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December 2, 2008 6:13:17 AM

Hi,

I'm willing to build a new gaming rigs but my budget allows me to spend only less than 1.2k.

This is my specs:
CPU - C2D E8500
MB - DFI LanParty LT/UT X48-T2R 671/709 or other brands which best suited for OC (Rampage Formula?)
GPU - 4870/4870 1gb/4870x2
RAM - Kingston DDR2 HyperX kit 1066 1x4gb/2x4gb
Casing ?
PS ?


My purpose for building this is, indeed 100% gaming and I know my budget is too low, but sad :(  I couldn't afford it more.
The main thing I'm confusing about is, which GPU should I use for gaming? Unless you all recommend seriously 4870x2, I don't want to choose it because it's pricey and also, in future, when its price drops, I'm still able to grab and add on as CrossFire though the existing one is not the same exact model...right ? So, now what I want is simple, atm I buy one GPU and later when games are demanding higher specs, I'll just grab another one...What do you think ?

One more thing, which motherboard should I use for gaming + OC ? I don't want DDR3 yet because it's still too early and I think another 2/3 years using DDR2 MB and RAM is still enough for games.

Thanks in advance & forgive about my English :D 
a b 4 Gaming
December 2, 2008 9:19:57 AM

Yes, just get a single 4870 1GB for now. Preferably the Sapphire card that has the better cooling solution:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The boards that are BEST suited to overclocking are the P45 boards. So, you have to decide... many overclockers choose to use a P45 board to crossfire.

I would say though, that unless you are a very serious overclocker, the x48 Rampage Formula should be your choice.

Get 2x2GB low voltage RAM. G. Skill makes an 1100Mhz kit that runs at 1.8 - 1.9V

Antec 300, 900, or 1200 are good choices for a case.

You will need at least the Corsair 750TX PSU. You can find other suggestions in my parts list, but a high quality 750W would be the minimum.


My guide
My big list of parts
December 2, 2008 11:29:44 AM

tom's has a $1250 build, that is nice.
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December 2, 2008 11:30:34 AM

Thanks so much Proximon...your advice so much mean to me but now my mind changed again after I heard from my friends :p 

They suggest me Motherboard is not too important when I consider about my budget, it just need stability for situations like OC, running with SLI/CF, two or more different RAM vendors/speed and so on. The only thing I should bear in mind is, stability. So, they suggested me not to choose latest greatest ones, instead, just choose the one that has good reputation + stability with different brands. These are the words they mind me for MB. But still confusing hehe :p 

Is it correct ? I know each component plays different role but isn't GPU the above all factor for gaming rigs ?

So, how about I choose 4870x2 and decent P45 MB like P5Q-E ?
December 2, 2008 11:48:29 AM

How about i7?

LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model iHAS120-04 - OEM
Model #:iHAS120-04
Item #:N82E16827106263
Return Policy:Limited 30-Day Return Policy
$23.99 $23.99

NZXT Apollo Black SECC Steel Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #:Apollo BLACK NP
Item #:N82E16811146025
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
$89.99 $89.99

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #:WD6400AAKS
Item #:N82E16822136218
Return Policy:Limited 30-Day Return Policy
$74.99 -$5.00 Instant $69.99

POWERCOLOR AX4870 512MD5-PPH Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
Model #:AX4870 512MD5-PPH
Item #:N82E16814131117
Return Policy:Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy
$249.99 -$40.00 Instant $209.99

Antec True Power Trio TP3-650 650W ATX12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply with Three 12V Rails - Retail
Model #:TP3-650
Item #:N82E16817371001
Return Policy:Limited 30-Day Return Policy
$129.99 -$30.00 Instant $99.99

G.SKILL 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9T-3GBNQ - Retail
Model #:F3-10666CL9T-3GBNQ
Item #:N82E16820231222
Return Policy:Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy
$109.99 $109.99

ASUS P6T Deluxe LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #:p 6T Deluxe
Item #:N82E16813131346
Return Policy:Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy
$299.99 $299.99

Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
Model #:BX80601920
Item #:N82E16819115202
Return Policy:p rocessors (CPUs) Return Policy
$299.99 $299.99

Subtotal: $1,203.92

December 2, 2008 11:51:49 AM

Here is Tom's core2duo, if you don't want i7:

