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May 21, 2010 11:56:19 AM

Which is the best among these two heatsinks?

I am using Thermalright Venomous X with ChillFactor 2 TIM w/ 2xScythe Slipstream 110.31 CFM 1900 RPM in PUSH/PULL Config. I have oc'ed my Q9650 to 3.6 GHz with 1.26250V and the max temp I got while prime95 small FFT's test is 55-58 on the 1st core.

Are these temps any gud?

Can I improve these temps?

The cable management in my cabby is #1 top notch

How can I improve temps if there is any chance to improve?

An early reply is requested

Thanku all
May 21, 2010 12:11:02 PM

grab IC Diamond, take off heatsink, apply paste, re-seat heatsink. let me know the result
May 21, 2010 12:11:57 PM

IC Diamond is not available in India
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May 21, 2010 12:13:18 PM

abhi_jollyguy said:
IC Diamond is not available in India


maybe not in stores, but can try online, thats how i got myself some IC diamond in china.
May 21, 2010 12:22:20 PM

no online shops in india is providing IC Diamond, between can u tell me how much difference will be there in temps with using IC Diamond carat TIM's
May 21, 2010 12:23:31 PM

The PROLIMATECH MEGAHALEMS is a bit better cooler than the Thermalright one. Anyway, both are first line products. If you have a Venomous X, I woudn't buy a Megahalems. In my opinion It would be a waste of money.

Here you have a interesting article about this matter:

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

Anyway, take in mind that the air flow inside the case is a very very important aspect. A good case can give you wings.
May 21, 2010 12:27:16 PM

Henry Chinaski said:
The PROLIMATECH MEGAHALEMS is a bit better cooler than the Thermalright one. Anyway, both are first line products. If you have a Venomous X, I woudn't buy a Megahalems. In my opinion It would be a waste of money.

Here you have a interesting article about this matter:

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

Anyway, take in mind that the air flow inside the case is a very very important aspect. A good case can give you wings.



But in many reviews, it is showing that venomoux X is lil bit better than Megahalem that is why I have chosen Venomous X over Megahalem
May 21, 2010 12:32:55 PM

Anyways How is OCZ Freeze Extreme TIM???
May 21, 2010 1:08:22 PM

abhi_jollyguy said:
Anyways How is OCZ Freeze Extreme TIM???


ocz freeze is about the same as arctic silver 5, doesnt require any curing time tho, so before arctic silver is fully cured, ocz freeze is better.
May 21, 2010 1:12:46 PM

So Should I buy OCZ Freeze and will it really make the difference in temps ??? Please tell me, Will it be better than ChillFactor 2 ???
May 21, 2010 1:19:11 PM

Actually there are 2 variants of OCZ Freeze

One is OCZ Freeze and the other one is OCZ Freeze Extreme, OCZ freeze not manufactured anymore so OCZ Freeze Extreme is what am talking about
May 21, 2010 2:33:16 PM

I would say OCZ freeze extreme is better than Chillfactor 2, but whenever you are dealing with something like this, its subjective, the results vary from user to user, depends how you applied the paste, how much you've applied, how flat the base of your cooler is, how well its in contact with cpu etc.
whereas one user could make any thermal paste look like crap by applying it the wrong way.
May 21, 2010 3:15:40 PM

One question

Do Tuniq TX-3 needs curing time?????
May 21, 2010 8:01:54 PM

abhi_jollyguy said:
But in many reviews, it is showing that venomoux X is lil bit better than Megahalem that is why I have chosen Venomous X over Megahalem


They are very close. Anyway, in my opinion the Megahalems is a better cooler.
May 22, 2010 5:04:12 AM

Henry Chinaski said:
They are very close. Anyway, in my opinion the Megahalems is a better cooler.


Why do u think so that Megahalem is a better cooler?
May 22, 2010 8:04:05 AM

abhi_jollyguy said:
Why do u think so that Megahalem is a better cooler?


cooling performances aside, (because they are very close)

the Megahalem has possibly one of the most genius mounting design, while it doesnt sound like much, but once you really use it, you'll really appreciate how easy it is to set it up and keep asking yourself why nobody else used this method.

mounting the Megahalem is effortless, all can be done with just your fingers (tool-less), and it will not cause leave any chance to possible side-effects to the motherboard, because eveything is either "in" or "not". From past experience I've had my share of crappy cooler designs that nearly destroyed my motherboard, one where you can keep tightening the screws without knowing how "far" you went, and it ended up warping my mobo beyond repair. I've even had those clip-on ones where you can clip em on and noway to take em off.

