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AMD PhenomII X3 710(720BE) 3core --> 4core PhenomII X4 920

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February 23, 2009 1:01:33 AM













http://www.playwares.com/xe/?document_srl=2233323#105


seoul , korea

CPU : AMD phenom2-X3 heka 710 AM3( 13배수X270) @ 3.12G

volt:

CPU : 1.37v(Default : 1.325v)
NB : 1.2v(Default : 1.2v)
HT : 1.2v(Default : 1.2v)
etc: AUTO

Cooler : zalman 9900LED

RAM : EK DDR2 PC6400 2G X 2

VGA : GTX260(216)

MainBoard : Biostar TA790GX 128M

POWER : OCZ 700W

O/S : Window XP SP3




cpu= 710, 720be both ok

board= amd 790gx + sb750(acc;Advanced Clock Calibration)

you can change






x3 720be -> 4core



another x3 720be -> 4core

February 23, 2009 1:13:36 AM

it is true
February 23, 2009 1:15:38 AM

How...

and did it stay like that?
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February 23, 2009 1:16:46 AM

amazing! :D 
February 23, 2009 1:17:50 AM

just on bios acc -> auto



February 23, 2009 1:19:16 AM

acc = auto -> 4core

acc = disabled -> 3core
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February 23, 2009 1:28:18 AM

lol... wait.. what?
February 23, 2009 1:29:08 AM

710, 720be -> 4core ok?

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February 23, 2009 1:30:30 AM

photoshop rules.
February 23, 2009 1:31:22 AM

it was unable on ASUS's 790gx sb750 board, also OPN-0849...it's not falses.
February 23, 2009 1:34:24 AM

werxen said:
photoshop rules.


So they photo shoped the BIOS screen, cpuz window, prime 95 window, and task manager window?

Although it is odd cpuz list it as a AM2+....when the chip is really an AM3. We need somebody who actually owns a P2 X3 to check CPUz to see if its just wrongly listing it as AM2+
February 23, 2009 1:37:44 AM

First of all, excuse me for my poor English.

IT IS NOT FAKE AT ALL.

According to some Korean hardware sites, Phenom II x3 710 and 720BE with 0904xxxx stepping can be transformed to Phenom II X4.
(0849xxxx steppings seemed to not work, and other steppings are not imported in Korea, so no idea for other steppings.)

It needs following conditions.

1. working with 790gx&sb750-based boards.(Asrock and Biostar boards are confirmed. Asus seemed to not work)

2. ACC option in BIOS set to per core or auto
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February 23, 2009 1:38:00 AM

spathotan said:
So they photo shoped the BIOS screen, cpuid window, prime 95 window, and task manager window?


Nope, not at all. All those pictures you see of celebrities nude are real. In fact this is real too:


I hear its a new species. Now that you mention it, pretty much 100% of what you see on the internet is real.
February 23, 2009 1:39:46 AM

Dont be a smart ass. Infact youre the only person that would actually go through the "trouble" of photoshopping some CPUz screens to make a tri into a quad.

Just because you dont WANT to believe something dosent mean you need to start spouting "FAKEZZ LULZ". Give it a chance, dont be afraid that it can 1up your E8500.
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February 23, 2009 1:41:18 AM

spathotan said:
Dont be a smart ass. Infact youre the only person that would actually go through the "trouble" of photoshopping some CPUz screens to make a tri into a quad.


Don't*

In fact*

you're*

EDIT: lol at your response. shows how stupid you truly are spath. Pictures are worth a thousand words are they not?
February 23, 2009 1:41:28 AM


it must be joke, lie

today is not April Fools´ Day !!
February 23, 2009 1:45:36 AM

itsmynewid said:
First of all, excuse me for my poor English.

IT IS NOT FAKE AT ALL.

According to some Korean hardware sites, Phenom II x3 710 and 720BE with 0904xxxx stepping can be transformed to Phenom II X4.
(0849xxxx steppings seemed to not work, and other steppings are not imported in Korea, so no idea for other steppings.)

