Best Card for Resplution 1440*900

Hey guys, my brother has a lsc 19 inch monitor. He like to play the newest games and such and i'm him a new card. I need help. At this resolution. I was going to buy him a 4850 but he likes to put AA and all those eye candies in these games. Would it be wise to get him a gtx280 or a 4870? Is a low resolution so im thinking that cancels out a gtx280. Would a 4870 be enough to satisfy him even with the shadows and AA etc. Would it be wiser to get him a 512MB or 1 GB version. Thank you. Also were looking for a bit of future proofing. Thank you for your help. I repeat again the game MMORPG's and new games like GTA IV and crysis etc. Thank you Again.

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get him a 4870 with 512mb since 1gig will be a waste at that resolution. ati cards this gen seem to handle aa better then gtx200 series.
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Message edited by invisik on 12-28-2008 at 05:56:28 AM

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^WHHHHHHHAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTT??????????????????????? You have to be kidding! seriously! a 9800GT/GTX/4850 will MORE than suffice! especially when overclocked. make sure he has a cpu that can keep up and 4GB ram though..

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No, he's not kidding. 1440x900 is a small resolution, but...

perez8434 wrote :

He likes to put AA and all those eye candies in these games....Also were looking for a bit of future proofing....the game MMORPG's and new games like GTA IV and crysis etc. Thank you Again.

While we can't predict the future, I think it's a safe bet that the 4870 will be capable of maintaining the desired image quality longer than the 9800 or 4850 at that resolution, especially if more games take the stalker: clear sky and crysis approach to their graphics. Sure the 4870 will be some overkill for now, but it'll let him go that much longer before needing to upgrade or reduce the eye candy.

Reply to efeat

Venom is right

Anything more is over kill and a waste of electricity

Buying a 4870 doesnt even make sense because later on it might be useful. By the time it is so much better and cheaper cards will be available , and so will cpu's
so

4850 [ with a nice dual slot cooler ] or a 9800

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dude. i play crysis on Very High (admittedly, its XP hacked, so vista would have lower fps.) 1440x900 + Natural Mod and AA in the early jungle levels on my 9600GT. an 8800GT would be able to hold 8xAA for the whole game, which a 4850 might be able to push 16xAA. seriously though, can you tell the difference?

9800GT/4830/4850.

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Wow dude you're either rich or a hard working man to be able to give your brother a $200+ card. good for you.

an HD4850 should be able to run any current game @ 1440x900 maxed with 4xAA.

A HD4870 should be able to run any current game and game many months/or year down the road @ 1440x900 maxed, current games with 8xAA (which is a waste imo), or games like Crysis on mostly max settings.

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V3NOM wrote :

dude. i play crysis on Very High (admittedly, its XP hacked, so vista would have lower fps.) 1440x900 + Natural Mod and AA in the early jungle levels on my 9600GT. an 8800GT would be able to hold 8xAA for the whole game, which a 4850 might be able to push 16xAA. seriously though, can you tell the difference?

9800GT/4830/4850.

lol, and V3NOM isnt lying. i saw the proof from our little "offsubject" benchmarking battle.

but yehh, 4870 is BEYOND overkill at that resolution. just get a 4850 and crossfire it later if you must.
or... just wait a year or two with one 4850 then sell it and go buy a 4870x2 for like 200 dollars xDD

btw, would crossfire work with that low of a resolution?

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plain on getting an new monitor in the near future?

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rambo117 wrote :

lol, and V3NOM isnt lying. i saw the proof from our little "offsubject" benchmarking battle.

but yehh, 4870 is BEYOND overkill at that resolution. just get a 4850 and crossfire it later if you must.
or... just wait a year or two with one 4850 then sell it and go buy a 4870x2 for like 200 dollars xDD

btw, would crossfire work with that low of a resolution?

Are you nuts? With the rig in my sig, I can't even run AA. period. When I turn it up to 2xAA I lose 10-15 FPS, and when I turn it up to 8xAA, I'm down to about 8 FPS. All at 1680x1050 with the latest 8.12 drivers.

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lol, im sorry you cant. i can run all settings on high with 2x AA at 1920x1080P with 15-35FPS. with 4xAA it drops a bit more but not very substantial. youve got a 4870, why are you getting worse FPS than me??

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V3NOM wrote :

dude. i play crysis on Very High (admittedly, its XP hacked, so vista would have lower fps.) 1440x900 + Natural Mod and AA in the early jungle levels on my 9600GT. an 8800GT would be able to hold 8xAA for the whole game, which a 4850 might be able to push 16xAA. seriously though, can you tell the difference?

