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Memory And FSB Not the same why ?

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Hello guys , I have a question .
My uncle bought new PC which i recommend him , And i set everythig .
Now

In bios The FSB IS 266 (CPU IS E74000)
SO 266 X 10,5 = 2.8GHz
Memory i installed DDR2 800 X2 Chips

And i know it supposed to run at 1066 mhz cause ddr2 533 will be enough so why does it runs still at 800MHz and not as the FSB 1066 ?

Thanks for any help .
But it

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EP43-UD3L s775 C2Q 1333Mhz

CPU
E7400

Mem
Kingstone
DDR2 800 Value

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There's absolutely noting wrong. DDR2 800 MHz corresponds to the fastest JEDEC specifications. I wouldn't overclock that Kingston RAM. Your system will become unstable unless you increase voltage and relax timings. If your system is stable, then just leave it as is (at least as far as memory is concerned).

Reply to GhislainG

You bought 800 ram so its running 800, if you wanted the ram to run 1066, you should have bought 1066 ram.

You could try to overclock the ram by setting it manually to 1066 in the Bios, but the odds are it will not work.

Reply to daship

Thanks for the reply guys .
But maby i missed somthing here .

Cause Intel works At QDR Tech , So 1066 MHZ FSB Together with Dual Channel DDr2 533 X2 should work at 1066 FSB .

Or i miss somthing here ?

Reply to DuDuS

While the CPU and memory buses could operate at the same frequency, they don't have to. See Wikipedia for good explanations of the difference between the two: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_side_bus#Memory

DDR2 533 MHz is 266 MHz x 2. DDR2 1066 is 533 Mhz x 2. DDR2 1066 memory often is overclocked 800 MHz memory that requires more voltage and lower timings.

Reply to GhislainG

I know that they dont have to be the same , But back in the time that the Rambus memory i had P4 System with .

CPU That works at 800Mhz FSB (200X4)
and dual channel Rdram 400MHz (each) X 2 together with dual channel creted 800MHz Syncronize FSB with memory bus ....

SO is this change ?
I mean i was thinking that for 1066FSB , A memory at 533MHz X 2 Chips In dual channel will create 1066MHz FSB , Isnt it ?

Or for the fsb and memory bus work the same the memory must be equal to the Fsb ?

Example 1066FSB need 1066 DDR memory ?

Reply to DuDuS

A memory at 533MHz X 2 Chips In dual channel will create 1066MHz FSB , Isnt it ?

The answer is no. The FSB speed is set from your motherboard BIOS and not from you installing two memory modules. If that was the case, I could install two 1066 MHz modules and expect my system to run at 2132 FSB?

You installed DDR2 800 MHz memory so they will run at 400 MHz stock without OC'ing just like all DDR2 mudules are designed to do.

Reply to HundredIslandsBoy

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If that was the case, I could install two 1066 MHz modules and expect my system to run at 2132 FSB?



Thats not even close to what i meant .
My point is that the fsb determine by the cpu and bios , So if the cpu support 2132 fsb and the board so 2132 /2 chips should give the full fsb support .
But thats not true as much as i see now , cause back in the RDRAM that was the case .

I see now that for 1066 fsb i need mem that operate at the same as fsb to get full sync ..

Thanks all for the help .

Reply to DuDuS

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I see now that for 1066 fsb i need mem that operate at the same as fsb to get full sync ..

But the performance improvement with 10600 MHz memory will be 0-1.5% at most. Is it really worth it? Spending money on a faster CPU or GPU usually is a better investment.

Reply to GhislainG

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But the performance improvement with 10600 MHz memory will be 0-1.5% at most.



May i ask where did you get this info ? , I mean what will be the memory bandwidth with 1066 Fsb And 1066 Mem.
Compare to 1066Fsb and 800Mhz mem ?
Assuming the parts are the same .

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pending money on a faster CPU or GPU usually is a better investment.


I agree with that , And that is what i've done , It just that i had misunderstanding with the mem compare the fsb (that they not sync together) .

Reply to DuDuS

If it's the same memory (and it often is), then the timings might be 4-4-4-12 at 800 MHz and 5-5-5-15 at 1066 MHz. The higher timings offset part of the performance gains. Besides, you can overclock quality 800 MHz memory yourself. Just increase the voltage and timings and make sure that it's stable. It might not reach 1066 MHz, but it could run very close to it and it's free.

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