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December 4, 2008 9:06:44 PM

Hello All...

I went shopping at Newegg.com and this is what I bought for my 1ST I repeat 1ST Custom Built PC.

**** TELL ME WHAT I SHOULD RETURN BECAUSE OF A BAD CHOICE AND WHAT I SHOULD REPLACE IT WITH ****

  • CPU - Intel Q6600
  • Motherboard - DFI LP DK P45-T3RSB PLUS LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX
  • Video Card - POWERCOLOR Radeon HD 3870 X2 1GB 512-bit (256-bit x 2) GDDR4 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported
  • RAM Memory - CORSAIR XMS3 DHX 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
  • Hard Drive - HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
  • DVD/CD Burners - 2 LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE
  • Power Supply - COOLMAX NW-650B 650W ATX12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready
  • CPU Fan/Heatsink - XIGMATEK EP-CD901 92mm Sleeve CPU Cooler
  • Computer Case - Rosewill R6426-P BK ATX Mid Tower Case

    I am wondering if this will be a good fast pc for the next 5years and then update the CPU then???

    I am going to use this pc to rip and copy 2 DVD's at once if possible, also I have my own web site so Ill use alot of adobe and dreamweaver to build my website.

    Also I wanna plug cable into this pc to watch my cable on my PC while I work....what more do I need to do that?
    December 4, 2008 9:28:06 PM

    well im kinda new to but if you want to run the new windows coming out in a year, you will need a new mother board and processor. also because of that you will alsoo need ddr3 ram
    so i7 rocessor, x58 motherboard, and ddr3 ram
    i know this because i am build my first pc here in 2 weeks
    December 4, 2008 9:30:20 PM

    ^ WRONG! Windows 7 will run on any current generation hardware (Phenom/C2D/C2Q,etc).
    Related resources
    December 4, 2008 9:33:10 PM

    @OP: Get a DDR2 board, DDR3 is completely unneeded unless doing some serious OCing (ie with TECs,etc). Then get a 4870 or 4850 in CrossFire. Also you never mentioned gaming. If you arn't gaming any card above a 9600GSO is a waste. Also get rid os the PSU. It is cr@p. Get a quality PSU from Corsair, PC Power & Cooling, or OCZ. I recommend the Corsair 650TX, 750TX or PC Power & Cooling 610 or 750.
    December 4, 2008 10:10:40 PM

    you should get two 500 GB HDD's to have windows (or any other OS that you want install) and your data.
    December 4, 2008 10:21:08 PM

    knotknut said:
    Today

    PC Power & Cooling 610 Watt Continuous @ 40°C EPS12V Active PFC Power Supply
    $199.99Your Price: $89.99With Promo Code EMCBCAEBB
    $54.99 After $35.00 Mail-In Rebate

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 $49.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    can't go wrong here. I too suggest dropping the 3870x2 and going with a 4850 or 4870 if you're a gamer. I think they make 1gb version of both, right???(i know stupid question, just havent looked to much a gpu's in a while lol)
    December 4, 2008 11:11:15 PM

    ^Yes there is a 1GB version.

    @OP: Swap out the HDD for a WD 640GB AAKS.

    Quote:
    I bought for my 1ST I repeat 1ST Custom Built PC.

    Hold on a sec there. If this is already bought why do you ask? You should ask BEFORE buying!
    December 5, 2008 1:16:49 AM

    Hello everyone....Thanks for the replies...

    I still am not sure what way you guys are directing me as if this is going to be a great PC.

    Daily Activites on this PC will be:

    DVD Shrink - To Rip DVD
    Nero 9 - Writing to DVD
    Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator and ImageReady
    Dreamweaver
    Limewire
    WarCraft
    Dawn of War
    Web Browsing
    Text Documents
    AVG Free Version
    AIM
    Yahoo Messenger
    Web Caming
    Watch and Capture my Cable thru my PC

    What parts are not good that I bought?

    Thanks so much once again!
    December 5, 2008 6:06:26 AM

    bigbowler1 said:
    What parts are not good that I bought?

    I'm sorry, but I'm going to be brutally honest with you. The only two things I'd keep are the CPU and case.

    The P45 chipset motherboard is a good start, but not the DDR3 version. I'd return it for a high quality Gigabyte or Asus board. This board is awesome:

    GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $136.99 - $20 MIR

    I'd also get some high quality DDR2 800 RAM. This is about the best DDR2 800 RAM you can buy:

    G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $49.99

    The next thing to do is ditch that previous generation 3870x2 card for either a current 4850 or 4870.

