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Hey so I want a gaming machine at a reasonable price. I'm just about at my absolute price limit so upgrading any of these parts will mean downgrading another. Just want to make sure I have what I need. So here's what I have in my cart

CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600 – Retail
Cooling: Rosewill RCX-Z4 120mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - Retail
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Combo: $219.98

Memory: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ – Retail - $44.99

Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
PSU: Rosewill RD550N-2DB-SL-BK 550W ATX Form Factor 12V V2.2 / SSI standard EPS 12V SLI Ready Active PFC Active PFC Power Supply - SLI Ready - Retail
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Combo: $186.98

Video: HIS Hightech H487F512P Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card – Retail - $229.99

Hard drive: Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive – OEM - $54.99

Optical drive: SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S223Q – OEM - $28.99

Case: XCLIO Windtunnel Fully Black Finish 1.0 mm SECC Chassis ATX Full Tower Computer Case – Retail - $119.99

will i need thermal grease or maybe extra wires?

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"PSU: Rosewill RD550N-2DB-SL-BK 550W ATX Form Factor 12V V2.2 / SSI standard EPS 12V SLI Ready Active PFC Active PFC Power Supply - SLI Ready - Retail "

Yep.

Reply to Proximon

We'll start here, then I'll give you some alternate suggestions:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] rts-choose

CPU cooler:
Sunbeam Core Contact

Why:
http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm
... and because it's fairly easy for a novice to install. If you want a better solution, number 2 on the list actually bolts into place, but you will need to buy your own thermal material (paste).

PSU:

Antec EA650
It may be ugly but it won't blow up. This is a quality unit that should cost more.
Review: jonnyguru
If you take the time to read this review you will learn what a good PSU does.

PC P&C 610W
An even finer unit than the EA650. Looks better too. Fantastic price after rebate, great price without rebate.

Message edited by Proximon on 12-05-2008 at 09:48:28 AM

Reply to Proximon

If you are really hooked on the Xclio, it's OK. In the end, the Antec Nine Hundred will cool better and be easier to work in:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] ntec%20900

Reply to Proximon

Use promo code "EMCBCAECE" for an additional $5 off the ram.

I would take Proximon's advice and get the Sunbeam cooler, Antec 900, and the PC P&C 610w PSU.

I would also recommend going with Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB

If the build is primarily for gaming, consider the E8400

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Reply to Slomo4shO

wow thanks guys for the tips. this site rocks. My cooler and mobo are a combo so I'm saving some money. Same with my psu and mobo. While I'd like to upgrade to these parts im really at my $$ limit. I guess my question is will my rig fire up and run efficiently without exploding on me haha. Also My choice in the quad core is in part a futureproofing measure. thanks so much for your quick replies!

Reply to Mike12ophone

What is your budget? I might be able to find you better deal without sacrificing in the PSU department.

Reply to Slomo4shO

Slomo4shO wrote :

If the build is primarily for gaming, consider the E8400

Quad core is the future, also in gaming. Just look at the gta 4 benchmarks.

Reply to daskrabbe

Wow, you just missed out big time!

eBay/microsoft had this 30% cashback thing going, along with rebates, prices were like this (including 30% and rebates):
$120 shipped - e8400
$119 shipped - Q8200
$133 shipped - Q6600
$84.50 shipped - Gigabyte UD3P
$257 shipped - Nvidia GTX 280
$120 shipped - 9800gtx+
$160 shipped - gtx 260
$185 shipped - gtx 260 core 216
$330 shipped - 4870x2
$185 shipped - 4870 1gb
$49 shipped - Corsair 450vx
etc.
etc.

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Reply to Noya

my budget is right about 1000 give or take a hundred or so and that includes the above parts and vista 64 and cheap speakers

Message edited by Mike12ophone on 12-05-2008 at 10:41:41 AM

Reply to Mike12ophone

Noya wrote :

I'm sure he finds that helpful.

Reply to daskrabbe

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600

ASUS P5Q Pro

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800, use promo code "EMCBCAECE"

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB

LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner

ASUS EAH4870 DK/HTDI/1GD5 Radeon HD 4870 1GB

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP

Antec EA650 650W

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro

Arctic Silver 5

Total: $1,006.89 - $35MIR = $971.89

Reply to Slomo4shO

Wrong, microsoft/ebay had a 40% cashback thing going on, there is still a 15%. It varys from 15-30% regularly.

Message edited by DFGum on 12-05-2008 at 11:20:08 AM

Reply to DFGum

DDR2 800 4gigs of corsair can be had for 24 dollars was 19dollars off newegg after rebate. Switch those if you wish.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820145184
Corsair also has 750w psu for that was 49.99, which was a nice deal/psu. I believe its back up to 100 tho.

Newegg seems to change other items that go well with other items so you never get too good of a deal at once, but good deals can be had if you buy peice by peice.
Pricing stuff over about a month period works best.
ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 is a excellent heatsink for the money.
If you do the cashback thru ebay with paypal and save 15-30% you MIGHT be able to get a even get a 4870x2 ..(dont get nvidia cards if your going with that mobo as you wont be able to have more then one if you want sli later)

Message edited by DFGum on 12-05-2008 at 11:24:10 AM

Reply to DFGum

IMO, whatever you take from all this, I hope it is that you SHOULD NOT GET A ROSEWILL PSU.

Check out any PSU tier reference, and you'll see Rosewill as one of the lowest quality PSUs. Things like PC P&C, Antec TruePower, Corsair, and he like are all excellent PSUs to go for. Here is an example of a tier list:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] p?t=108088

"Tier 5 - Other than the units listed above for any of these brands, NOT RECOMMENDED"

PSU is not a place you want to try to shave excessive cash in.

Reply to lurker87

Slomo's build is excellent. Minor tweaks, entirely optional, but might save some money without sacrificing performance:

GIGABYTE GA-EP43-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard - $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128347
Unless you're sure you'll want Crossfire, as this board only has one PCIE X16 slot but is $45 cheaper for the same quality otherwise.

You'd be giving up a lot of space, but if you really don't need it, you can save another $20 getting a smaller drive, like this WD 320GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 822136074.

You won't need the AS5 with that cooler; save another $6.

That's an outstanding case (I really like mine), but if only to make budget, a $27-$35 Rosewill case would offer sufficient cooling. Otherwise stick with the one he linked.

Not a tweak, I second (or is it 3rd, 4th, etc...) the Antec EA650. That is an incredible price for a good PSU. Some of the Rosewill PSUs are better now (at least one passing all the tests at jonnyguru), but they won't compare to Antec.

Don't count on rebates; I hate that game, and you may not win: http://blog.slickdeals.net/index.p [...] -affected. Newegg uses them.

Reply to jtt283

thanks I'm going with slomo's recommends all except the case. I know thats its probably the better case but, I really like the XCLIO one I found. Fingers crossed..hope this all works out

Reply to Mike12ophone

you will get better gaming as well around the same price point due to the upgrade to the 1gb version over the 512mb version.

XCLIO A380PLUS-BK is my personal favorite case from XCLIO. Its $5 cheaper than the one you choose

Message edited by Slomo4shO on 12-05-2008 at 09:26:32 PM

Reply to Slomo4shO

hey thanks for lookout slomo but even though this case looks like a cooling monster with that huge fan, I think the lights would bug me haha

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