Low FPS on Radeon HD 3870

Looks about where it should be.

Retard. Comparing apples to oranges again.

Roadrunner, you always have great comments and insight in your posts. But your people skills are going to bite you on the arse if they haven't already.

I think what roadrunner was trying to say is that whatever the strengths of a 2.2 GHz Phenom might be, it unfortunately will bottleneck your 3870 compared to a 3.3 GHz dual core. I agree that you are getting about the framerates that you should be getting. Overclocking your Phenom should result in direct increases though. The rule of thumb I have heard is that you need to have >2.5 GHz to run modern games, with >3.0 being preferred--regardless of Intel/AMD, architecture, etc.

Good luck!

medium settings and high settings are quite a bit differant though.
medium settings are like souped up Farcry detail pretty much

high settings are goregeous
veryhigh isnt a WHOLE lot differant looking than high

I bought a mis-represented 3870 about six month's ago. ( advertised as a 512/1gig card when in reality it was a 256/1gig card ) I tried to play COD4 @ 16x10. It was choppy and unplayable. ( ghili suit ) You're trying to play a game that almost no setup, ( lest high end gear ) can play at all. You're going to have to lower your resolution and in game settings in order to play the game......... and with that card and processor....... forget it anyways. Don't rely on benchmarks because that's all they are...... benchmarks. The real world will tell a different story. You'll need to over clock the heck out of the processor to get enough speed to stop the unplayability ( this is where Intel comes in ) and you'll also need to upgrade the video card or you'll have to play at unreasonable settings and accept what you get.

Seems to me your jealous, cause you dont know what you are doing.

TLB Bug FIX!!!!!!!!! That would be my first guess as to what your problem is. At stock clocks my Radeon 3850 and Athlon 5000 X2 were just fine with crysis on medium settings. I played most of the game on med-high settings, but just set everything to medium for some certain areas of the game.

Anyway you need to go into your BIOS and see if it has the TLB Bug FIX. If it does dissable it. You should only need to enable it if you ever want to turn that thing into a server and absolutly need 100% up time. Hey people do strange things. Also, did you update your drivers or did you just update CCC? Make sure that you have downloaded the complete driver set and that you uninstall the old drivers first.

tushe... looks like someone finally got a card to compete with the big guys
anyways, i dont need some ghey paper route, i do homes advertising and get a decent sum of money.
20-30FPS on HD res is fine for me. im not gonna put hundreds of dollars into the newest technology out. i wait till its cheaper, then purchase. im sure your gonna feel really stupid with your 4850x2 once it drops down into the 3870x2 price range.

my rig can last for awhile IMO. im upgrading to a phenomII in a few months anywayz

ok, sounds good

Im just curious is only crysis acting up or is it all your games?
I have had a similar issues once it was resolved by reinstalling drivers and reinstalling the game give that a shot.
crysis is a very resourceful my gtx260 sli was just barely able to max out crysis @ 1680x1050 with 16aa.

"Can both of you get along" =]

I would say my avg fps would be about 30-32fps. During big battles it drops to about 25fps just for a few sec but its very playable. It even hits 40+fps sometimes lol.
=]

yes, i OCed both my 3870s. i must say, they have some great potential. my 3870s are HIS Iceq3 design. i set the clocks to 850core and 1250MEM
what type of 3870 do you have?

mine are visiontek hd 3870 (heres a pic http://www.slashgear.com/gallery/d [...] eview.jpg) ntoice the huge cooling pipes and nice fan

might as well give OCing a try, i mean, all you have to do is open CCC

Please try this, it will help for Crysis (I assume that's what game you're getting those FPS):

http://www.incrysis.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=23117

I think i know what the problem is-its that crysis isnt well optimized for x64, because i can set COD4 on 4xaa, full turned up trilinear filtering, and highest settings on everything, and i get above 80fps, but i can go and play CS:S and my framerates will go below 25. When i had win xp, i would get above 30fps average for crysis, and now im averaging 13fps on it...DX 10 is not that huge of a change...i guess im gonna try downgrading to vista 32 bit and see the differences (although i can only use 3gb of ram then ) wish me luck
(unless, that is, someone can think of something better to do...)