The difference is the framerate, not the image quality. I have a couple 8800 GTs in my system so I tried running Crysis with those settings. 1440x900, XP very high config, 8x AA, SLI disabled (to emulate only having 1). Didn't have Natural Mod, though. I ran the GPU benchmark and got a minimum of 11 fps, maximum of 19 fps, and average of 15 fps. I suppose if 15 fps is good enough for you, then an 8800 gt is all you need. For most of us that's nowhere near acceptable. Either the graphics settings need to be dropped (which is something the OP mentioned he didn't want happening) or a more powerful GPU is needed.

rambo117 wrote :

btw, would crossfire work with that low of a resolution?

http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] =3341&p=20

Check the 8800 GT SLI in crysis. At 1280x1024 it goes from 32 to 57 FPS. The 4870 CF in call of duty 1680x1050 goes from 99 to 171. Yes, I know the difference between 99 and 171 is unnoticeable but it still shows that dual GPU works at low/medium resolution, provided the game supports crossfire/sli to begin with and the GPU is being that much of a bottleneck.

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ya the natural mod looks wayyy better than vanilla crysis and theres conflicting reports of better or worse performance... depends on your system i guess.

and also i assume you're running vista efeat? XP+very high hack ftw

and yeah although AA hits your framertae prety hard... the point is if it doesnt look any better why bother? lower framerate with no better noticeable quality? depends on the res really.

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No, I'm running XP 32 bit. I was tempted to install the natural mod and also try re-running the benchmark without AA....but then I decided that hamburgers were more important >.>

I think there is one small but crucial piece of information we are missing from the OP: How important is framerate is the recipient of this GPU? It sounds like both you and rambo are fine if your framerates aren't triple digits at all times. I'm a total FPS junkie so I do everything I can to stay above 50 in any game - Crysis included. Neither line of thinking is wrong really, it's just preference. If the OP's brother isn't too picky about framerates, the 9800/4850 and whatnot will do fine. If he likes things silky smooth, the 4870 or equivalent would suit him well.

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V3NOM wrote :

ya the natural mod looks wayyy better than vanilla crysis and theres conflicting reports of better or worse performance... depends on your system i guess.

and also i assume you're running vista efeat? XP+very high hack ftw

and yeah although AA hits your framertae prety hard... the point is if it doesnt look any better why bother? lower framerate with no better noticeable quality? depends on the res really.

lol, i LOVE the natural mod. looks beautiful and it doesnt even effect my performance from what ive seen

thankyou for tellin me about it m8
say no to vista xD

Reply to rambo117

well none of the ati's will perform as good as the nvidias in crysis... this is certainly a case of the GTX 260 beating the 4870 9800GT would beat the 4830 etc. depends how willing he is to spend more money for a slightly smoother framerate or better eye candy.

another case of price/performance

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He want acceptable frame rates. Meaning he cant notice any or lag and um..eye candy effects. Honestly you guys thinks he would like it. Also i just found out he plan to play with his CRT monitor so i think things change now since it is a VPR Matrix Monitor with a max resolution of above 2***X w/e. I think hes planning on playing on higher resolution than 1400X900 so i think 4870 would be my best bet? Or maybe um 4870X2 i don't know. I'm confused now. I need it to last him till next year at least. Meaning at least till February of 2009 then i can buy him another one.

Reply to perez8434

2048x1536? That's the highest 4:3 resolution that I know of. What motherboard are you putting this into? If there's a possibility for CF or SLI, the 1 GB 4870 or gtx 260 would be solid cards for that resolution and performance goal. It would also leave open the possibility of future upgradability. If no dual GPU is available, then the 4870x2 wouldn't be a terrible choice. Your price/performance ratio goes down when you get such a high end card, but it would probably last a couple years before it really starts to show its age.

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V3NOM wrote :

well none of the ati's will perform as good as the nvidias in crysis... this is certainly a case of the GTX 260 beating the 4870 9800GT would beat the 4830 etc. depends how willing he is to spend more money for a slightly smoother framerate or better eye candy.

another case of price/performance

there you go DISSING my company again >: (
dont ya remember the benchmark battle we had?? i beleive it was I that beat you AND the one guy with the 4870

Reply to rambo117

grrrrrrrrrrrrrr THREAD JACK:

3870 = slightly less than 8800GT 8800GT owning a 9600GT... two 3870? epic rape, however mine was still up there think what two 9600gt's could do... and i didnt finish my benchmarking! show me where i posted my benching on that thread! >: D owned!

*shakes fist* you just wait for my sli rig...

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nooooo dont get your SLI rig, then i'll loose :lol:
yehhh true, i suppose 2 3870's vs one 9600gt is a little unfair
pshhh slightly less than an 8800gt, I WISH! 8800gt pwns my cards lol

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:lol: doesnt help crysis is optimized for nvidia sucked in red!

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