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Sunbeam Core contact freezer coming. Should I use the thermal paste?

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May 7, 2010 5:07:47 AM

or use arctic silver 5?

i read reports that say using the thermal paste that came with the heatsink is best because it was made just for the particular heat sink. Is this true?

Or would I be better of just applying the arctic silver 5?
a c 190 K Overclocking
May 7, 2010 5:52:30 AM

up to you, just make sure you DO use some paste :p 
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May 7, 2010 7:02:31 AM

If it comes with the TX2 (which came with mine), I believe the TX2 would be better than the AS5. I've seen some reviews before, and the AS5 has been surpassed long ago.
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May 7, 2010 4:58:06 PM

amnotanoobie said:
If it comes with the TX2 (which came with mine), I believe the TX2 would be better than the AS5. I've seen some reviews before, and the AS5 has been surpassed long ago.



Yea I've read the same thing. I think I'll have to try both though since I already bought the arctic 5 for $10. It won't be a hassle since the sunbeam clamps onto the stock motherboard clamp
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a b K Overclocking
May 7, 2010 5:33:08 PM

While AS5 has been surpassed, it is by no means a poor TIM.
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May 7, 2010 11:36:12 PM

Okay so I just received my heatsink and installed it. I am using the TX2 thermal paste that came with the heatsink and I'm getting about 52celsius in prime 95 with all 4 cores @ 100%. I haven't tried the arctic silver yet. I'll probably try it in a week.
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a b K Overclocking
May 7, 2010 11:40:37 PM

What is your processor?
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a c 86 K Overclocking
May 8, 2010 4:08:26 AM

386 25 mhz I think.

I actually had one of those, before many here was born. 1987?
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May 8, 2010 5:32:59 AM

Conumdrum said:
386 25 mhz I think.

I actually had one of those, before many here was born. 1987?


25mhz was pretty serious business. I remember my family buying a 486 33mhz 4 megs of ram 125megabyte hard drive for like $4000 when it first came out.
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May 8, 2010 5:33:50 AM

Just an update. I am now getting 55c in prime 95 with a 1.45 voltage @3.8ghz phenom II 955be. I crashed with a 1.4volt so I had to up it a little.
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May 8, 2010 5:33:55 AM

EXT64 said:
What is your processor?


phenom ii x4 955be
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a b K Overclocking
May 8, 2010 12:39:47 PM

Those are good temps for that high a voltage/clock.
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a b K Overclocking
May 8, 2010 3:34:23 PM

tuesday0180 said:
....... I haven't tried the arctic silver yet. I'll probably try it in a week.

I would be very interested in hearing your findings with thee AS5 and the CCF. Originally when I was looking at a/m coolers I thought I'd try some ocz freeze this time instead of AS5,but decided to try the tx-2 the CCF provided. I am liking the tx-2 so far. If you get around trying thee AS5 let us know what you find...
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May 11, 2010 3:23:36 AM

JofaMang said:
While AS5 has been surpassed, it is by no means a poor TIM.


It's not a poor TIM, but being electrically conductive adds another possible area of trouble. If you apply too much, and it reaches the socket, or somewhere else, then your cpu could regularly shutdown or even fry the chip.

Also the other problem with AS5 is the curing time, which is about 200+ hrs of use, with some number of heat-up and cool-down cycles. Most newer TIM's have little to no curing time.
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a b K Overclocking
May 11, 2010 11:07:53 AM

It is not electrically conductive. Silver itself is, but while AS5 contains silver, it is not a pure silver paste. An electrically conductive TIM would destroy parts, and the company that made it would be bankrupt.

If someone applies so much as5 as to have it running down into the socket, they deserve whatever they get (a frustrating cleanup, and thats about it). Do some research before you make ridiculous claims like this.

As for the curing time, so what? Again, while there is better, AS5 is not bad, and will give better performance than the no-name TIMs that are often supplied with HSFs. A cure time doesn't reduce it's overal effectiveness, it just requires a procedure to get to optimal performance. I fail to see your point, other than taking the chance to get a hate-on for AS5. I don't even use AS5 anymore, I switched to MX-2 a while ago, and am glad to have done so, but just because I gained a degree or two, doesn't mean AS5 was worthless crap.
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May 12, 2010 3:41:32 AM

JofaMang said:
It is not electrically conductive. Silver itself is, but while AS5 contains silver, it is not a pure silver paste. An electrically conductive TIM would destroy parts, and the company that made it would be bankrupt.

If someone applies so much as5 as to have it running down into the socket, they deserve whatever they get (a frustrating cleanup, and thats about it). Do some research before you make ridiculous claims like this.


From arctic's own site: http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm
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Not Electrically Conductive:
Arctic Silver 5 was formulated to conduct heat, not electricity.
(While much safer than electrically conductive silver and copper greases, Arctic Silver 5 should be kept away from electrical traces, pins, and leads. While it is not electrically conductive, the compound is very slightly capacitive and could potentially cause problems if it bridges two close-proximity electrical paths.)


I've been around long enough the block to know that AS5 does work well, was regarded as the king of TIMs for a certain point in time, and that it has the possibility to cause problems when you put too much. (I reiterate, possibility, not a guaranteed thing).


JofaMang said:
As for the curing time, so what? Again, while there is better, AS5 is not bad, and will give better performance than the no-name TIMs that are often supplied with HSFs. A cure time doesn't reduce it's overal effectiveness, it just requires a procedure to get to optimal performance. I fail to see your point, other than taking the chance to get a hate-on for AS5. I don't even use AS5 anymore, I switched to MX-2 a while ago, and am glad to have done so, but just because I gained a degree or two, doesn't mean AS5 was worthless crap.


The guy had MX-2 which has no curing time compared to AS5. So comparing MX-2 to the AS5, I'd choose the MX-2 naturally.

Please read the whole thread before bash-posting. Thanks.
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a c 86 K Overclocking
May 12, 2010 4:32:35 AM

And in pro tests AS5 is showing it's age. There are better pastes.

In a pinch though, I'd use AS5 if it's all I had and I'd leave it as AS5 till I needed to redo the HS, maybe 6 months later or longer.
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a b K Overclocking
May 12, 2010 10:10:01 AM

I don't understand your excitement, amnotanoobie. All i have said is that AS5 is still a good TIM, and that if you can't apply it without making a massive mess, then you deserve whatever you get, which is usually just an annoying cleanup.

I have spoken no falsities, but go ahead, get the drama out if it makes you feel better.
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May 12, 2010 11:17:52 AM

JofaMang said:
I don't understand your excitement, amnotanoobie. All i have said is that AS5 is still a good TIM, and that if you can't apply it without making a massive mess, then you deserve whatever you get, which is usually just an annoying cleanup.

I have spoken no falsities, but go ahead, get the drama out if it makes you feel better.


These are your fighting words:
JofaMang said:
...Do some research before you make ridiculous claims like this.

JofaMang said:

...I fail to see your point, other than taking the chance to get a hate-on for AS5.


I do my research, I backed up my claims, and I never did say that AS5 was bad. Watch what you say, that is all.
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