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March 1, 2009 3:03:33 PM

Hi, Im going to be buying a new pc in the next few months, and i was wondering if there is a way I can connect my old to pc to it so it can use its processing power? Similar to cluster computing I think.

Ive read about some linux cluster computing, but I would like to use Windows Vista and move onto Windows 7. Is there any feasible way this could be done? My old pc is 3.2 Ghz P4 2GB ram and i would really like to add the power of it to my new machine. I dont mind installing a server OS - whatever it takes to get it done. If its not possible now will it be possible in the future?

Thanks for help.
March 1, 2009 3:18:35 PM

Clustering is only ever usefull for server type processes like running a database.
March 1, 2009 3:29:40 PM

Well it's not gonna happen with a desktop OS for a start. Linux is more versatile in the clustering arena but even then, as djcoolmasterx said, it's mostly only viable for databases and similar.
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March 1, 2009 3:55:32 PM

A good place to start ---> Google "grid computing" "distributed computing" "render farms" "render nodes"

Depending upon your favorite software you may investigate possible plug-ins which will establish worker nodes across your network.

There is everything from Freeware to licensed software costing 100's of dollars depending upon your applications.

You should also study up on gigabit routers and 1000Mbps managed switches if you intend to build upon your ""grid"".

You might even start scavenging :) 
March 1, 2009 5:17:03 PM

Buy a good i7 rig with 6-12g of ram and an intel SSD, and you wont need to add the little tiny power of the old system.

You greatly under estimate todays technology if you think that puny P4 needs to help your new rig.
March 1, 2009 5:53:01 PM

Ignoring roadrunners first comment I will agree that todays tech will be more than enough to blast that P4 and for cheap. A good Phenom II or Core 2 quad will destroy it for cheap. Post up your budget bro and we will see what we can do.
March 1, 2009 6:14:01 PM

The_Blood_Raven said:
Ignoring roadrunners first comment I will agree that todays tech will be more than enough to blast that P4 and for cheap. A good Phenom II or Core 2 quad will destroy it for cheap. Post up your budget bro and we will see what we can do.




Don't be a hater because your mommy wont buy you one.

We all know i7 is the most powerful desktop solution out, theres no reason not to get the best especially when you dont upgrade often.

He has a P4, he obviously doesn't upgrade often.

Obviolsly hes looking for some major power and core 2 quad and P2 cant come close to the raw power and the huge memory bandwidth of a i7.
March 1, 2009 6:37:38 PM

roadrunner197069 said:
Buy a good i7 rig with 6-12g of ram and an intel SSD, and you wont need to add the little tiny power of the old system.

You greatly under estimate todays technology if you think that puny P4 needs to help your new rig.



Greatly underestimate? Maybe it's that he doesn't fully understand how it all works and is just trying to get a foot in the door of computing. He had what he though was a neat idea, so even if it comes across at stupid to you "pros" doesn't mean his idea is a product of underestimation. Unfortunately, I stumble upon your "posts" every once in a while, and I think you greatly overestimate your intelligence.

Are all 4500+ posts of yours just troll bait?
March 1, 2009 7:20:48 PM

TheGuitarist said:
Greatly underestimate? Maybe it's that he doesn't fully understand how it all works and is just trying to get a foot in the door of computing. He had what he though was a neat idea, so even if it comes across at stupid to you "pros" doesn't mean his idea is a product of underestimation. Unfortunately, I stumble upon your "posts" every once in a while, and I think you greatly overestimate your intelligence.

Are all 4500+ posts of yours just troll bait?



Oh, another hater that cant afford the best. Good to see you tightwads stick together atleast.

2 bad PCs dont equal one good one, sorry about your luck.

Also never once did I call his idea stupid. I suggested he spend his money and actually get the performance he desires. I for one dont like to waste my money.


After reading your post here: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/257520-28-best-socket...

I think it is fair to say shut your pie hole when it comes to PCs and stick to the music forums.