To tighten the Megahalem, you get 2 spring-loaded screws that you can turn with Ur hand, and the screw simply stops turning at a certain point, it really takes any guess-work out of the process.
May 22, 2010 8:15:20 AM

arterius2 said:
cooling performances aside, (because they are very close)

the Megahalem has possibly one of the most genius mounting design, while it doesnt sound like much, but once you really use it, you'll really appreciate how easy it is to set it up and keep asking yourself why nobody else used this method.

mounting the Megahalem is effortless, all can be done with just your fingers (tool-less), and it will not cause leave any chance to possible side-effects to the motherboard, because eveything is either "in" or "not". From past experience I've had my share of crappy cooler designs that nearly destroyed my motherboard, one where you can keep tightening the screws without knowing how "far" you went, and it ended up warping my mobo beyond repair. I've even had those clip-on ones where you can clip em on and noway to take em off.

To tighten the Megahalem, you get 2 spring-loaded screws that you can turn with Ur hand, and the screw simply stops turning at a certain point, it really takes any guess-work out of the process.


Well I have mounted My Venomous X twice and Mounting Venomous X on my motherboard is just like eating a piece of cake. Thermalright has done an awesome job here in mounting the cooler as well as cooling is thermalright's speciality.

I am just confused between TIM's that which one to buy:

1. Arctic Silver 5 Polysynthetic Thermal Compound
2. Gelid GC-Extreme
3. Tuniq TX-3
4. Cooler Master ThermalFusion 400 RG-TF4-TGU1-GP
5. OCZ Freeze Extreme
6. Arctic Cooling MX-2
7. Prolimatech PK-1

Which one will be the best for Venomous X base and it's base finish????????????????????
May 22, 2010 8:31:32 AM

abhi_jollyguy said:
Well I have mounted My Venomous X twice and Mounting Venomous X on my motherboard is just like eating a piece of cake. Thermalright has done an awesome job here in mounting the cooler as well as cooling is thermalright's speciality.

I am just confused between TIM's that which one to buy:

1. Arctic Silver 5 Polysynthetic Thermal Compound
2. Gelid GC-Extreme
3. Tuniq TX-3
4. Cooler Master ThermalFusion 400 RG-TF4-TGU1-GP
5. OCZ Freeze Extreme
6. Arctic Cooling MX-2
7. Prolimatech PK-1

Which one will be the best for Venomous X base and it's base finish????????????????????


word of mouth says that IC Diamond is current the best thermal paste so far, but Arctic Silver 5 and OCZ Freeze Extreme is the next best thing, with AS5 being a crowd favorite, and OCZ Freeze Extreme with similar performance without needing cure time. there are some who also swear by Arctic Cooling MX-2, but i've yet to see consistent reviews on this for me to drop my skepticism.
May 22, 2010 8:39:37 AM

arterius2 said:
word of mouth says that IC Diamond is current the best thermal paste so far, but Arctic Silver 5 and OCZ Freeze Extreme is the next best thing, with AS5 being a crowd favorite, and OCZ Freeze Extreme with similar performance without needing cure time. there are some who also swear by Arctic Cooling MX-2, but i've yet to see consistent reviews on this for me to drop my skepticism.


IC Diamond has got A- in this test

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
May 22, 2010 8:42:10 AM

abhi_jollyguy said:
IC Diamond has got A- in this test

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...


I'm careful with my wording, hence is why I said "word of mouth", I didnt say OMG IC DIAMOND BEST THERMAL PASTE EVAAAA, BUY ITTTTTT,

just off the record, benchmarkreviews isnt exactly the most reliable source of information, shouldnt base your judgement on just one review site. Im still a little skeptic with it myself, however, ive order a tube and will give it a test when it arrives.
May 22, 2010 8:48:28 AM

arterius2 said:
I'm careful with my wording, hence is why I said "word of mouth", I didnt say OMG IC DIAMOND BEST THERMAL PASTE EVAAAA, BUY ITTTTTT,

shouldnt base your judgement on just one review site. im still a little skeptic with it myself, however, ive order a tube and will give it a test when it arrives.


ok and also let me know the performance of this TIM when u will test it. Anyways IC Diamond is not available in india nor in indian online shops or if I will order it from site like www.performance-pcs.com so it will cost me thrice so this TIM is out of My TIM's List
May 22, 2010 11:44:08 AM

actually, looking at IC Diamond's main page, there are benchmarked charts of various thermal pastes. The humor in all this is that Coolaboratory Liquid Pro TIM consistently put better numbers than their own IC Diamond product: http://www.innovationcooling.com/

So what did I do? just ordered a tube of Coolaboratory Liquid Ultra (updated product to Pro version) to give it a spin.

thank you Innovation Cooling.

