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November 30, 2008 8:19:46 PM

I am a first time builder and I have assembled the pieces I would like to buy for a new gaming PC. I have already gone and saved the configuration from newegg. I would just love for someone to view this and tell me if I have the configuration correct (see if I have not mismatched anything) and I am doing a good configuration for my money. I am hoping to not upgrade for at least a couple of years. I really appreciate your input:

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz
LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600

ASUS P5Q-E LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard

G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM
DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit (F2-6400CL4D-4GBPI-B)

ASUS EAH4850 TOP/HTDI/512M Radeon
HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS
500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI 600W ATX12V SLI
Certified CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply

ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model DRW-2014L1T

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November 30, 2008 8:30:22 PM

Looks good! Looks like you have done your homework. What OS do you plan to run? Be aware that 32 bit Windows is limited to 3.5GB RAM. If going for 64 bit make sure you have drivers for your printer,etc for x64.

Do you plan to OC?
November 30, 2008 8:46:47 PM

Thank you so much Shadow for your fast response. I plan to dual (or triple) boot it with vista/XP/Ubuntu. I know about the memory limitation with 32 bit Windows and don't mind it while using XP.

As far as drivers, I don't have many accessories (no printer etc.), however, do I need to see if the components I am buying (such as the graphics card etc.) are supported in 64 bit, or is it obvious that they support it?

Currently, I plan to use the system as it is with out over clocking it. I am new to the whole building/oc business :) . However, in a few months, I hope I will be able to OC it some.... Do you think I would be able to gain much from it?

Thank you,
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November 30, 2008 9:07:02 PM

Cool! Thank you Colegade! I know I probably will be posting back when I am ready to OC. Do you think I will need to do any Bios settings when I build the system (even though I will not be OCing)? If so, where is a decent place to start reading on how to configure it?
a b 4 Gaming
November 30, 2008 9:28:17 PM

Only a few tweaks that I'd consider, otherwise the build looks pretty good:
* Consider a different case to save some $. The Cooler Master 690 is cheaper and just as good if not better than the Antec 900. Also consider the Antec 300. It's a bit smaller, but still very capable case for less!
$83 shipped!! CM690 case from Buy.com!
Newegg's link for the CM690 case. Just more expensive, but link has more details than the Buy.com link!
$54 shipped! Antec 300 case which is currently MUCH cheaper than Newegg's price!
Newegg's link for the Antec 300 case.

* Other PSU's to conisider. OCZ does a decent job, but I prefer Antec, Corsair, Seasonic, PCP&C PSU's over OCZ's.
$95-$35 MIR = $60!! PCP&C 610w PSU! Has 2 x 6 pin PCI-e power connectors, >80% efficient, 49A on the 12v rail, and has 5 yr. warranty too!
$95-$30 MIR = $65!! Corsair 650tx PSU! Has 2 x 6+2pin PCI-e power connectors, >80% efficient, 52A on the 12v rail, and a 5 yr. warranty too!
Newegg's link for the 650tx, just is $5 more than Buy.com's link.
* HD - For about $5 more go with the 640 gb version, especially since your going to have 3 partitioins!
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
November 30, 2008 9:40:29 PM

Thank you the lunyone ( :D  nice screen name). I got the antec case for $59!!! last week from newegg (they were having some sale). I was not able to find a cheaper PSU - thank you for your tip. I think I will go with the $60 one. Thank you!!!
a b 4 Gaming
November 30, 2008 9:58:34 PM

CodeZion said:
Thank you the lunyone ( :D  nice screen name). I got the antec case for $59!!! last week from newegg (they were having some sale). I was not able to find a cheaper PSU - thank you for your tip. I think I will go with the $60 one. Thank you!!!

