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$850 budget gaming pc what do you think?

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December 21, 2008 5:03:01 PM

I'm in the market for a new budget gaming pc that's around $800. This is what I came up with intel core duo e8400 $164, 2 ati sapphire 4830 in crossfire $209, wd caviar green 640gb $70, asus rampage formula x48 $150 open box buy, 8gb corsair dominator ram $78, ABs full tower case $100 and a his crossfire bridge 10$. I already have a soundcard, optical drives and psu. I haven't built a computer in a few years and I was just looking for any helpful input. It will be used mostly for gaming and my wife's pictures.

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a b 4 Gaming
December 21, 2008 5:33:17 PM

* 8 gb's isn't needed and I'd use the extra $ saved on other parts.
* I'd get the WD AAKS 640 gb HD for $75, green version is slower.
* I'd go with a p45 based mobo, it'll crossfire well, just not 16x x 16x. Shouldn't really matter too much.
* Might as well get 4870, depending on monitor resolution.
* I'd go with the e5200 (2.5 ghz) and OC it to 3-3.2 gHz speeds (pretty easy to do)

What PSU do you have, this is probably one of the most important parts of your build??
What OS are you going to use?? Vista Home Premium 64 bit is one that I'd consider for about $100.
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December 21, 2008 5:45:17 PM

My psu is a antec neo550w. I saw a review on 2 sapphire 4830's beating a gtx 280 at1/2 the price so isn't that a better and cheaper setup than the 4870? I'll agree an the HD. Can you elaborate on why you would get a different mobo. Isn't the asus a steal at that price? Thanks in advance..
December 21, 2008 7:23:24 PM

Anyone else have any thoughts? I want to order by tomorrow so I can have it by the end of the year.
a b 4 Gaming
December 21, 2008 8:17:32 PM

The "open box" mobo's are a hit and miss situation. You don't usually get any of the cable that would come with the mobo, if you bought it normally (Retail version). The 4830's in crossfire isn't a bad idea, but not all games are going to take advantage of a SLI/Xfire setup, so keep that in mind.

* What resolution are you going to be gaming under??
a b 4 Gaming
December 21, 2008 8:22:12 PM

The joke is on you and anybody who thinks two of those are better that a GTX280. Higher frame rates don't mean a hill of beans. It's how the card performs especially when the going gets tough. That's where high memory comes into effect. I don't know what games you'll be playing but something to keep in mind is that Xfire doesn't scale well in more games that sli does...... not rooting for sli-ing 2 cards but a faster single card would be better.

I wouldn't try and shave off money by buying an open box item. It may be ok but there may be some things you might need in the retail box. Cabling, CD with mother board drivers ( the one you'll need so you can connect to the net to get the rest of the stuff you'll need ) Crossfire bridge........ which by the way should come with the cards. don't know why you ordered another one...??? One came with my card.

4gig of memory should be more than enough IMO. cost cut right there. A p45 mother board... perhaps a DFI with the ( JR ) monicker on it micro atx design....... it's a good board and should be cheaper than the open box you mentioned by now.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Whatever....... let us know what you did.



December 21, 2008 8:35:38 PM

+1 for lunyone's suggestion

cpu:e5200, OC and save the money. $83
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

gpu: 1 4870 with the money you saved on the cpu. $199
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mobo: A new p45 will be fine with 1 4870. $117 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

those 3 things are $399 vs the 3 you had $520.

4G of RAM. save the $20-30 to.

with one video card no need for crossfire bridge, besides all cards come with one. save that $10.
a b 4 Gaming
December 21, 2008 9:58:55 PM

Yes and no. Somewhat favored for either ATI product or towards cpu utilized games. They missed the best all time graphics card killer, Crysis. Do I need to tell you why ? Having said that, up where I told you some games are not good in Xfire should be a clue. One of those cards aren't great at running many things.... some of which were in the graphs....... although they favored xfire you get to see what 1 card can do in THOSE games also...but what about games the cards suck in ? and if that particular game isn't Xfire supported ?

You seem to have your mind set on Xfire but I think you should concentrate on a single high end card. I have a 4870/512 card. I wouldn't recommend it, but having said that, what resolution are you going to be playing on and what kind of monitor ? that has determining factors also.
December 21, 2008 10:25:36 PM

Although 2 4830's beat a 4870, you leave no room for upgrade. Get the 4870 and then when you save up you still have your extra slot for another 4870. That is if you're intent on crossfire.

a b 4 Gaming
December 21, 2008 10:58:11 PM

WHAT RESOLUTION WILL YOU BE GAMING UNDER??? I think this has been asked several times and you have been ignoring it. This simple question will let us know what will work best for you. PLEASE answer the question.
a b 4 Gaming
December 21, 2008 11:26:18 PM




HOW IN THEE HELL DO YOU DELETE ONE OF YOUR POSTS ?????????????????
December 21, 2008 11:36:26 PM

ok, 2 4830's will be obsolete as soon as you buy them. There is no room for growth. A 4870 now gives you the ability to get a second 4870 later when the price is way down. Just build with that in mind.

edit: +1 for boomhower, just saw his reply.

if xfire is a certainty later, then i would stick with an x48. I know some reviews say the difference between 2-x16 and 2-x8 aren't that big, but if it were me and i was surely going xfire, i would stick with x48. With the cheaper cpu, you can afford the x48.
December 22, 2008 12:08:19 AM

1920x1200 on a cheapo 24" lcd sceptre . Playing crysis, farcry2, left4dead all the new fps games
December 22, 2008 12:13:41 AM

I'm not dead set on all the components, I was just wondering what everyone else thought. So what exactly would you guys get with that kind of a budget and why? It will be for gaming mostly.
a b 4 Gaming
December 22, 2008 12:13:49 AM

a GTX280 - A GTX260 - A4870/1gig............ in that order.
a b 4 Gaming
December 22, 2008 3:02:47 AM

Yes that is a good deal on a good PSU. It has 35A on the 12v rail, so it'll handle any single GPU out on the market!!
Recap:
CPU - $83 e5200 OC it to 3-3.2 on stock CPU HSF!!
Mobo - $100-125 p45 based Mobo, Gigabyte UD3P or UD3R are good ones!!
GPU - $200-250 4870 1 gb or nVidia gtx 260 216 core would be good buys!
Memory - $50 4 gb's of DDR2 800 mHz CAS4 (4-4-4-12 timings) on stock 1.8v!!
G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
Case - $60 shipped! Antec 300 at Buy.com
PSU - $97 - $17 promo code - $25 MIR = $55!!! Hard to beat that deal!!
PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500D 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
or
Use your Neo 550w PSU, which is plenty of power for what you want to do!! This would save you $ too for a better single GPU!!
DVD Burner - ~$30 Retail version so you get the software to read/burn DVD's!
LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner - Retail

Total ~$600 w/4870 or gtx 260 and using your Neo PSU.
Total ~$660 w/PCP&C 500w PSU and 4870/gtx260.
Total ~$700 w/4870/gtx260 and Vista Home Premium 64 bit OS

Now I'm not sure which way you want to go, so I listed a few of the options that you can consider. I'd still go with a higher end single GPU over get lower 4830's crossfired. That way if you want more power later, you just add another 4870 GPU later.
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