What a noob, you buy a PC just recently and it has a P4. LMAO, you got butt raped.


You obviously have no idea of the power of a pimped out i7 so shut it.

He has a P4, and you have a P4, my i7 can outperform both of your P4 rigs and run circles around them:) 

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/258117-31-roadrunners
March 1, 2009 7:32:32 PM

Not everyone can afford the best, maybe you should come back down to earth.
March 1, 2009 7:36:53 PM

Not everyone can afford a new crap PC every year either.

All you idiots act like a i7 rig costs $1000s, lol. Do some home price research and get a life.
March 1, 2009 7:59:56 PM

Roadrunner your a fool. He is looking to hook his P4 PC to a new PC he wants to build, that does not speak of a large budget. So you go and recommend a $1500 setup to him that excludes GPU(s). The reason your an idiot is because, as usual, all you are here to do is brag up your god damn system. You make up numbers and act like i7 is so much better than it is just to justify yourself. You are the biggest a$$ hole on this forum and your a fool that can't get to grips with reality.

Oh and for the record I could buy your rig twice over with the spending money I have in the bank and I ordered a new system a few days ago with i7. Even though I now own an i7 system and have built and used an i7 system I am not such an a$$ hole that I have to spread misinformation to people to make me feel superior. Why don't I? My current system is 90% as fast as your system and nothing most people do will benefit from going i7 over a decent C2Q or Phenom II.

New parts on order:
I7 920
MSI Eclipse
2 4870 X2s in crossfireX (the reason I can benefit from i7)
6GB of G.skill 1600Mhz DDR3
another Danger Den 4870 X2 waterblock
Danger den MCP 1336 waterblock

Total: $1400

Oh and it is me who buys my mother PC parts, not the other way around.
March 1, 2009 8:01:19 PM

bunion please make a new thread if you need help picking out parts. We will help you and if you want then fell free to PM me for anything. Ignore roadrunner, I'm sorry about him.
March 1, 2009 8:14:19 PM

Not everyone can afford a new crap PC every year either.

All you idiots act like a i7 rig costs $1000s, lol. Do some home price research and get a life.
March 1, 2009 8:18:11 PM

The_Blood_Raven said:
Roadrunner your a fool. He is looking to hook his P4 PC to a new PC he wants to build, that does not speak of a large budget. So you go and recommend a $1500 setup to him that excludes GPU(s). The reason your an idiot is because, as usual, all you are here to do is brag up your god damn system. You make up numbers and act like i7 is so much better than it is just to justify yourself. You are the biggest a$$ hole on this forum and your a fool that can't get to grips with reality.

Oh and for the record I could buy your rig twice over with the spending money I have in the bank and I ordered a new system a few days ago with i7. Even though I now own an i7 system and have built and used an i7 system I am not such an a$$ hole that I have to spread misinformation to people to make me feel superior. Why don't I? My current system is 90% as fast as your system and nothing most people do will benefit from going i7 over a decent C2Q or Phenom II.

New parts on order:
I7 920
MSI Eclipse
2 4870 X2s in crossfireX (the reason I can benefit from i7)
6GB of G.skill 1600Mhz DDR3
another Danger Den 4870 X2 waterblock
Danger den MCP 1336 waterblock

Total: $1400

Oh and it is me who buys my mother PC parts, not the other way around.



Looser with lies. Why dont you go buy another Dell.
March 1, 2009 8:41:46 PM

Bunion, my apologies for feeding the troll. Every forum has one so I apologize for ruining the thread.

March 1, 2009 8:52:39 PM

x264 has a render farm application under linux
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March 1, 2009 9:36:12 PM

Not effiecent, as nothing will give you enough bandwith between PC's to ever give any significant gain in anything. Heck, I would expect a LOSS in performance, simply due to the PC's waiting on eachother half the time.
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March 1, 2009 11:13:31 PM

gamerk316 said:
Not effiecent, as nothing will give you enough bandwith between PC's to ever give any significant gain in anything. Heck, I would expect a LOSS in performance, simply due to the PC's waiting on eachother half the time.