    Hitachi drives are ticking time bombs. Pick up a quality Western Digital or Seagate drive. This is a great drive for a low price:

    Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $109.99

    You should return those IDE DVD burners for the SATA version. There is no need putting a big IDE cable in a new build.

    The PC Power & Cooling 610W PSU knotknut linked to is a much higher quality unit than that Coolmax POS.

    If you're going to get a Xigmatek cooler, this is the one to get:

    XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $36.99 - $10.00 MIR

    You should also pick up the retention bracket if you can find it in stock.

    XIGMATEK ACK-I7751 Retention Bracket - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $8.49

    I know that's just a new build, but I told you I was going to be honest with you. Too bad you didn't come asking for advice BEFORE you bought all the parts.
    December 5, 2008 11:38:27 AM

    ya short stuff is right on. Something you also might want to consider to save yourself a few bucks since you really arn't doing any top end gaming is to consider a 9600 or a 4650/4670 graphics card.

    I also noticed your two burners are both IDE burners. Changes those to sata burners.
    December 5, 2008 11:47:36 AM

    I thought Newegg was quite strict on returns? At the very least, won't there be a 15% restocking fee? Should ask about your choices before you buy.

    +1 on ALL of shortstuff's suggestions.
    December 5, 2008 12:57:38 PM

    Thanks guys ill check out the parts you list that I should get instead.

    WHY GO WITH DDR2 NOT DDR3???

    NewEgg will return with no 15% Restocking Fee if the customer rep allows it.

    Keep posting im open to all ideas.

    Thanks
    December 5, 2008 6:09:55 PM

    DDR3 is not a good investment unless it's for an i7 build. The Core2Duo chips aren't very sensitive to RAM speed. DDR3 offers very little speed improvement for a much higher price. The build-in memory controller on the new i7 chips is able to utilize the potential of DDR3 RAM, but not the P45 chipset and Core2Duo chips.
    December 8, 2008 7:14:16 PM

    Thanks for the info guys...my parts came in today.

    I think I will like the Motherboard, CPU, Memory, Hard Drive and Case

    I am leaning towards...

    I may not like the DVD Burners b/c there not SATA but will that make a difference in ripping and copying DVD's in the future DL ones?

    Also the VIDEO Card is probley wrong b/c there are millions of them out there and i cant deside which ones would work best and longest for me....I would be a gamer if I had a good PC , and I do alot of graphics, as I have my own .com...

    As for the DDR3 memory and the i7 CPU...My motherboard runs core 2 duo and Quad Core processors 1333/1066 FSB so why would my motherboard not be a good choice with the CPU and Memory I bought.

    Thanks so much.
    December 8, 2008 9:51:03 PM

    ^ Just get any SATA 2 DVD RW, dosen't make much of a difference.

    YOU DO NOT NEED DDR3!
    December 9, 2008 11:28:36 AM

    DDR3 for a core 2 duo is only useful if you plan on doing extreme overclocking ( >4ghz ).

    DDR3 that is dual channel (in most cases) is dangerous for the new i7. This is because their voltages are above 1.65. So if your buying ddr3 for future upgrades this is a bad idea as well.

    If you buy ddr3 ram this means you have to buy a board that supports it. This will cost more.

    So here's the math:
    DDR3 + MB that supports DDR3 + CPU = slight increase
    over
    DDR2 + MB that supports DDR2 + CPU = great value.

    You might get a 5% increase with the ddr3 setup, but it'll also cost you at least and extra $200 more. I don't think that small increase is worth the extra money.

    shortstuff said it perfectly that core 2 processers are not very senstive to the ram speed.

    We can only give you advice on your build, not build it for you. If you do not think we are giving you quality answer to your questions that's ok. We are just here to help.
    December 9, 2008 7:47:25 PM

    thanks guys for the wealth of knowledge!

    I am going to return my motherboard, dvd burner, ram memory, and video card.

    LMAO

    Im going to get:

    Motherboard - GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX
    Memory - G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 900 (PC2 7200)
    DVD Burners - SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223F

    What do you guys think about them parts?

    Also I need help picking a Video Card. I will be gaming now that I have a real PC. War Craft, Dawn of War and Tom Clancey Games.

