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December 9, 2008 12:00:55 AM

I don't know if the HSF is an overkill. I don't know if the power supply is enough, I don't want to cut it too close. I am not sure if the extra 65 dollars is worth it for the other case. I don't know much about the bluray burners and the one I chose looked okay. Let me know any suggestions please. I want it to be an all around good computer. I play games but
don't need them to be at the highest settings. I just want it to be able to play them all. I know this HDD I chose is popular and assume its not worth it to get a SSD yet. I am looking to overclock the processor to a "safe" speed. Does the GSKILL ram work well with Gigabyte Motherboards?

Adding up the cost not including the bluray burner, OS, monitor, and thermal paste the price comes to $785, 1305 including all that stuff.

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Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor -

Retail :$188
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM :$18
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Scythe DFS123812-3000 "ULTRA KAZE" 120 x 38 mm Case Fan - Retail :$10
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thermalright Ultra-120 CPU Cooling Heatsink - Retail :$60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail :$137
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4850 100245L Video Card - Retail :$160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM: $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail :$60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail :$110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail :$45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LG Black 6X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 6X Blu-ray DVD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA Internal Blu-ray

Burner 6X Blu-ray Disc Burner & HD DVD-ROM Drive Model GGW-H20LK - OEM :$230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD - OEM :$100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS VH226H Black 21.5" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen 16:9 Full HD 1080P LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 12000 : 1) Built in Speakers - Retail :$190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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December 9, 2008 1:16:34 AM

Do you REALLY need a Blu-ray burner? I have never even needed to burn a DVD... but maybe you are making 2 hour long hi-def home videos? :) 
If you are sure you are going to use it, fine. If not, get a Blu-ray player.

Then, get a 1GB Sapphire 4870:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The performance gain you will get is well worth the $100.

I forgot to mention... good build! :D 
December 9, 2008 1:28:53 AM

HSF is perfect if you're planning to do some overclocking, u want it as cool as possible even if you don't to make it last.
I'd look into the Sunbeam core contact freezer and Xigmatek s1282 (is that the right model #?) HSFs, cheap and very very good cooling.
If u want flashing lights and a window, go with the antec 900...if u want a sleek case that does it's job, and save 65 bucks, go with the 300...i personally love the look of the 300, it doesn't give up much in size, has great cooling, and CHEEEEAP. it'll house pretty much any beast aswell.
your hard drive, the popular one is the 640gb WD 16mb buffer drive, best price:p erformance:size ratio. although u really can't go wrong nowadays.
RAM is good if u want big overclocks.
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December 9, 2008 1:36:37 AM

What size power supply should I get if I upgrade to that video card and if I don't? I know theres sites the suggested but want to see what you think too. Pretty sure when I checked it said 500 watts when I used the 4850 512mb video card in the configuration.
December 9, 2008 1:39:52 AM

About that Blue-ray burner:
  • You do know that a single 25GB disc is 10+$ and 35$+ for a 50GB right?
  • Have you considered using an external HD instead?
  • Do you know if the discs burned will be readable by anything else than the burner? (Not all drives can read DVD+R DL for exampe)
    December 9, 2008 2:04:40 AM

    Are you talking about the bluray discs burned by the bluray burner don't like to play on commercial bluray players (the kind you use with a tv). I was going to buy a the bluray discs in more of a bulk. When is external a more smart way to go for hard drives? Easy to move, less heat inside case, and less power drained from power supply?
    December 9, 2008 2:05:20 AM

    c_saunders_15 said:
    What size power supply should I get if I upgrade to that video card and if I don't? I know theres sites the suggested but want to see what you think too. Pretty sure when I checked it said 500 watts when I used the 4850 512mb video card in the configuration.

    u can prob run a 4870 with a 500w, but if u plan to overclock, you're going to want to give yourself some room.
    600w should be sufficient, it'll give u an option of cf too.
    December 9, 2008 11:45:08 AM

    c_saunders_15 said:
    Are you talking about the bluray discs burned by the bluray burner don't like to play on commercial bluray players (the kind you use with a tv). I was going to buy a the bluray discs in more of a bulk.
    I said I didn't know if "burned bluray discs" would play on a "TV" bluray player, but there was a "incompatibility" precedent with "burned DVDs" so make no assumptions. They might work but, if it was your main purpose, make sure of it or you might just waste money. As for the discs, I searched a bit more an the cheapest discs I could find are 5$ for 25GB discs and +35$ for 50GB, see:
  • Writable (25GB)
  • Re-Writable (25GB)
  • Dual layer (50GB)
    Note that "commercial BD discs" (the ones they sell for movies) are probably Dual-Layer discs, so if you intention was to "backup" your movies, it might be cheaper just to buy another :-/.
    c_saunders_15 said:
    When is external a more smart way to go for hard drives? Easy to move, less heat inside case, and less power drained from power supply?
    I would use an external HD if you potentially want the data to be portable, either to bring with you or to store elsewhere (backup). I don't think heat and power should be much of a concern for most home computers.

    What was your intended use for the Bluray burner, we could probably suggest the best alternative depending on your needs.
    December 10, 2008 2:27:27 AM

    What PSU did you decide on?
    December 19, 2008 9:54:41 PM

    I messed up, I ordered everything the way the post goes except I thought I would go cheaper and get the
    sunbeam core contact freezer but it didn't fit to the motherboard because of the motherboard heatsink being in the way. I had to use the HSF that came with the processor but I feel like I should still get a better HSF so I can overclock to 4.0 GHz safely. I am gonna send it back to newegg and pay the restocking pay... get the Thermalright Ultra Extreme and Scythe Ultra Kaze because that will work with my motherboard (GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P) right? I don't know if there was a way to mod the heatsink on the motherboard to get it to fit but don't they it would be worth it, don't want to mess that up. Other than that the computer booted up fine and its really quick. Not sure if I have the power connectors from the PSU connected the most efficient way, is there a rule of thumb? ...this corsair 750w came with so many power cables I don't know if I am going to be able to close my case right.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    adreen said:
    HSF is perfect if you're planning to do some overclocking, u want it as cool as possible even if you don't to make it last.
    I'd look into the Sunbeam core contact freezer and Xigmatek s1282 (is that the right model #?) HSFs, cheap and very very good cooling.
    If u want flashing lights and a window, go with the antec 900...if u want a sleek case that does it's job, and save 65 bucks, go with the 300...i personally love the look of the 300, it doesn't give up much in size, has great cooling, and CHEEEEAP. it'll house pretty much any beast aswell.
    your hard drive, the popular one is the 640gb WD 16mb buffer drive, best price:p erformance:size ratio. although u really can't go wrong nowadays.
    RAM is good if u want big overclocks.

    December 20, 2008 7:15:59 PM

    I checked the temps below and after with stock HSF and it was 35 degrees celcius before overclock now at 4.05ghz OC its temp is at 60 c. But theres more load now too and I am still running nothing. Definitley need a better HSF.
    !