$1250 Mid-Range System Components Component Model Price (USD)
CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 190
CPU Cooler Xigmatek HDT-S1283 (& ACK-I7751 Retention Bracket) 42
Motherboard DFI LanParty X38-T2R 175
RAM PNY XLR8 2 x 4GB 60
Graphics Powercolor Radeon 4870 X2 529
Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar black 640GB 32 MB cache 85
Sound Integrated 0
Network Integrated Gigabit Networking 0
Case Antec Three Hundred 55
Power Antec Neo 650W 90
Optical LITE-ON 20X DVD±R SATA Model iHAS120-04 24
Total Price $1,250
December 2, 2008 12:17:24 PM

hmm nice specs evongugg but isn't a bit focused on CPU(I mean i7) instead of GPU ? which I think not good choice for gaming though it seems decent for OC ? I worry this because I have such experience with my laptop.

This is what I'm facing :(  I bought Acer Aspire Gem 4920g laptop 1year ago and it came with C2D 2.0gHz, 2gb and 8600m GT DDR2. I was not very satisfied with that because even games like CnC3, Warhammer Online, cannot run at stable fps(25-40) at max settings with native resolution. So, I thought higher specs would solve and so, bought Dell XPS 1530 again. This time with C2D 2.5hz, 4gb, but still 256mb 8600m gt DDR3. Because of that, the results are not so different. I can set a little bit higher and get 2/3 fps but, haven't met what I wanted yet :( 
If in case you may wonder why I didn't choose 17" gaming laptops, because it'd be too heavy for my height 5'7" :p 


I'm still considering it but some say x38 MBs are a bit outdated and disappearing soon ?
December 2, 2008 2:48:32 PM

Hi guys, thank you all for your helpful suggestions. Now I've reached my final decision :D 

I'll stick with X38/X48 MB with single GPU(not 4870x2 :p ) because I think most games don't require higher than 1x4870. And also, because X48 supports much better for CF, I can still able to add another one in future, right?

Can you please suggest me once more which one is best at performance + price ?
MB bundled with CPU E8500
1 - DFI LanParty DK X38-T2R = 366
2 - Asus Rampage Formula = 534
3 - Giga GA-X48T-DQ6 = 530

What do you think ? Should I use 2x4850 or single normal 4870 and wait for its price drop ?
GPU
1 - Sapphire 4870 512mb = 263
2 - 2xSapphire 4850 512mb = 328

LCD - Samsung 20" 2033SW = 163
HDD - WD 640gb = 90
Optical Drive - Samsung SHS223F = 31
RAM - Kingston HyperX 2x4gb = 130
PSU - Corsair TX750 = 146
Case - NZXT Tempest = 115
CPU Cooler - Xigmatek HDT-S1284 = 55

So, the total will be $730 without MB&CPU + GPU.

Suggest me if you think that something is better so that it'll fit into my budget range or so your preference please. I'll go grab them tomorrow - Tee Hee :p  Can't wait for days if I order through online really :p 
December 2, 2008 3:12:08 PM

Actually the I7 isn't bad for gaming, its just designed for an enterprise envoriment. Its only a little bit better than a q9550 processor in terms of a single gpu for gaming. If you plan on sli/cf, then really think hard about the i7. Its a great processor when dealing with sli/cf setups. Really get a good preformance boost vs the q9550 and E8500. This also will allow you to not be stuck with just ati cards for cf. You can also use nvidia cards such as the GTX 260 (216 core).

Might also want to look at this PSU: Its a bit cheaper and preforms at the same level as a crosair one. Both are excelent choices though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also can save a few bucks going with G. skill 2X2gbs. Probally don't need all 8gbs.

Your current monitor is rated for 1600x900 screen resolution. So you deffinatly will not need a cf/sli setup. Probally can get away with just a single 4850. Might want to look into even just one gtx260 to be sure. Might want to take another look at your monitor choice and see if you can find a 1900x1200.

Don't forget you'll need a 64bit OS unless you already have this coverd?
a b 4 Gaming
December 2, 2008 8:46:08 PM

The ASUS Rampage Formula is going to be the best choice for overclocking.

If the PC P&C PSU is less or the same price, you definitely want that over the Corsair. Even if it's just a bit more.

I think your plan for a single 4870 is best for now.


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