    Thanks,
    Brandon
    December 9, 2008 8:29:17 PM

    Those are much better choices. I really like this GPU:

    SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $239.99 -$15.00 MIR

    What PSU did you end up with? The whole system is nothing without a decent PSU. Coolmax is not a reputable PSU manufacturer.
    December 11, 2008 12:18:33 AM

    Ok guys I returned the following:

    Hard Drive
    Motherboard
    Memory
    Video Card
    Power Supply

    I have these items in my cart right now all I have to do is click checkout

    1. DVD Burners - Two SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner Black SATA - Link
    2. Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
    3. Video Card - XFX GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported
    4. Power Supply - RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 730W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Modular LED
    5. Card Reader - Rosewill RCR-102 52-in-1 USB 2.0
    6. Memory - Kingston HyperX 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066
    7. Motherboard - GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX
    8. Case Fans - One Rosewill RFA-80-BL 80mm 4 Blue LEDs LED and Two Rosewill RFA-120-BL 120mm 4 Blue LEDs
    9. Monitor - Acer H213H bmid Black 21.5" 5ms HDMI Widescreen 16:9 LCD

    Is this a better decision?

    Thanks alot guys.
    December 11, 2008 4:18:52 AM

    The DVD burners and hard drive look good. Everything else could definitely still improve.

    1. Samsung optical drives are a good choice.
    2. Nice HD choice there.
    3. The 8800GT is a pretty old GPU. I would pick up at least a 4850. Pick one from this list: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
    4. Raidmax PSU's are worse than the Coolmax you had originally. You have been given links for some nice quality PSU's. Avoid Raidmax PSU's! Stick with a quality unit from Corsair, PC Power & Cooling, Antec, etc... This has already been linked above, but here it is again: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    5. I'm sure that will work fine.
    6. The G.Skill RAM linked multiple times above is much better than that Kingston RAM. DDR2 1066 RAM with 5-5-5-15 timings at 2.2v is not a good indication of quality RAM. What made you change your mind?
    7. That's a nice board, but you should really spend a few extra dollars and get the UD3P board. Again, what made you change your mind? You seem to be going backwards on some choices here.
    8. I'd try to avoid 80mm case fans at all costs. They are very loud. It looks like the case comes with an 80mm rear fan, but it also looks like it has holes to support a 120mm fan.
    9. Nice choice. I like the full 1080p resolution.

    It seems that you don't like the advice given so far. Good luck! A lot of people giving advice here have built many systems and know from personal experience what works and what doesn't.
    December 11, 2008 11:04:31 AM

    ^+1 for every thing he said. esp on the PSU.

    @OP: Note that #of Watts do NOT mean better performance/quality.
    December 11, 2008 12:11:44 PM

    So many people try to skim on the PSU and get burned. Not only do they end up having to replace their psu in a short periode of time, it damages other components in the system. Ussualy adds up to a nice repair bill.
    December 12, 2008 1:25:24 AM

    Final Parts from my Returned Parts......

    GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
    Item #: N82E16813128358

    ASUS EAH4870 DK/HTDI/512MD5 Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
    Item #: N82E16814121290

    A-Top ATP-AP700SC 700W ATX12V2.2/EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply - Retail
    Item #: N82E16817184009

    Rosewill RCR-102 52-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader - Retail
    Item #: N82E16820223073

    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8000CL5D-4GBPI - Retail
    Item #: N82E16820231174

    Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
    Item #: N82E16822136284

    Acer H213H bmid Black 21.5" 5ms HDMI Widescreen 16:9 LCD Monitor - Retail
    Item #: N82E16824009157

    2 SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223F - OEM
    Item #: N82E16827151171

    Rosewill RFA-80-BL 80mm 4 Blue LEDs LED Case Fan - Retail
    Item #: N82E16835200045

    2 Rosewill RFA-120-BL 120mm 4 Blue LEDs LED Case Fan - Retail
    Item #: N82E16835200049

    Subtotal $917

    Parts I kept from my 1st purchase:

    Intel Quad Core Q6600

    Rosewill R6426-P-BK Black Mid Tower Case

    Subtotal $217

    Total for Monitor and PC - $1134

    HOW DID I DO MEN?
    December 12, 2008 4:55:51 AM

    It seems that no amount of advice could sway you to pick a PSU from a reputable manufacturer. I hope that A-Top PSU works out for you. I certainly wouldn't trust my system to it. Everything else looks pretty good.
    December 12, 2008 10:57:03 AM

    *hangs head*, can't win them all i suppose...