May 22, 2010 12:46:28 PM

Henry Chinaski said:
Because of the qualified reviews that I have read about this matter. As I said, there is not much difference, but the Megahalems works better if overclocking.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...



I also know that there is not that much difference between the performance of Thermalright Venomous X and Prolimatech Megahalem.

What about these reviews?

http://vr-zone.com/articles/thermalright-venomous-x-rev...

http://vr-zone.com/articles/thermalright-venomous-x-rev...

http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/thermalrig...

http://www.clunk.org.uk/reviews/thermalright-venomous-x...

http://www.vortez.co.uk/contentteller/articles_pages/th...

http://www.vortez.co.uk/contentteller/articles_pages/th...

May 22, 2010 1:03:51 PM



while I do agree that Thermalright venomous x is slightly better than the Prolimatech, you should also take note of ~2C margin of error for these tests. let alone the margin of error created by TIM applications, I get varying results myself by every time I re-seat my heatsink.

also note that Prolimatech Megahalems do not come with fans. Certain fans work better on the Megahalems than other (for example, static pressure/airflow), this in itself make the comparison even more subjective.
May 22, 2010 1:15:26 PM

arterius2 said:
while I do agree that Thermalright venomous x is slightly better than the Prolimatech, you should also take note of ~2C margin of error for these tests. let alone the margin of error created by TIM applications, I get varying results myself by every time I re-seat my heatsink.

also note that Prolimatech Megahalems do not come with fans. Certain fans work better on the Megahalems than other (for example, static pressure/airflow), this in itself make the comparison even more subjective.


The reviews links i have given u tested both the cooler with the same fans and same TIM's. Also Venomous doesn't ship with Fans, so we can choose fans for this beast. Also world knows that Thermalright's cooler works flawlessly with high static pressure fans. For example Kaze ultra, San Ace etc etc.
May 22, 2010 1:18:22 PM

abhi_jollyguy said:
The reviews links i have given u tested both the cooler with the same fans and same TIM's. Also Venomous doesn't ship with Fans, so we can choose fans for this beast. Also world knows that Thermalright's cooler works flawlessly with high static pressure fans. For example Kaze ultra, San Ace etc etc.


gonna say this once again, factor in MARGIN OF ERROR, the sites(albeit not very reliable - clunk.org?? vortez.co??)you linked shows average 1~2 degree difference between the coolers, and using the same TIM doesnt mean anything, I get different temps by just re-seating the same cooler every time (while using the same TIM)

considering you already have Venomous X, i dont see any reason to look into Megahalems, you already have one hell of a cooler.

TO GET BACK ON TOPIC of the original question - "Can I improve my temps" this should really be a TIM/Fan based post, not a cooler vs cooler post.
May 22, 2010 1:23:20 PM

arterius2 said:
gonna say this once again, factor in MARGIN OF ERROR, the reviews you linked shows average 1~2 degree difference between the coolers, and using the same TIM doesnt mean anything, I get different temps by just re-seating the same cooler every time (while using the same TIM)

considering you already have Venomous X, i dont see any reason to look into Megahalems, you already have one hell of a cooler.

TO GET BACK ON TOPIC of the original question - "Can I improve my temps" this should really be a TIM/Fan based post, not a cooler vs cooler post.


I have also said this couple of times that both the cooler are beasts, 1-2 degree here and there are kinda negligible because of various mounting and how TIM is applied and all bla bla

I am just confused between TIM's that which one to buy:

1. Arctic Silver 5 Polysynthetic Thermal Compound
2. Gelid GC-Extreme
3. Tuniq TX-3
4. Cooler Master ThermalFusion 400 RG-TF4-TGU1-GP
5. OCZ Freeze Extreme
6. Arctic Cooling MX-2
7. Prolimatech PK-1

Which one will be the best for Venomous X base and it's base finish????????????????????