I hate to add my two cents here because the discussion has become somewhat bitter. That said, you probably are getting about the frame rates that you should be getting like RR said. You are also saying that in other benching type programs you are about where you should be, ie 3dmark06. I am surprised that you can get as high as 11k in 3dmark06 That seems to be on the high side for a 2,2ghz cpu, even though 3dmark like 4 cores over 2 cores. Are you able to over clock your CPU? Is the TBL patch present in the bios? Is the computer clean and free of malware/botnets etc? Correct setting in bios for VC power etc? Have you tried the hot fix for the ATI driver? Your cpu is 2.2ghz at stock settings and you are comparing it to a tested system at 2.66ghz which is also a clean installed system with no extra software running no anti-virus or and clock sucking extra programs running. That tested system is running as well as the testers can make it. Most of us do not have a system like that. We have a general purpose rigs and not a pure test bed. Insure that the system is totally clean of malware. Maybe even try a reinstall of you OS along with drivers. As stated before you don't need to install the patch for the TBL. I see that newegg no longer lists your cpu. Will your MB support a 9950 be? Or any of the BE phenoms?

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Just a polite note to Rambo, you said you have a C2D running at 3.3ghz which is a world of difference in that it is running 1.1ghz faster than the OPs cpu, a full 1/3 faster all things being equal his scores might be 1/3 lower. You got 20-30 he's getting 15fps.

15?.......15?........Rambo you are 15?

I was going to write a long rant about youth and inexperience, but I thought better of it.

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Grant I guess you could as some have stated completely redo you system. I still think that if you can get your ghz system rate up you'll have the fps you want providing that everything is working correctly otherwise. You could OC or perhaps drop in a new cpu. Try the over clock route first. I have one of these and it is working very well. 15.2k 3dmark06 with one video card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103291

Tell us how the tweaks and such work out

I'm going to go to frys and buy an aftermarket CPU heatsink (I'm still on stock ) then I'll try to OC my cpu to around 3ghz, then if that doesn't make much of an fps diff on Crysis or 3Dmark, I'll try to OC the gpu (I bought my phenom for $100 in april lol ) then if none of that works, I'll buy a phenom 920 or 940 when they come out (which will hopefully be soon )

haha, when i went to frys I saw my CPU selling for $59...I was thinking about buying one and selling it on Ebay for $100 Anyways, frys was out of stock on AM2+ CPU heatsinks, so I went ahead and ordered one off of newegg (probably better & cheaper than what Frys had to offer, I'm just impatient (heres the heatsink I bought, (forum messed up link for some reason....) I should be getting it on Mon or Tuesday...I'll post teh ub3r OC results after that...(at least I know even if something goes HORRIBLY wrong I only lost $59 )


teh fixed link, consider buying one if you have an amd CPU and want a good cheap heatsink....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835185125

you do know that the 4670 is like the direct replacement and performance wise on par witha 3870??? just letting you know...at least that is what i read somewhere on the internet

OK, so after 12 days I FINALLY GOT the new HS for my proc (I usually <3 newegg but theyr shipping took over 9 days when it was guaranteed 3 day shipping...I blame UPS...) anyways, at first it was kind of hard to put in (the clip took around 30 mins to FINALLY put in after a last ditch brute-force method...) I am currently running 32-36c idle and no more than 51c on full load from prime95 from stock 50-55idle and ALL the way up to 71c max while on p95...I expect the temps to imrpove as the thermal grease (that was included with the HS ) hardens (maybe a few more degrees c =P) Anyways, I am going to start posting the results here in around 1-3 hours...I'm going to start at core voltage, then steadily rise up until I hit a bottleneck..then run a benchmark on Crysis on highest stable OC and if theres any fps gain ill post it (at least noticeable...hopefully...) Ive seen a lot of forums post that Phenom (especially 9500) isnt a good OC... wish me luck XD

3870 cant get 11k in 3d mark vantage

maybe on 06 or 05 !!!