Actually, it's typically more efficient with ""equal GHz comparison"" with the greater number of nodes and slower clocked CPUs - less wasted clock cycles.

I'm sure there is a good explanation for it but I'm not the one to answer it. IIRC there is an article about it at ARS or Extremetech ...
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March 1, 2009 11:25:02 PM

gamerk316 said:
Not effiecent, as nothing will give you enough bandwith between PC's to ever give any significant gain in anything. Heck, I would expect a LOSS in performance, simply due to the PC's waiting on eachother half the time.

Infiniband can help with the bandwidth. After all that's what HPCs use.
March 2, 2009 9:06:40 AM

I agree, Roadrunner is an idiot. You suggest buying a i7 rig with 6-12g of ram and an intel SSD and then say it doesn't cost $1000s.

Yes i7s start at $300 but if you're getting 6+gigs of RAM plus a SSD you're probably gonna not go for the cheapest i7.
Even for just the cheapest i7, the cheapest 6GB and the cheapest Intel SSD your looking at over $700 (and we're missing the other half of the PC).
Add the cheapest possible other components (DVD burner, motherboard, PSU, ATX case, 7300GS) we're looking at $1000, at that's with a **** GPU and not keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers or OS.
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March 2, 2009 9:46:51 AM

Roadrunner you have violated ToS about 5 times in one thread ...

I think an apology is in order.

Otherwise your getting reported ... simple.

In actual fact the most limiting issue with a desktop is the OS and the constraints of the I/O system we are forced to deal with in terms of backward compatibility.

No matter how good your new system is just watch it sit there and spin while your copying / moving files / data from the HDD across to something else.

That's when you realise nothing has changed in 10 years.

Benchmarks fail to mention this small detractor.

As for the OP's question I don't recall reading that Windows 7 has any magic woven into it's software that will allow clustered computing.

You could keep the old beast for a server (declock it a bit as you don't need the extra speed) and fill it full of drives ... could be a decent NAS ??
March 2, 2009 11:48:38 AM

The old's old P4 system would do fine as a media server or a Linux play box... but as far as directly assisting a new system... that just ain't practical.
March 2, 2009 11:57:22 AM

Reynod said:
Roadrunner you have violated ToS about 5 times in one thread ...

I think an apology is in order.

Otherwise your getting reported ... simple.

In actual fact the most limiting issue with a desktop is the OS and the constraints of the I/O system we are forced to deal with in terms of backward compatibility.

No matter how good your new system is just watch it sit there and spin while your copying / moving files / data from the HDD across to something else.

That's when you realise nothing has changed in 10 years.

Benchmarks fail to mention this small detractor.

As for the OP's question I don't recall reading that Windows 7 has any magic woven into it's software that will allow clustered computing.

You could keep the old beast for a server (declock it a bit as you don't need the extra speed) and fill it full of drives ... could be a decent NAS ??




LOL, obviously you know nothing, my PC has no problem copying, moving Huge files @ warp speeds. Maybe you should look into a new hard drive and a i7 rig instead of that AMD crap you use if your having issues.
March 2, 2009 1:07:09 PM

Thanks for all the helpful information. I'm not going to be building the new PC for a few months, I just wanted to be sure their was no way my old system could improve it no matter how powerful the new system is. Buying a very powerful computer didnt really answer the question. I can run vista on it comfortably at the moment it's a shame theirs no solution to utilize it directly. The media server sounds like a good idea though.
March 2, 2009 6:39:58 PM

Roadrunner you are so dumb it is physically painful to me. I wont even point out why you were biased and wrong in that post or how you read reynod's post totally wrong. Please go find another forum.
March 2, 2009 10:47:31 PM

The_Blood_Raven said:
Roadrunner you are so dumb it is physically painful to me. I wont even point out why you were biased and wrong in that post or how you read reynod's post totally wrong. Please go find another forum.