    Good luck with your build.
    December 12, 2008 11:18:56 AM

    All reviews on this psu lookd great 95% liked it...

    If i get another PSU what size should I get??

    Thanks
    December 12, 2008 11:31:39 AM

    If there is an area at newegg where reviews really didn't mean much it'd be for the PSU. 99% of people out there do not have the required equipment to fully test these psu's. They just give it 5 eggs because their machine booted. I say be very careful of this. I'm a computer engineer and deal with voltages and ciricuts of computers parts everyday, so i do know what i'm talking about.

    I would recommend the Corsair 650TX, 750TX or PC Power & Cooling 610 or 750, or Antec neo 650.
    December 12, 2008 3:45:26 PM

    kubes said:
    I would recommend the Corsair 650TX, 750TX or PC Power & Cooling 610 or 750, or Antec neo 650.

    +1 again
    December 12, 2008 6:03:40 PM

    Step by small step you guys are making it clear to me...

    I changed my PSU to : Corsair 750TX

    So now this is all done will this be a good PC for a long time?

    I know thats a shady question but as in compaired to HP, Dell ect.....

    AND THANKS FOR EVERYTHING GUYS ILL BE BACK NEXT WEEK WHEN ITS BUILT AND RUNNING.

    As for the Operating System , Im going to load XP Pro

    But would you recomment trying to tweek the bios and loading Mac for my operating system or vista??

    Thanks

    December 12, 2008 6:49:52 PM

    ^ Finally you picked a good PSU.

    Note: XP Pro 32bit is LIMITED to 3.5GB RAM.

    FYI: You don't need to tweak the BIOS to get Mac OSX to work. Im' not going to tell you how, but it is possible. It's a simple matter of knowing what packages to install.
    December 13, 2008 1:44:01 AM

    I highly recommend 64-bit Vista so you can take advantage of all 4GB in your new system. I run 64-bit Vista and haven't had any problems with it at all. This version is pretty cheap and works great:

    Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.99
    December 15, 2008 6:44:21 PM

    So would u guys Pick XP Pro, Vista 64 or Mac OS?

    I have XP Pro and till i buy a new OS i dont mind running it....

    I've just gotten tired of windows crashing every other week or cpl days.

    Thanks
    December 15, 2008 7:03:53 PM

    The only time I've ever got a BSOD in Vista is when I pushed an overclock too far. It's a very stable OS at this point. I'd choose 64-bit Vista for a new build any day.
    December 15, 2008 7:57:51 PM

    +1 vista 64 for this rig.

    I am not much of a mac person. Know very little about the OS and have really never wanted to even look into that OS. Personaly I feel there are a lot of wholes in that OS but that's probally due to my lack of experince with it.

    I would only choose xp if you had a system that was under 2gbs (maybe even 1gb) of ram and a slower processor. That's not the case with you so your good as gold.

    I've been on vista for two years now and never have seen a blue screen that was because of my own fault (overclocking, bios flashes gone bad...ect). I've had it lock up once or twice but really it was because of the jvm. I do a lot of java programming and every once in a while I mess some code up. This in return mucked up the jvm. (nothing a quick alt + ctrl + del can't fix). I think Vista really is the way to go.
    December 16, 2008 5:59:05 PM

    Which Vista?

    Also I heard that vista takes 2 or 3 times more memory as xp did.
    December 16, 2008 6:09:04 PM

    I linked this just a few posts up, but here it is again:

    Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.99

    Here's a link that compares the different versions:

    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/compare-...

    Vista doesn't take 2 to 3 times more memory as XP. It may appear that way to someone who doesn't understand how Vista manages memory. Vista will adapt to how much RAM is installed. Superfetch pre-loads frequently used applications into RAM so they start near instantly. The more RAM is installed, the more applications get pre-loaded. I don't see Superfetch as a bad thing since it will release the RAM if needed. It's a better way to manage RAM than just leaving it unused. When I upgraded from 2GB to 4GB my RAM usage percentage stayed about the same since Vista recognized the extra RAM and Superfetch pre-loaded more applications.