It needs following conditions.

1. working with 790gx&sb750-based boards.(Asrock and Biostar boards are confirmed. Asus seemed to not work)

2. ACC option in BIOS set to per core or auto


These X3's were/are suposedly X4's with the 4th core disabled due to errors I thought. Even if you can enable that 4th core, youre bound to run across a crash/BSOD/error eventually.
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February 23, 2009 1:48:00 AM

Can we get some verification? So far I have heard nothing but bad English and spath ramble on with theories. Anyone on toms with a 3 core phenom confirm this?
February 23, 2009 1:59:24 AM

spathotan said:
These X3's were/are suposedly X4's with the 4th core disabled due to errors I thought. Even if you can enable that 4th core, youre bound to run across a crash/BSOD/error eventually.


It seemed to work flawlessly as quad core. It is a up and coming issue in Korean hardware sites.

I don't think you can understand Korean, but check out this

http://playwares.com/xe/?document_srl=2233323

At least you can see some charts.

http://image.playwares.com/bbs/data/mutiupload/image/a2...
This shows that prime 95 works flawlessly with 4 cores.

http://image.playwares.com/bbs/data/mutiupload/image/fc...
http://image.playwares.com/bbs/data/mutiupload/image/72...
These even show the difference of power consumption after transforming.
February 23, 2009 2:05:54 AM

Good link itsmynewid. Pictures from the OP but with more. Pretty convincing I think, and a...odd, but good find. Nobody would go through all that just for a BS "gotcha!".
February 23, 2009 2:07:39 AM

PhenomII 710 & 720BE with only 0904
ACC support mainboard (Asrock 790GX & Biostar 790GX OK, But Asus M3A78-T NO. Other AM2+ AM3 mainboard are not confirm until now)


Many people Buyed 0904 PhenomII 710&720BE, and maybe our seeing result on today...... or tomorrow.
February 23, 2009 2:08:23 AM

None of this explains CPUZ reading it as AM2+ however.
February 23, 2009 2:38:49 AM

no~no!!!

that's not true

CPU recall is
seller's lie!!!!!!!!!!

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
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February 23, 2009 2:50:09 AM

you guys must think AMD is that stupid, huh? simply buy a cheaper 3 core processor and enable the 4th core and everything runs smoothly? yeah... millions invested into a new processor and simply changing one option enables an extra core.

seriously now besides the BS, can anyone on TOMS confirm it? not the 50 new members from korea that are just talk talk talk?
February 23, 2009 2:52:49 AM

hmmmmmmmm.........it's true. because of this 'problem', AMD P2 heka 710 & 720 are blocked to buy on korea(yong-san hardware shops), temporarily.
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February 23, 2009 2:55:02 AM

really? care to provide link to evidence? and why would they stop shipping? the manufacturer only loses money, not the supplier. makes no sense economically.

edit: only thing thumbing down my posts is doing is showing how ridiculous your argument is. you are the same person logging in and out of different accounts boasting your stupid claim.

Wonder why there are only 'strangers' posting in this topic being mesmerized by your claims? huh... lets see:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/profile-393421.htm
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/profile-393438.htm
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/profile-393434.htm
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/profile-393428.htm
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/profile-393430.htm
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/profile-393423.htm
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/profile-393411.htm

all joined today within 10 minutes of each other. all post with the same bad english. all claim this works. all have 1-3 posts being IN THIS STUPID THREAD.

get a LIFE you friggin troll. nobody cares.
February 23, 2009 3:01:22 AM

According to the website, the author introduces the history of this accidental discovery.

When the first discoverer found it, most people thought his machine had some inexplainable problems. Indeed, he was not able to run 3DMark06 even though Prime95 worked fine with 4 cores. Furthermore, noone knew how to enable the dead core at the time. Nevertheless some geeks continuously tried to find the exact way to revive the core, and they finally seemed to make it by turning on Advanced Clock Calibration = AUTO.



