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Ok I have a Sapphire HD 4870 with 1GB of memory, a Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16ghz and 2gb of ram.
All my games are running terribly slow, for instance I've turned all the settings down on world of warcraft to the lowest they can go and my computer still gets a framerate of around 10fps.
With a graphics card of this caliber the other parts surely couldn't be having such a detrimental effect on the performance so I figured it should really be the graphics card.
I'm seriously considering a reinstall of windows in case it's a software problem so all help is appreciated.

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What other games have you got?

I could easily disable one gpu and simulate having the same gpu, although I have more ram and a slightly faster cpu which could of course be downclocked if you want i can give a comparison.

Which version of windows are you running?

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have you run 3dmark06 on it, might help pinpoint the problem a little? detailed scores please. cpu/sm2&3

have you tried reinstalling the ati drivers?

what kind of temps are you getting under load? cpu/gpu

anything weird showing up on cpu-z or gpu-z?

malware/spyware/viruses?

other processes that are eating up cpu resources? high kernel usage? hardware conflicts etc?

Reply to Kari

Don't have 3dmark06, can you point me to it please.
Yeah I've downloaded new drivers.
My cpu's temp is constantly below 30 degrees C.
I did a virus scan yesterday to no avail.
And there doesn't appear to be anything eating up my system resources.
In reply to the question about games, I have call of duty 4 which has had its performance halved since about a week ago, left 4 dead, which i can't seem to run on any settings without a ridiculously low fps, crysis I haven't checked, doom 3 seems to be terribly laggy and css gets about 30 fps.

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I'm on XP Professional 32-bit.

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3dmark06, you'll only need the basic free version
http://www.futuremark.com/benchmar [...] roduction/

Reply to Kari

Oki doki I have about 30 min more on the download, as a bit of extra info I got my processor 2 days ago for christmas, and that appears to be when it started to go really downhill, but I have no idea why because the processor I was using before hand was an old Pentium D @ 3.0ghz...

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Does your mobo support your proc?

Download cpu-z and make sure your cpu is being reported correctly.

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Reply to strangestranger

Did you change your CPU and GPU without re-installing windows?

WHY?

Bit-rot alone is a good reason to blow out an install every 3-6 months, but such a dramatic change, you gotta rebuild man, even driver cleaner isn't going to get your system running near optimal compared to a fresh start.

Back up your essentials and then clean install.

But also like SS says, make sure you don't also have major hardware conflicts also.

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nothing better than starting fresh :bounce:


Message edited by kelfen on 12-27-2008 at 01:42:03 PM
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Ok cheers guys, I'll dl cpu-z and then reinstall windows after ive checked its all compatible.
I think it should be compatible as my mobo supports crossfire but i dunno, I'll take a look.
Thanks for all the help.

Reply to Anonymous

Ok cpu-z isn't showing much about my processor... I'll take a printscreen.

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Yep, either your going ot need a bios update if one exists or a new mobo entirely.

For one thing, it is running at only 1ghz, C2D are good, but not that good.

What mobo is it?

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ConRoeXFire-eSATA2...
I feel so mad I didn't check this before...

Reply to Anonymous

will running it atm cause damage to the cpu because if so I'm gonna switch to my old processor pronto.

Reply to Anonymous

Ye, it is very old. Doesn't support the FSB and most likely only 65nm procs, not the newer 45nm which your one is.

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ah. heres my issue. supports: - FSB 1066/800/533 MHz
damn it.

Reply to Anonymous

right cheers, ill put in the old one and think about how im gonna sort this out.

Reply to Anonymous

That i can't tell you, i wouldn't have thought so as the voltage is low and not going to do any harm.

My advice would be look for maybe a p45 or x48 mobo that ain't too expensive, that way you can keep your ram and everything else and you should have a good system.

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http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview. [...] ire-eSATA2
hmm it only supports 1066MHz bus and E8500 uses 1333

might work if manually overclocked the board to run at 1333FSB (333MHz for real)

bios update sounds like a really good move at this point...

Reply to Kari
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whoops was I late....

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and +1 for P45 mobo, can't go wrong with one of those

Reply to Kari

so i need a sata2, pci-e supporting mobo with an fsb support for 1333mhz....
rage

Reply to Anonymous

what are the g31 chip mobos like?

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I'm on a bit of a budget so what does this one look like?
http://www.cclonline.com/product-i [...] &tid=i-g31
seems to support all my parts at a glance.

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quite good, I'd think
I have G33 running E6550 at 450FSB (3,15GHz), thats 1800 quadpumped

but you dont really need the integrated graphics on it.... good to have as a back up I guess

Reply to Kari
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should be decent enough
but boy, is that abit board ugly, lol, nasty colours

and abit is pulling out of the mobo business, so support might be a bit scarce...

Reply to Kari

its the cheapest 1333mhz supporting one they have so im not too bothered about the integrated graphics.
on another note, i have a big typh 120 cooler which has a backplate stuckto the mobo, just wondering if i can reuse this in any shape or form... not really wanting to spend more money than i have to.

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the back plate should come off quite easily, they are usually just plugged into those screw holes. maybe a bit of doubblesided tape in between

Reply to Kari

yeah theres tape, but ill give it a shot.
thanks for all the help guys, probably gonna go get that motherboard within the hour, just waiting for my dad to get back from whatever it is hes doing.

Reply to Anonymous

If you wanna be cheap, but still good, I would go for a P43 instead.

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