    Sure, Vista does use a little more RAM, but it's not as bad as you think. I ended up with an extra Vista license, so I installed it on an old 2.8GHz P4 machine with 1GB of RAM. Vista runs fine even on that machine. It's not a fast machine, but it wasn't when it was running XP either. :)  I for one will never even consider going back to XP.
    December 19, 2008 5:13:38 PM

    My Computer will be up and running Windows XP for now and this will be the masterpiece that makes it up......

    1 Intel Q6600 Quad Core CPU

    1 Rosewill R6426-P BK ATX Mid Tower Case

    2 SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223F - OEM
    Item #: N82E16827151171

    1 Rosewill RCR-102 52-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader - Retail
    Item #: N82E16820223073

    1 Rosewill RFA-80-BL 80mm 4 Blue LEDs LED Case Fan - Retail
    Item #: N82E16835200045

    1 ASUS EAH4870 DK/HTDI/1GD5 Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
    Item #: N82E16814121291

    1 G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8000CL5D-4GBPI - Retail
    Item #: N82E16820231174

    1 Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31000333AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
    Item #: N82E16822148373

    1 CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
    Item #: N82E16817139006

    2 Rosewill RFA-120-BL 120mm 4 Blue LEDs LED Case Fan - Retail
    Item #: N82E16835200049

    1 GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
    Item #: N82E16813128358

    1 KWORLD PlusTV HD PCI 120 ATSC 120 PCI Interface - Retail
    Item #: N82E16815260007

    1 ASUS VH226H Black 21.5" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
    Item #: N82E16824236051

    Post your opinions boys....

    And also I will be switching to Vista Ultimate after a few more 64bit softwars our out....maybe ill go with MAC OS!
    December 22, 2008 1:19:34 AM

    y go with slower speed?

    also i got it b/c it was only 10.00 more.

    thanks
    December 22, 2008 1:24:11 AM

    golden_inferno said:
    well im kinda new to but if you want to run the new windows coming out in a year, you will need a new mother board and processor. also because of that you will alsoo need ddr3 ram
    so i7 rocessor, x58 motherboard, and ddr3 ram
    i know this because i am build my first pc here in 2 weeks

    Dude you are so wrong. Windows 7 will on any computer that runs Vista. Microsoft said it will have the same System Requirements
    December 22, 2008 1:31:14 AM

    Dude. Big mistake. you don't buy components and then ask people what you should change. You Choose then ask, THEN you buy. Saves time and money. Huge mistake.
    December 22, 2008 5:27:46 AM

    Shadow703793 said:
    @OP: Get a DDR2 board, DDR3 is completely unneeded unless doing some serious OCing (ie with TECs,etc). Then get a 4870 or 4850 in CrossFire. Also you never mentioned gaming. If you arn't gaming any card above a 9600GSO is a waste. Also get rid os the PSU. It is cr@p. Get a quality PSU from Corsair, PC Power & Cooling, or OCZ. I recommend the Corsair 650TX, 750TX or PC Power & Cooling 610 or 750.


    antec is also very nice, im getting a true power quattro 1000w soon and im gonna run a gtx 280 on it.....cant wait, but for most ppl, go for the 4 series on graphics cards, but if you wanna sli, i reccomend a far higher psu......at least 800w....if not more, i have to get a 1000w because im going to have that gtx 280 and i have a 5 fan case (antec 900 with one on side) and cold cathodes, but at least 800 for sli or crossfire
    December 22, 2008 11:07:13 AM

    Im placing the order tomarow...

    So now you guys are mad about the PSU and the Memory?

    and joelg88 I have not placed the order yet....I did a cpl weeks ago but returned the items b/c I thought I would go with DDR3 and stuff n and I didnt know it wouldnt work with a Q6600.
    December 22, 2008 1:34:00 PM

    I don't know about that KWORLD tuner card. I'd pick up a Hauppauge tuner card. I have a HVR-1600 and a HVR-2250 in my HTPC. They've been great tuners and work very well together.
    December 22, 2008 3:40:21 PM

    bigbowler1 said:
    Im placing the order tomarow...

    So now you guys are mad about the PSU and the Memory?

    and joelg88 I have not placed the order yet....I did a cpl weeks ago but returned the items b/c I thought I would go with DDR3 and stuff n and I didnt know it wouldnt work with a Q6600.

    Oh. Alright.
    December 23, 2008 2:22:06 PM

    again y go with a slower memory I was going to get 1000 not 800
    !