Nvidia's 40nm GT212 to have 384 SPs, 96 TMUs, and 256-bit 7Gbps GDDR5

Nvidia's 40nm GT212 to have 384 SPs, 96 TMUs, and 256-bit 7Gbps GDDR5



half-step between GT200b and GT300



According to a recent report from Hardware-Infos, the specifications of Nvidia's coming flagship 40nm GT212 architecture have been identified and revealed from unnamed sources near Nvidia, as usual. To start matters off, GT212 is the successor to 55nm GT200b which is currently rolling into production. In comparison, the upcoming architecture is essentially following two similar footsteps of 65nm G92 last March - a die shrink to a smaller fabrication process and a decrease in memory interface width.


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It reduces the complexity of the PCB, which means lower manufacturing costs for Nvidia and *hopefully* lower retail costs for consumers.

Besides, the bandwidth between 512-bit GDDR3 and 256-bit GDDR5 doesn't make much of a difference to be honest.

interesting, I wonder what ati has up their sleeves

If youre information is moving twice as fast to half as many connections, its essentually a tie as for speed, or 1000 Mhz thru a 512 but is = to 2000Mhz thru a 256 bus. Then, not having the extra connections on your pcb reduces costs, also, GDDR5 elimantes the wire tracing length requirements needed on GDDR3, as it (GDDR5) equalizes the power and resistance on the wire leads, where GDDR3 cant, and those wires have to be precisely laid out. Having twice as many connections also requires extra layers for the pcb as well, so its a much cheaper solution, only off set somewhat by the higher costs of GDDR5, which by the time we see these cards, should be closer to GDDR3 in pricing/costs, and also more than twice as fast as well

Im thinking the trend towards highend will be 1 gig. Not too sure having that many TMUs will help , as well as the shader count, but I guess well find out

Ok. It seems that power vs price will be closer between ATI and Nvidia guite soon. Back to "good ole times" when the crown was transferred between these two, periodically :-)
It's just that ATI is still only making middle range GPU's, but really good ones at this moment ;-)
It will be interesting to see if ATI can improve the scaling of their multi GPU solution vs. Nvidia big GPU... The previous round vent to ATI, but the next one will be allso interesting! The bigger guestion is, how about Nvidia middle range solution?

Can you prove that? Provide links

Thats good. The step from 512-bit GDDR3 to 256-bit GDDR5 may be somewhat of a step to the side, but it's MUCH easier to produce, which means that NVIDIA will be able to compete much better.

As far as i know, NVIDIA's GT200 chips are super super expensive to produce, and NVIDIA is not making nearly as much profit as they would like to.... Remember that even the GTX260 was $450 when it came out 7 months ago, but AMD's fantastic HD48xx series took them by surprise, pretty much forcing them to lower their prices.

GDDR5 is awesome.

Why not? Because 7Gbps GDDR5 on a 256 bit bus is actually faster than the current memory (GDDR3 on a 512 bit bus). It may seem like a step backwards, but the difference between this and the G80->G92 transition is that in that case, the memory stayed the same (GDDR3 in both cases), handicapping the G92's bandwidth, while in this case, the bandwidth will actually increase, despite the shrink in bus width.

Whether they do GDDR5 or not is just ignoring the future if they dont. Just like DX10.1, even tho by itself its not a deal breaker, without DX10.1, you cant have DX11, so either way, you still have tp incorporate its abilities for future use. I wouldnt listen to anyone that told me never for GDDR5, cause itd make me wonder what else they may believe heheh

Ranger, I hope your not refering to that Fudzilla thread you posted, cause that said GDDR5 for the G200b, not for the GT212, and it also said GDDR5 on 512bit.

I don't know who you're talking about but depending on the context I can understand the 'never' just like so many people were talking about those very same rumours before, which won't happen.

A 256bit GDDR5 refresh was pretty much on the table since about the second week of the HD4K launch, but a mega monolithic G200 refresh was always seen as a 'never' situation (especially when discussing what to do about an already expensive chip).

Anywho ala Bond: "Never Say Never Again"

Dead thread was dead. I have heard nothing on this since.. I wouldn't count on seeing a GT212.

In the future don't res an old thread on a spesific topic unless you plan to add to the topic.. Here I was thinking some new info on this card ever being made was at hand . I miss the talk about card naming! We need a GTX289.9+ and an ATI 4995x2XT