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December 18, 2008 5:03:35 AM

Background:

Have a 2 year old Dell inspiron 9400 laptop that i used for gaming and school. core duo 2.0 Ghz 1gb ram geforce 7900.
Plan on using this rig for gaming (COD 4/5, SC2, E:TW, TF2) and maybe CAD

I'm trying to advoid buying another dell (2 video cards and a harddrive lucky i got a free 3 year warrenty) but i haven't built a system before and thus open to any advice. I'm still a student and would like to keep a budget but I'm willing to spend a few extra if the part is better in the long run.

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

SAPPHIRE 100245L Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

OCZ StealthXStream OCZ600SXS 600W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

CORSAIR XMS3 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TR3X3G1333C9 - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

MSI X58 Platinum LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

The price for the above is about $1300 CND

I'm not really sure about the PSU and I don't know if i should get a IDE or SATA HDD. i'm also planing on getting vista 64 bit edition and have a 22" monitor

I plan on upgrading as needed like another 3GB of ram first, maybe buy another card down the road and crossfire them. Also I do not plan on overclocking the system at first but maybe down the road upgrade the cooling and try

And I'm canadian and I know newegg.com and .ca sometimes have different deals but if you can please link .ca

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December 18, 2008 11:28:16 AM

First off nice pc build. Secondly dont be discouraged by assembly trust me theres many people to help you along the way and this thing will destroy any dell. Now as for whether you should use ide or sata.. definatly sata. If you didnt get sata that would be like having a ferrari with a toyota camry engine :p  FOr a student budget you seem to still have some money on you so forsure invest in good quality cooling. I can already tell you that your psu will be your downside in future proofing.. Im sitting with a 1000w in my room and it has 4 6pin pci and 2 8pin pci connectors.. That psu is most likely only good for 1 ati card thus killing all hope of crossfire. Everything sounds good otherwise just make sure everything is compatible that is number 1. Ill be interested to see how that core i7 works out and definatly get 64 bit vista. Newegg angers me with the canadian/american prices considering that its like 50$ cheaper for everything in states. But yea building a system is like playing with lego. Just make sure you get all the power connectors in and youll be set.. Most things like Power supplies, cases, mobo etc will actually explain installation so you should be alright, but if u need help u know where to find us
December 18, 2008 11:36:50 AM

This isn't to bad of a build. Few suggestions from my end. If you plan on doing upgrades as you go it might not hurt to go with crosair 750w psu. Or try snabbing one of the antec case + PSU TPQ deals.

I'd also reccomend upgrading to 3x2gbs sticks of ram.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
This would help your gaming out quite a bit. Ontop of that its really hard on a motherboard to fill up the ram slots.

Sorry if these reccomendations bring your price up but you've got a pretty solid build. Matm1234 is probally giving some good advise with getting a better cooler, but if your not doing overclocking asap this is something that can probally be purchased later on down the road.
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December 18, 2008 11:36:59 AM

At that budget you would be better off avoiding i7. Take the extra $200 or so you spent for i7 and you get far more performance from a GPU upgrade.

Q9550
P45 MB
4GB RAM
4870 1GB
SATA HDD
PC P&C 750W

That would come to about the same or less, and give you more performance. You could even get more with a quality CPU cooler and an overclock.
December 18, 2008 11:47:14 AM

I'd agree with proximon in this case, but it does not leave you much of an upgrade path in the future. If your dedicated to doing upgrades in the future for your rig, go with the i7. If not then go with proximons suggestions.
December 18, 2008 12:25:59 PM

I agree with Proximon. The Q9550/HD 4870 1GB combo beats the i920/HD 4850 combo in games, AFAIK. As for future upgrade path, just make sure you get a P45 with Crossfire support (Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P, Asus P5Q Pro or P5Q-E, etc.).
Upgrading the CPU is really not an issue with either Q9550 or i920, IMO, because by the time either of those is not enough Intel will have moved away from LGA1366 and you'd need a new MB anyway to use the latest CPUs.

Try sites like www.ncix.com and www.memoryexpress.com for example.

December 18, 2008 8:18:16 PM

still looking at the i7 rig i will try to price a non i7 rig tho which psu should i upgrade to, i notice one won't help much

OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI 700W ATX12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

PC Power & Cooling S61EPS 610W Continuous @ 40°C EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
December 19, 2008 11:57:17 AM

The PC Power & Cooling is a big higher quality, and the GameXStream more powerful. They are both around $85 after rebates.

Get this Silencer 750W. Same price, better than both, lots of PCI-E connectors. That's the one I got myself :)  It's Anandtech's PSU of the Year for 2007, btw.

PC Power & Cooling S75CF 750W
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341011
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