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I have 8 gig but only 2.5gig showing, help plz

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Hi guys,

I put together my computer yesturday, and now when i go under "My Computer" I right click on it and go under properties, it is showing 2.5gig !!!! when I have 4 dimms of 2gig PC800 each Kingston, the ones that are approved for this mobotherboard. I have the 780 SLI. I just reflash the BIOS and still nothing. I am a noob in need of help. Please guys.

Thanks.

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You did not tell us what operating system you were using. I'm using you use a 64-bit OS? If so, you may need to enable memory remapping feature in BIOS.

Reply to sub mesa

I have XP Pro 32-bit.

Reply to redatassi

That's why, its 32bit. In order to make use of more than 4gb you need a 64bit OS.

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Reply to cliffro

Ok, then why is it showing 2.5gig and not 4gig? How can I make it show and use 4 gigs. Thanks for fast reply guys

Reply to redatassi

2GB is the usual limit for 32-bit, although with PAE you can extend the memory; but still with limitations. In no instance can a 32-bit application address more than 2GB (unless its compiled in a special way allowing up to 3GB addressing).

Consider a 64-bit OS if you run more than 4GB RAM.

Reply to sub mesa

And if i can download XP Pro 64-bit can I use the same key as for the 32-bit?

Reply to redatassi

XP pro 64 has driver issues.

You need vista 64 or windows 7 64

Reply to daship

now if i buy a 64-bit should i go for vista ultimate 64 or xp pro 64, main use gaming. Thanks.

Reply to redatassi

ok, that answers my question

Reply to redatassi

EVEN WITH A 64 BIT OS YOU WONT SEE ANY IMPROVEMENT WITH IF YOU USE MORE THAN 3-4 GB OF RAM

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2264.html

 


Even the latest systems cant really use more than 3 gig even if they can address it .

 


PS buying XP 64 bit is crazy . MS dont support it and there isnt that much driver support .

 

PPS buying vista 64 ultimate is even sillier because its just home premium with the features of vista business added so its a complete waste of money . Buy home premium for gaming and home use


Message edited by Outlander_04 on 04-19-2009 at 12:22:58 AM
Reply to Outlander_04

Can you tell me what games use 8GB? Especially since like all games are still 32-bit so can only use 2GB maximum....

You might be best off installing a version of Windows 7 64-bit. :P

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Reply to sub mesa

sub mesa wrote :

Can you tell me what games use 8GB? Especially since like all games are still 32-bit so can only use 2GB maximum....

You might be best off installing a version of Windows 7 64-bit. :P




Good point .

People can see how much RAM a game uses by running the game in a window and having a look at windows task manager . Crysis was never using more than 1 gig of RAM on my computer .

More RAM isnt better ... its just more

Reply to Outlander_04

More RAM would allow the game to store more (like bigger levels/environments). But that wont happen right now since games are only 32-bit and 64-bit games will not become common until amd64 is common, which may even happen after Windows 7. IMO it was a mistake to ship Windows 7 32-bit; it could have been a great moment to go 64-bit only.

But as people at home are still using 32-bit operating systems, there sure aren't going to be many 64-bit capable games out there that can use more than 2GB memory. 1) not many games need so much RAM and 2) too few customers have 64-bit capable OS so it will not be commercially attractive right now.

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Reply to sub mesa

Which, IMO is a shame because Vista64 is beautiful and it works well.

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Reply to halcyon

They should have never made a 32-bit version after XP, that would have helped. :)

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Reply to sub mesa

cliffro wrote :

In order to make use of more than 4gb you need a 64bit OS.



Or a 32bit OS that is not XP or Vista.

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Reply to theAnimal

redatassi wrote :

Ok, then why is it showing 2.5gig and not 4gig?


Because your video card and other hardware are mapped onto the 4GB.

Quote :

How can I make it show and use 4 gigs.


You cannot.

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Reply to theAnimal

sub mesa wrote :

2GB is the usual limit for 32-bit



4GB is the usual limit for 32-bit (2^32).

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Reply to theAnimal

I was thinking that no matter OS you use, if it's 32 bit it will only adress max 4gb, because of "the 2^32 thing" ??? :)

Reply to FlorinR

As for ultimate or home premium there is very little reason for the average person to pick up ultimate over home premium. However the ultimate verision does come with a very simple disk imaging utility. It not as robust as something like acronis but it is more reliable especially with raid setups. IMO it's worth the extra 60 bucks alone.

Also dream scene (allows you to set video as a desktop background) and bitlocker (data encryption) are included. Just food for thought. Virtual PC 2007 is available as a free download for ultimate, xp pro and I think business users. great way to use those xp apps that just won't work in vista.


Message edited by PsyKhiqZero on 04-19-2009 at 11:23:21 AM
Reply to PsyKhiqZero

The best thing the OP can do at this point is simply return 4 gig of the memory, or sell it to someone else. Right now, there is no reason to run out and buy Vista.
It is going to be obsolete in a few months with the official release of 7.
Don't waste money on buying Vista. It is simply not worth it. Just keep your XP pro for now.
XP will not use all the memory if you have 4 gig installed, but that is okay. It will still make use of all it can. The extra doesn't hurt anything. And later, when you do decide to upgrade the OS to 7, you are set.
But to that end, you still don't need 8 gig. That is simply overkill, and you'll never need that much.

Reply to jitpublisher

I'd suggest downloading a recent build of Windows 7 x64.

sub mesa your data is a bit off, as subAnimal pointed out. 32-bit Windows can address exactly 4GB of memory space. There is a certain amount of this addressable space reserved for the BIOS and OS, as well as every byte of memory belonging to attached devices (including but not limited to video cards). So what you end up with is a usable/addressable space of approximately 3-3.5GB, depending on the configuration of the OS and attached devices.

Reply to mtyermom

[quotemsg=1817233,23,95014]sub mesa your data is a bit off, as subAnimal pointed out. 32-bit Windows can address exactly 4GB of memory space.[/quote]
But applications cannot. They are limited to 2GiB. They can address up to 3GiB if they are specially compiled with /LARGEADDRESSAWARE and /3GB flags, but very few applications do this. Games like World of Warcraft don't, in any case. So their actual memory space is limited to 2GiB, not 4GiB.

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Reply to sub mesa

FlorinR wrote :

I was thinking that no matter OS you use, if it's 32 bit it will only adress max 4gb, because of "the 2^32 thing" ??? :)



Most 32 bit OSes can address > 4GB of RAM using PAE.

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Reply to theAnimal

sub mesa wrote :

[quotemsg=1817233,23,95014]sub mesa your data is a bit off, as subAnimal pointed out. 32-bit Windows can address exactly 4GB of memory space.[/quote]
But applications cannot. They are limited to 2GiB. They can address up to 3GiB if they are specially compiled with /LARGEADDRESSAWARE and /3GB flags, but very few applications do this. Games like World of Warcraft don't, in any case. So their actual memory space is limited to 2GiB, not 4GiB.



The OP was not asking about applications.

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Reply to theAnimal

Still, he may have thought that 8GB available in 32-bit also meant that applications could actually use that amount of space; which is not true. With apps limited to 2GB each, an 8GB 32-bit system might not make much sense, unless its a server with many processes so the memory can be divided nicely.

If you require applications to be able to use more than 2GB (or 3GB with the compile tweak) you need a 64-bit OS and a 64-bit application.

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Reply to sub mesa

Right, even though with more memory(not saying 8gb) a game may only use so much, but what about the other programs running in the background and the OS? they need RAM too.

My experience has been, with 2gb, Alt-Tabbing out of a high memory usage game is a pain but still works albeit slowly. With 4gb its much much quicker.

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