Unfortunately, not all X3 products are possible to be transformed into X4 according to reports from parkoz website. I think only the CPUs that were produced in 2009 4th week (0904DPDW) seem to work well. However, we still need more information and reports to conclude.
February 23, 2009 3:02:20 AM

it's true..
Heransformer..
Let's buy Heransformer now!!!!!!!!!
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February 23, 2009 3:04:18 AM

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/profile-393450.htm

dcinside
Join date : 02/23/2009
Latest message posted : 02-23-2009 at 06:02 AM
Total posts : 1

Post "it's true..
Heransformer..
Let's buy Heransformer now!!!!!!!!! "

ad that to the 7 accounts you already have buddy. enough now, go away.
February 23, 2009 3:07:15 AM

This thread was linked on the korean site I saw. So its either a swarm of their posters here to back up the claims, or the same guy.
February 23, 2009 3:12:12 AM

spathotan said:
Nobody would go through all that just for a BS "gotcha!".


lol, that kind of thing happens all the time.

I like how the only "people" confirming this have the same writing style as the OP and have only posted in this thread. And they spam "thumbs down" on anybody that disagrees.

Probably BS, or maybe a fluke processor. ACC should have no effect on the number of cores.
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February 23, 2009 3:12:37 AM

spathotan said:
This thread was linked on the korean site I saw. So its either a swarm of their posters here to back up the claims, or the same guy.


its the same guy unless everyone in korea owns a 3 core phenom. like i said before and i will say it again:

someone from toms needs to confirm this.

and btw to the post above:
nice copy + paste of the same cpu usage. quad are 8 core processors with a simple photoshop huh? funny how i NEVER have the same core usage on my DUAL CORE unless its peaked yet you have 8 perfectly symmetrical cores working at the same loads at the same exact time.

damn... i need to work for mythbusters.
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February 23, 2009 3:14:11 AM

turboflame said:
lol, that kind of thing happens all the time.

I like how the only "people" confirming this have the same writing style as the OP and have only posted in this thread. And they spam "thumbs down" on anybody that disagrees.

Probably BS, or maybe a fluke processor. ACC should have no effect on the number of cores.



yeah that's what i said about 2 hours ago but spath had to pretend he knew what he was talking about. im glad to see at least one other person posting here that has his head on straight.


EDIT: for you korean members that thumbed down my previous thread i will be happy to repost it:

really? care to provide link to evidence? and why would they stop shipping? the manufacturer only loses money, not the supplier. makes no sense economically.


edit: only thing thumbing down my posts is doing is showing how ridiculous your argument is. you are the same person logging in and out of different accounts boasting your stupid claim.


Wonder why there are only 'strangers' posting in this topic being mesmerized by your claims? huh... lets see:


http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/profile-393421.htm
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/profile-393438.htm
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/profile-393434.htm
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/profile-393428.htm
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/profile-393430.htm
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/profile-393423.htm
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/profile-393411.htm


all joined today within 10 minutes of each other. all post with the same bad english. all claim this works. all have 1-3 posts being IN THIS STUPID THREAD.


get a LIFE you friggin troll. nobody cares.
February 23, 2009 3:15:41 AM

turboflame said:
lol, that kind of thing happens all the time.

I like how the only "people" confirming this have the same writing style as the OP and have only posted in this thread. And they spam "thumbs down" on anybody that disagrees.

Probably BS, or maybe a fluke processor. ACC should have no effect on the number of cores.


Like I said, its probably the same person or just a swarm of their posters from the korean site thats been linked here. Either way, the pictures alone can at least somewhat clarify at least that ONE chip being able to do this. But their means of justification arent needed, dont need 1000 people saying the same thing. Its a take it for what it is thing.
February 23, 2009 3:18:35 AM

werxen said:
yeah that's what i said about 2 hours ago but spath had to pretend he knew what he was talking about. im glad to see at least one other person posting here that has his head on straight.




