Low FPS on Radeon HD 3870

[grant64330]

I have a visiontek radeon hd 3870 and ever since i got crysis it got VERY low fps on it (as in10-15fps high or very high 0xAA 1280x1024 and no more than24fps at everything low) At first i though "wtf its probably drivers or something...(i get around 90-100fps on COD4 and around 60fps on Fallout 3) so i updated to CCC 8.12, and that didnt really change anything...i looked at a lot of reviews and all of them say that it should get at least 20fps on high or very high (on low its supposed to be 50fps average with no AA...) this is one of the benchmarks that ive seen showing what i should be getting... http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/visiontekhd3870/13.html. I dont think its my PSU, its 700 watts, and i get around 11k on 3dmark vantage. My cards oced to 800mhz at stock, i havent tried ocing it any more (i havent tried ocing anything on my system yet)


my specs are:

Phenom 9500
8gb pc6400
Asus M3A
400gb 7200 rpm HD


Heres a pic i took of my gpu specs (according to GPU-Z) http://s414.photobucket.com/albums/pp228/grant64330/?action=view&current=GPU-ZRadeonHD3870specs.gif

 

[roadrunner197069]

Looks about where it should be.

 

[rambo117]

Looks about where it should be.

no, it doesnt. when i used to have 1 3870, i was getting around 20-30FPS on all high settings at 1280x1024
but i also have a 3.3GHZ dualcore

have you tried overclocking your phenom?
might help considering that the 9500 is only clocked @ 2.2ghz

 

[roadrunner197069]

no, it doesnt. when i used to have 1 3870, i was getting around 20-30FPS on all high settings at 1280x1024
but i also have a 3.3GHZ dualcore

have you tried overclocking your phenom?
might help considering that the 9500 is only clocked @ 2.2ghz

Retard. Comparing apples to oranges again.

 

[rambo117]

what the hell are you even talking about?
just trying to give the guy a little help and idiots like you come along and get all offended if their oppinions are challenged.
get off the forums if ur not gonna help

 

[husky mctarflash]

Roadrunner, you always have great comments and insight in your posts. But your people skills are going to bite you on the arse if they haven't already.

I think what roadrunner was trying to say is that whatever the strengths of a 2.2 GHz Phenom might be, it unfortunately will bottleneck your 3870 compared to a 3.3 GHz dual core. I agree that you are getting about the framerates that you should be getting. Overclocking your Phenom should result in direct increases though. The rule of thumb I have heard is that you need to have >2.5 GHz to run modern games, with >3.0 being preferred--regardless of Intel/AMD, architecture, etc.

Good luck!

 

[geotech]

My Socket 939 2.0GHz and 3850 could play Medium at 35-40fps @1440x900. Somethings wrong on your end.

 

[rambo117]

medium settings and high settings are quite a bit differant though.
medium settings are like souped up Farcry detail pretty much

high settings are goregeous
veryhigh isnt a WHOLE lot differant looking than high

 

[jumpmaster]

I have a hd3870 and just upgraded from a phenom 9500 @ 2.5 to a q6600 @ 3.2. With the phenom, Crysis was unplayable on medium settings at 1920x1200, now Im enjoying everything on high with no lag. Same goes for RA3. My 3dmark06 increased to about 12500 from 9000. I think you are CPU limited and are getting the right fps for your system. If you have a AM2+ motherboard then you should upgrade to a phenom II when they come out to get increased performance. The 3870 is powerful enough to run all games maxed out even at high resolution.

 

[swifty_morgan]

I bought a mis-represented 3870 about six month's ago. ( advertised as a 512/1gig card when in reality it was a 256/1gig card ) I tried to play COD4 @ 16x10. It was choppy and unplayable. ( ghili suit ) You're trying to play a game that almost no setup, ( lest high end gear ) can play at all. You're going to have to lower your resolution and in game settings in order to play the game......... and with that card and processor....... forget it anyways. Don't rely on benchmarks because that's all they are...... benchmarks. The real world will tell a different story. You'll need to over clock the heck out of the processor to get enough speed to stop the unplayability ( this is where Intel comes in ) and you'll also need to upgrade the video card or you'll have to play at unreasonable settings and accept what you get.

 

[rambo117]

I have a hd3870 and just upgraded from a phenom 9500 @ 2.5 to a q6600 @ 3.2. With the phenom, Crysis was unplayable on medium settings at 1920x1200, now Im enjoying everything on high with no lag. Same goes for RA3. My 3dmark06 increased to about 12500 from 9000. I think you are CPU limited and are getting the right fps for your system. If you have a AM2+ motherboard then you should upgrade to a phenom II when they come out to get increased performance. The 3870 is powerful enough to run all games maxed out even at high resolution.

no lag, bullcrap


i have 2 3870's in crossfire and im getting a good deal of lag at 1920x1080P
i highly doubt just becauase you got a new quadcore, your getting zero lag performance.

