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Hi guys,

first of all happy new year 2009 to you all :)

Here's the specifications of my pc I'm currently using.. some components are way older but had to keep them you know...

CPU - Pentium 4 3.0Ghz Cedar Mill
VGA - Sapphire HD 4870 512Mb
Ram - Kingston 1Gb DDR2 667Mhz x 2
Mobo - Intel DG965WH
PSU - Zalman ZM750-HP 750w

I had to play games at 1024*768 resolution because of the 15" monitor I'm having. Currently playing prince of persia 2008,farcry 2 and nfs undercover. I noticed even that at this resolution when I set the graphics settings to max, some places in the game it runs well but sometimes it gives me performance issues.

now this is weird, I also tested the prince of persia 2008 and nfs undercover with max settings at 1440*900 but had the same issues with the performance. I mean I feel that the game performance is same at both resolutions.

I suspect that this is a bottleneck for the GPU so I've searched a bit on the net regarding this problem and there some people says that to avoid a bottleneck you must have atleast q6600 (stock clock is ok) or C2D higher processors. I don't know about my mobo and ram but hope they are ok for this GPU..

what do you guys think about this issue ? this mobo DG965WH has no OC facilities and the best processor it can handle is the q6600 ( fits to my budget also ). I'll think of buying the q6600 but please I need to make sure whether I'll be able to play games at 1024*768 and 1440*900 with max settings after buying q6600.

I found this thread also
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] mb-problem and the output from the unigine is shown below.

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1464/specspd7.jpg

Please let me know your opinions about this issue. thanks and sorry for the long description..

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CPU - Pentium 4 3.0Ghz Cedar Mill = your problem.

Single Core CPU even though it has HT, its def the bottleneck...

------------------------------ |Q6600 G0@3.2ghz|Abit X38QuadGT|8Gigs DDR2 G.Skill|2 320Gig Seagate SATAII|EVGA 8800GT SC|
|Vista Ultimate 64|Samsung 206BW|
Reply to FatFunkey
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^+1
Also running Vista with only 2gb of RAM is a problem

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Reply to ausch30

Here's the list of CPUs that are supported by your motherboard: http://processormatch.intel.com/Co [...] me=DG965WH

For gaming, the E6700 probably is a good choice, assuming that you can find one. Unfortunately that motherboard can't be overclocked.

Reply to GhislainG
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Apart from the processor you`ve got a good gaming system;)

Go for the processor upgrade, but check here to ensure it`s comatable.

http://support.intel.com/support/m [...] 026598.htm

Reply to coozie7
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OK, I need to type faster:(

Reply to coozie7

I would go with the E6700 also.

But I suggest you to just save up for a new mobo, CPU and RAM all at a time.

Reply to M-Ajesty
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I think you should get a E8400 core 2 duo it is awesome value for money.

And another thing you have your AA set at 16x in that screen shot, that is usually very tough on a graphics card set it down to 4x and see if it helps XD

Reply to mehcrim

mehcrim, I provided a link to all compatible Core 2 CPUs for that motherboard (http://processormatch.intel.com/Co [...] me=DG965WH ), but unfortunately the E8400 isn't on that list. He'd have to buy a new motherboard along with an E8400 (which is what I'd do).

Reply to GhislainG

The guy just doesn't pay attention to other posts, Ghislaing :).

PS: Mehcrim, Anisotropy isn't Anti Aliasing.. 16x is fine for Anisotropy.

Reply to M-Ajesty
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thanks for the replies guys :) anyway would you think that I can get away with good performance in games if I use q6600 and also avoid bottlenecking the HD4870 .because this board doesn't support e8400 the best option for me is q6600 ( I couldn't buy both the mobo and cpu so I'm hoping to get a q6600 for now and later I'll OC it with a new motherboard ) .


Message edited by nadunx on 01-05-2009 at 01:10:48 PM
Reply to nadunx
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ausch30, I'll try going back to windows xp sp2 and see if that helps also . I thought may be the dx10 can help a bit on the gaming so that's why I'm still using vista :)..

Reply to nadunx

Nah, 2gb + vista = a big problem.

Vista uses 1GB itself, which means you'll have 1GB of RAM left for other tasks.

Q6600 pretty much sucks for gaming. E8400 is THE gaming processor.

Once again, I suggest you the save up for a mobo + new processor + new RAM all at one time, just to get the best out of it, instead of buying weaker components all apart.

Reply to M-Ajesty
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nadunx wrote :

ausch30, I'll try going back to windows xp sp2 and see if that helps also . I thought may be the dx10 can help a bit on the gaming so that's why I'm still using vista :)..


DX10 makes your system work harder and will amplify any weaknesses.

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