Nobody is pretending anything. Stop acting like you are scared of this processor, or these koreans.

Learn to let some stuff get by you, and get over it.
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February 23, 2009 3:23:41 AM

spathotan said:
Like I said, its probably the same person or just a swarm of their posters from the korean site thats been linked here. Either way, the pictures alone can at least somewhat clarify at least that ONE chip being able to do this. But their means of justification arent needed, dont need 1000 people saying the same thing. Its a take it for what it is thing.


no. the pictures do not prove anything spath. i guess u missed the whole post i had earlier with the frog, huh?
February 23, 2009 3:28:09 AM

werxen said:
no. the pictures do not prove anything spath. i guess u missed the whole post i had earlier with the frog, huh?




720be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8500

February 23, 2009 3:30:00 AM

Wanna MOV Files? This post got CPU-Z two screen shots. and 3500Mhz shot
is mine. Yeah, I have X3 720 Black Edition and I make My X3 720BE to Quadcore.

So, I'll be make MOV files and liked it. So, That U can be Trust?
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February 23, 2009 3:59:03 AM

NewManComing said:
Wanna MOV Files? This post got CPU-Z two screen shots. and 3500Mhz shot
is mine. Yeah, I have X3 720 Black Edition and I make My X3 720BE to Quadcore.

So, I'll be make MOV files and liked it. So, That U can be Trust?


Hey go for it.

All I can say about this is the possibility seems to be there but the problem is that ACC is mobo side and the disabled core is normally CPU side. Hell sometimes they burn the bad core out.

And even if it is true being able to load Prime 95 doesn't mean a damn thing. When I had my Q6600@ 3GHz but my memory was at too low voltage I could load Prime 95 no problem. But let it actually run and show what kind of errors you will get.

At first the errors wont be bad but this will lead to corrupted data and eventually that disabled core that was meant to not work would cause a needed system file/driver to be corrupted and bam. The entire OS install is screwed or the data leads to the lovely BSoD.

BTW Spath here is a actual CPU-Z screenie for the Phenom II 940:



And the 720 X3:



Thing is it does show it as a AM2+ CPU and also the thing about BOTH of the posters CPU-Z shots is that they are using version 1.50 and the 7 in the 720 is missing yet in version 1.49 in the pics I linked they show the full 720.

Also one of his lower CPU-Z shots says 1.50.1 and the other says 1.50.

TBH, I find it extremely hard to believe that a SB/mobo side setting that actually controls the calibration between the CPU and the SB for better OCing would allow for the disabled core to unlock when normally the core is locked on the well CPU itself. Thats like if it was a Celeron with lower cache having a setting in the BIOS that somehow activates the cache. Just not easily believeable.
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February 23, 2009 4:03:16 AM

its BS jimmy don't waste your time.

genaii said:
720be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8500


america >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> korea. get over it.
February 23, 2009 4:10:54 AM

hey dudu..
Why u don't trust??
It's true..
U think korean is lier or?
Just imagine..
Why we post this issue on this site..
we just wanted to share of that information..
after 1 person succeed to change core..
he posted on korea hardware community site which called 'Parkoz'
after people know that inf.. lots of people tried to buy it..
with motherboard.. which has 750 sb,able to change acc core voltage..
like asrock790gx,??? and so on..
now more that 5 people success to change quadcore..
from heca710,720be ..
hey dudu..
we r not lier..
also we don't need to lie..as u know today is not First of April..
dudu..
open your mind..

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February 23, 2009 4:19:22 AM

maybe cuz i have a brain and im not gullible? or maybe its cuz ive been on the internet for awhile now and fools like you are the norm. probably both.
February 23, 2009 4:42:19 AM

it's up to u..believe it or not..

but don't think korean is lier..

in this post we didn't do the any cheat and lie..

that's the point..
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