 

[roadrunner197069]

no lag, bullcrap


i have 2 3870's in crossfire and im getting a good deal of lag at 1920x1080P
i highly doubt just becauase you got a new quadcore, your getting zero lag performance.

Seems to me your jealous, cause you dont know what you are doing.

 

[rambo117]

not really, im getting a good playable amount of framerate with my rig.

go play with your girly 4670 at that resolution and lets all laugh at your framerate

 

[megamanx00]

TLB Bug FIX!!!!!!!!! That would be my first guess as to what your problem is. At stock clocks my Radeon 3850 and Athlon 5000 X2 were just fine with crysis on medium settings. I played most of the game on med-high settings, but just set everything to medium for some certain areas of the game.

Anyway you need to go into your BIOS and see if it has the TLB Bug FIX. If it does dissable it. You should only need to enable it if you ever want to turn that thing into a server and absolutly need 100% up time. Hey people do strange things. Also, did you update your drivers or did you just update CCC? Make sure that you have downloaded the complete driver set and that you uninstall the old drivers first.

 

[roadrunner197069]

not really, im getting a good playable amount of framerate with my rig.

go play with your girly 4670 at that resolution and lets all laugh at your framerate

Sorry, I dont got the 4670 no more. I got the 4850x2, so have fun with your 20 frames

You say you got a good amount of lag, and you call it playable. Sorry buddy, lag does not = playable.

Go ask your mommy if you can have a paper route.

 

[rambo117]

Sorry, I dont got the 4670 no more. I got the 4850x2, so have fun with your 20 frames

You say you got a good amount of lag, and you call it playable. Sorry buddy, lag does not = playable.

Go ask your mommy if you can have a paper route.

tushe... looks like someone finally got a card to compete with the big guys
anyways, i dont need some ghey paper route, i do homes advertising and get a decent sum of money.
20-30FPS on HD res is fine for me. im not gonna put hundreds of dollars into the newest technology out. i wait till its cheaper, then purchase. im sure your gonna feel really stupid with your 4850x2 once it drops down into the 3870x2 price range.

my rig can last for awhile IMO. im upgrading to a phenomII in a few months anywayz

 

[roadrunner197069]

No cause when it does I'll sell it to some noob like you and buy the next best thing.

 

[rambo117]

ok, sounds good

 

[grant64330]

ok, i looked in my bios and the TLB bug fix was already disabled, but i dont think it is the problem because it only decreases performance by about 10% (that would only be a few frames) i ran the benchmark that crysis comes with and even when i lowered it ALL the way down to low, dx9, and 800x600, i still only got a 13fps average i honestly dont think its my CPU because crysis is heavy on GPU's, and what probably matters the most is the cache amount (c2Q's cache is a lot bigger than the phenoms) ive update to 8.12 and that hasnt seemed to do anything, so went in my bios (again) to see if there were any options to adjust my GPU. I figured out that the "GPP slots Power limit" option was set at 25w, so i set it to 225 (hte max it will allow) but, i still only get 10-15fps average, no matter if it is very high 1280x1024 or low 800x600....any ideas

 

[invisik]

Im just curious is only crysis acting up or is it all your games?
I have had a similar issues once it was resolved by reinstalling drivers and reinstalling the game give that a shot.
crysis is a very resourceful my gtx260 sli was just barely able to max out crysis @ 1680x1050 with 16aa.

"Can both of you get along" =]

 

[rambo117]

Im just curious is only crysis acting up or is it all your games?
I have had a similar issues once it was resolved by reinstalling drivers and reinstalling the game give that a shot.
crysis is a very resourceful my gtx260 sli was just barely able to max out crysis @ 1680x1050 with 16aa.

"Can both of you get along" =]

16AA?!?!?!
holy crap dude. what kind of FPS do get??

 

[invisik]

I would say my avg fps would be about 30-32fps. During big battles it drops to about 25fps just for a few sec but its very playable. It even hits 40+fps sometimes lol.
=]

 

[grant64330]

meh ive already tried that, and im on 8.11 (they havent released 8.12 for my card yet ) it might be that i have vista x64,i guess ill try looking for some patches for crysis but i doubt they wild anything...maybe i should OC my graphics card because its has a HUGE fan and cooling pipes (gets as low as 30c sometimes =P) has any1 ever tried ocing a radeon 3870?

 

[rambo117]

meh ive already tried that, and im on 8.11 (they havent released 8.12 for my card yet ) it might be that i have vista x64,i guess ill try looking for some patches for crysis but i doubt they wild anything...maybe i should OC my graphics card because its has a HUGE fan and cooling pipes (gets as low as 30c sometimes =P) has any1 ever tried ocing a radeon 3870?

yes, i OCed both my 3870s. i must say, they have some great potential. my 3870s are HIS Iceq3 design. i set the clocks to 850core and 1250MEM
what type of 3870 do you have?

 

[werxen]

I doubt you will get any higher on a 3870 bro... I get 30-50 FPS on Crysis with an overclocked 4850 at 1680x1050 on high settings.