OK, I'm the dumb one and your the one asking how to remove a heat sink from a CPU. GOOD ONE!!!
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March 2, 2009 10:50:47 PM

Wow.... some people need to take a chill pill.

March 2, 2009 10:54:53 PM

Wow, good one roadrunner. Too bad it was a CPU from a heatsink and I was more asking what negative effects the guy pulling it out of the socket would have so that I could look for it. Nice to flame someone on a totally unrelated subject to the thread. Why are you even still here? Go find another forum that is full of people that are reality-challenged like yourself and save us the hassle of dealing with you.
March 2, 2009 10:56:47 PM

I cant help it that you are retarded and you think you know more then GOD!


Get a life, or a girlfriend!
March 2, 2009 11:11:27 PM

Umm... so now I think I know more than God? Well roadrunner, when I create another universe in 7 days then you can say that. Oh and my girlfriend is fine thanks for asking, although she wrecked her car again, guess who gets to pay for it!

Oh and as someone who volunteers at a center for special needs kids, don't use that word please.
March 2, 2009 11:13:16 PM

Anywho I'm not here to argue. Sorry everyone for feeding the troll, I take full responsibility for that as I should know better. I'll ignore roadrunner in this thread for now on.
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March 3, 2009 12:46:25 AM

roadrunner197069 said:
I cant help it that you are retarded and you think you know more then GOD!


Get a life, or a girlfriend!


I believe my irony meter just exploded.
March 3, 2009 1:03:06 AM

And to think that guy CLAIMS he is grown with a kid that has a disability. What a dolt.
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March 3, 2009 5:03:13 AM

Rating war anyone ??

Easy way to clean the thread up ...
March 3, 2009 6:38:26 AM

Ratings arn't sticking for some reason :/ 
March 3, 2009 1:36:05 PM

Hmmmm.. off task a little eh? Violators will be thrown into the mosh pit and slog at each other in a battle of wits. Hopefully both opponents will come armed and display the courtesy of not engaging an unarmed opponent.

I thought that this was the linking of 2 PCs thread .......
March 3, 2009 6:06:26 PM

roadrunner197069 said:
Not everyone can afford a new crap PC every year either.

All you idiots act like a i7 rig costs $1000s, lol. Do some home price research and get a life.


Just in case, every i7 rig worth having is worth $1000+. An i7 rig under that is carrying crappy hardware. You think you know everything with those 4500 posts but you actually think naming some of the most expensive parts to a person obviously on a budget , would make him consider buying that stuff. Better go to anandtech, where all the rest of the loosers are hanging out!
March 3, 2009 6:10:30 PM

Bunion , i think it will be better to buy a new pc and forget about that p4 rig. There is not that much power in a p4 cpu today. Sell it or give it to someone.
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March 11, 2009 1:55:49 PM

hi, iv spent quite a bit of my life reading all this crap! but the question is can we connect pc s' together to use them to there full spec all the time?

i have a office with 4pc 6 laptops all networked. they are old and slow(when i bought them i would never need owt faster they said:( .)

i dont want to spend money upgrading i want to know if theres owt out there so they will share prossesing power and ram? if not the man that make this will be sat next to bill.(gates). even 1 step further i should be able to use yours whilst your fast asleep or on the bog.. over the net....bit like ps3 does now.

any way
any 1 with half a functioning brain reads this and knows email me carlkennedy05@aol.com
cheers
March 11, 2009 6:23:15 PM

Ok WTF did he say? ^

Seriously, that must be one of the thickest accents I've ever seen typed online!

Oh and NO THERE IS NOT WAY TO LINK MULTIPLE PCs TOGETHER THE WAY YOU MENTION! That has been answered a lot in this pathetic thread.
March 11, 2009 7:26:15 PM

Northerners? On my internet?
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