other online companies but you will find that most computer geeks will definitely recommend newegg.

    I can put together a parts list at newegg if you want to order the stuff online.

    Just so I know, do you need a mouse, keyboard, monitor?

    P.S. I mention ordering online because it is MUCH cheaper than buying from a store. You can easily save $200+ ordering online.
  19. hi ir_efrem
    ty for the info and i would love for u to make me a list and ill purchase it from where u tell me. Im sure there is someone in the area that can put it together for me if I start inquiring.
    ty ty
    looking foward to hearing back from you
    teresa
  20. You never really mentioned a budget or the type of games he wants to play (that is VERY important). For about a $800 I recommend an Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 with an Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT or GTX. If you want to go $1000 then a Core 2 Extreme would work with a 9800 GTX or GTX+. Anything over $1000 then you might as well get an i7 with a 9800 GTX+ or better. Also, in agreement with everyone else, you NEED 64-bit Vista, any version. And to save boot time with the OS you should probably get a 10,000 RPM VelociRaptor Hard Drive from Western Digital (only if your willing to spend more than $1000, though).
  21. ^^ 64-bit Vista is needed for over 4gb RAM.
    I agree with the the 4850.
    Drives will never matter because they're so cheap anyway.
    Phenom II>all in price/performance at the moment.
  22. Well whatever, its there if you want to :p
  23. Do you need a monitor, and what do you prefer: Microsoft Vista or XP. How much do you want to spend?
  24. yes he wants a flat screen, i want which ever is better, micro or vista
    the comp im on now runs vista. I thought u couldnt even get ms anymore and i wanted to stay about 1000...hes not a hard core gamer but im sure he will be going in that direction once he gets his own comp. and ill be glad hes off mine
  25. DVD burner $21.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136149

    Case $59.95
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042

    Hard Drive 500gb $59.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136149

    Monitor 22" widescreen $159.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254035

    Video Card ATI 4850 $144.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102770

    Power Supply Corsair 550w $99.99 ($20.00 mail in rebate)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004

    Mouse and Keyboard $14.99 each
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109029
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826193039

    Memory Kingston 4gb $41.49
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134641

    Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-EP43-UD3L $79.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128380

    CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 $164.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037

    Vista Home Basic SP1 $89.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116480

    $994.32 TOTAL - shipped to my house anyway, your shipping cost may be different

    Goto www.newegg.com, create an account, and log in.

    Click on all the links I have above and ADD TO CART =)

    If you wish I can adjust a few items to save a little money and it wont have hardly any impact on performance of the computer.

    I can also write up an EASY how-to with images that will show You how to put it together. It could be a great learning experience for both you and your son =)

    Anything I can do to help just ask.
  26. 1k and not even a quad?

    Do what he^^ did, but swap out that Core 2 Duo for at least a Phenom II X3 720BE (similar price), and an AM2+ mobo.
  27. Unless this young man is going to overclock that processor and he will will doing TONS of video editing/image editing with photoshop then that Triple Core that you are recommending is not better.

    The E8400 is an awesome CPU for the price and offers the best gaming and processing power for the price (for what he will be doing with it).
  28. It would really help if you ask him what games he will play.
  29. Considering that triple core is cheaper, more future proof, and has an unlocked multiplier, and the extra core, what you say makes no sense whatsoever.
  30. Up date on what I wrote a few days ago

    All from NEWEGG
    $229.00 CPU- AMD II 940 PHENOM
    $109.99 ASUS M4A78 PRO AM2+/AM2 780
    $89.00 CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB(2X2GB) DDR2 1066
    $339.99 EVGA GeFORCE GTX 285 1GB
    $69.99 HARD DRIVE SEAGATE 640GB 32MB Cache
    $104.99 PSU OCZ 700W ATX +(Free DVD Burner)
    $79.00 CASE COOLER MASTER RC-690 BLACK ATX TOWER

    $1021.96 TOTAL PRICE.
    Found these from NEWEGG

    Im from the UK so Im not hundred % sure but I think you get rebate from NEWEGG so the total price may work out a little cheaper,

    When I posted this list of parts a few days ago I was thinking more future proof for her son and something that would last him a few years, the reason for why I picked a 700w PSU was so that he would have the chance of adding a second Graphics card in the future, and then he wouldnt have to worry about if he had enough power to run any upgrades,
    As for the changes people have said about the CPU, well theres nothing wrong with a core 2 Duo E8400 its a great cpu, but one day is gona be wishing he had a Quad core like the AMD PHENOM II 940 or the PHENOM II X3 720B.
    Also changing the Graphics card GeFORCE GTX 285 to a ATI 4850 will save you money so thats a good idea,
    The should I have 32bit OS or should I have 64bit OS, well its like this if you go 32bit OS you will only need 3GB of ram because thats all it will use, but then you have to think whats the point of only going 32bit OS when the pc and all the hardware in it is really built for using 64bit OS, I went from 32bit OS to a 64bit OS and noticed some supprising changes in how faster it was with 64bit OS, so I say go 64bit,
    If by any chance you decide to go to some local computer store and have one built, I would take someone with you who knows a little bit about PCs or just ask a friend to come along and pretend they know,
    because Im sick of people getting ripped off by people from local stores which try to sell them a load of rubbish that know one wants any more,
    I would build this for you but Im something like 6000 miles away, so Im sorry for that, but some of these local lads on this forum could help.
  31. Future proof means almost nothing right at this time. New sockets are on the horizon. This is an advantage as well. When the new sockets come out the Intel Quads will drop in price. Then IF, and yes it is still an "IF", new games come out that can take advantage of quad core CPUs, it's an easy upgrade to a nice quad.

    I would like to note that my component list is a whole and complete system that comes in under $1,000. Monitor, keyboard, mouse, and OS is included. I choose 4gb because it is a good price and if they decide to upgrade to a 64bit operating system, they wont need to upgrade the memory immediately. It just doesn't make sense to purchase 3gb of ram as well.

    In most games the E8400 will outperform the Phenom II X3 and at comparable price points. I choose the components for a reason and I can easily (and logically) defend every choice I made.

    If I thought that her 14 year old son was about to jump in and start messing with stuff like overclocking I might recommend the Phenom, but wait..... the E8400 also overclocks very nicely. I have no real issues with using a Phenom, but for the price the E8400 will outperform in games. A quad core can easily be added instead of a dual core and not change the price much at all. There are a few very nice Intels at the lower end that are great performers. In todays games the quad still wont outperform a Dual Core that is clocked higher. In reality the difference in negligible and I could recommend a Q8300, Q9400, or a Phenom X3/X4.

    The video card is also a good match for the native resolution of the monitor etc etc etc...

    To those that want to attack and try to chip away at credibility of anyone, please stop; if you prefer something else for a build explain in simple to understand language, WHY you choose something else (just follow Jason's example, he knows how to explain something without silly attacks). "We are not recommending a build for a person that has some experience with actually building a computer!"
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