YVW! :)  What $60 PSU did you go with?
a b 4 Gaming
November 30, 2008 10:36:22 PM

NICE!! It's a very dependable and reliable PSU and should last you at least 5 yrs.!! Glad I able to help you out on the some of the parts!!
November 30, 2008 10:45:18 PM

+1 for the PP&C 610 and WD 640GB AAKS
December 14, 2008 2:29:40 AM

Hi guys,

You will be happy to know that I just finished building the system! Awesome cool machine:) . I just installed the 64 bit Vista MSDN and everything seems to be working fine - except with IE7 crashing on certain sites (I know who cares where there is Mozilla). However, it looks like some application cannot be installed either (such as Picasa). But everything else seems to be working fine. I am not sure if this is the right spot to ask for help...Could a bad ram cause such a behavior?

Thanks guys...(one of these days I will post a pic of my machine :) )
December 14, 2008 11:23:53 AM

^ Try, running those installation.exe files under Compatibility mode for XP.

Try, memtest86+ for RAM testing. 8+hrs is good enough.
December 14, 2008 1:31:42 PM

Thanks Shadow! I did a memtest with UBCD right after I built it and did only one pass (nothing like 8hrs). I will re-run it tonight and let it be for 8 + and let you know what the results are. I will also try installing the apps under compatibility mode for XP and let you know.

Thanks!!!
December 14, 2008 3:31:02 PM

I forgot to mention: when I first run the memtest in UBCD, I had to run it twice to get a pass (the first trial created more than 100 thousand errors starting about 7%, the next run locked up at 22%, then the third trial was a success without any errors). If I have an error, what does it mean? Do I need to return the ram or does it mean I have a wrong setup (HW or BIOS)?

Thanks,
December 14, 2008 5:37:28 PM

^ Do you have the correct RAM voltages set in the BIOS? If memtest86+ throws errors that's bad.
December 14, 2008 8:58:33 PM

Thanks for you all your help! I went into the BIOS and checked on the voltage and timing of the RAM. Both were set to Auto and I changed it to the what G-skill said:

Changed Voltage to 1.9v (the are rated at 1.8~1.9)
Changed timing to 4-4-4-12 as rated

I started running memtest86+ about 1.5 hrs ago and it has finished 3 passes with 2 errors. It appears that both errors are at the same position (please look her for my screen shot I took after pass 2: http://cid-d5c64934665670ec.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx...|_2086.JPG)

At this point, do I RMA my RAM or is there any setting I should check? Also is my RAM speed (401MHz) correct since my FSB is reported as 267MHz?

Thanks for all your help again!


December 14, 2008 9:00:29 PM

Sorry here is the linK:
December 15, 2008 10:29:46 AM

Try 5-5-5-15. Imo, you might need to RMA that RAM :( 
December 15, 2008 12:55:28 PM

Shadow, thanks for the input. I was able to get rid of the errors by increasing the Voltage to 2.0 (0.1 above what is on the packaging of the RAM). I saw a guy who was OC'ing and running these rams at 2.02V, so I thought 2.0 should not be that bad. What do you think? Should I RMA it?
December 16, 2008 1:21:36 PM

That is a relief! :) . Thanks a lot for all your help! I install a dual boot XP and that does not have any problem at all. The vista still have some issues with IE and I am hoping it is the build that I have (hopefully the SP2 coming out today will fix it).

I really appreciate it - all my answers are now answered :) .
December 16, 2008 6:50:20 PM

^Good luck. Mind posting some pics if possible?
December 19, 2008 11:13:07 AM

^Nice. Clean up the cabling a bit and also get a G5/G9 mouse when you have the money. :)  . Trust me. A good mouse makes a lot of difference.
December 19, 2008 11:20:53 AM

Thanks! Yeah...the cabling is untidy. I think they were a tad short for me to route...some of them are even crisscrossing the mobo. I will try again to clea it up.
You noticed my $20 keyboard and mouse :) . I am so broke right now, I cannot afford anything (that machine broke my back :) ) - but the G5 and G9 are looking soooo good! Thanks for tip as always mate!
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