Now will someone help me??

Only these TIM's are available here
May 22, 2010 1:26:55 PM

abhi_jollyguy said:
I have althis couple of times that both the cooler are beasts, 1-2 degree here and there are kinda negligible because of various mounting and how TIM is applied and all bla bla

I am just confused between TIM's that which one to buy:

1. Arctic Silver 5 Polysynthetic Thermal Compound
2. Gelid GC-Extreme
3. Tuniq TX-3
4. Cooler Master ThermalFusion 400 RG-TF4-TGU1-GP
5. OCZ Freeze Extreme
6. Arctic Cooling MX-2
7. Prolimatech PK-1

Which one will be the best for Venomous X base and it's base finish????????????????????

Now will someone help me??

Only these TIM's are available here


I can narrow it down to 3 contenders for you:

OCZ Freeze Extreme, Arctic Cooling MX-2, Prolimatech PK-1

all 3 will net you pretty much same results, and if you factor in MARGIN OF ERROR, the differences are negligible, question is, do you really care about your temps this much that half a degree difference will make you not able to sleep at night?

now if i were to make an absolute ruling on this, get the ocz freeze extreme

PS the guys over at the overclockers.com swear by this stuff so yea...
May 22, 2010 1:30:53 PM

arterius2 said:
I can narrow it down to 3 contenders for you:

OCZ Freeze Extreme, Arctic Cooling MX-2, Prolimatech PK-1

all 3 will net you pretty much same results, and if you factor in MARGIN OF ERROR, the differences are negligible, question is, do you really care about your temps this much that half a degree difference will make you not able to sleep at night?

now if i were to make an absolute ruling on this, get the ocz freeze extreme



LOL

Anyways I have concluded this from benchmarkreviews and from someothers too rankwise

1. Arctic Silver 5 Polysynthetic Thermal Compound (upto 200 hours Curing time needed)
2. Gelid GC-Extreme
3. Tuniq TX-3
4. Cooler Master ThermalFusion 400 RG-TF4-TGU1-GP
5. OCZ Freeze Extreme
6. Arctic Cooling MX-2
7. Prolimatech PK-1

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May 22, 2010 1:44:55 PM
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abhi_jollyguy said:
LOL

Anyways I have concluded this from benchmarkreviews and from someothers too rankwise

1. Arctic Silver 5 Polysynthetic Thermal Compound (upto 200 hours Curing time needed)
2. Gelid GC-Extreme
3. Tuniq TX-3
4. Cooler Master ThermalFusion 400 RG-TF4-TGU1-GP
5. OCZ Freeze Extreme
6. Arctic Cooling MX-2
7. Prolimatech PK-1


now let me explain how I made my ruling

1. while AS5 is the crowd favorite around here, you have to take note that this stuff is years old, new technology are being pushed through the door constantly, while I admit the AS5 USED to be the king of TIM, its about time this stuff takes the back seat, because the podium is getting a little more crowded.
2. Gelid GC-Extreme, never used, never heard, not enough reviews. even the reviews that I could find arent exactly spectacular.
3. Same as 2
4. Same as 2
5. Tried and tested by many sites, requently rated as one of the top TIM.
6. Tried and tested, new crowd favorite on some sites
7. I have this stuff myself, actually works a little better than the AS5 without needing curing-time.

I have couple of AS5's lying around, don't think ill be using them much anymore once the new batch of TIMs I ordered come around.
May 22, 2010 2:05:00 PM

arterius2 said:
now let me explain how I made my ruling

1. while AS5 is the crowd favorite around here, you have to take note that this stuff is years old, new technology are being pushed through the door constantly, while I admit the AS5 USED to be the king of TIM, its about time this stuff takes the back seat, because the podium is getting a little more crowded.
2. Gelid GC-Extreme, never used, never heard, not enough reviews. even the reviews that I could find arent exactly spectacular.
3. Same as 2
4. Same as 2
5. Tried and tested by many sites, requently rated as one of the top TIM.
6. Tried and tested, new crowd favorite on some sites
7. I have this stuff myself, actually works a little better than the AS5 without needing curing-time.

I have couple have AS5's lying around, don't think ill be using them much anymore once the new batch of TIMs I ordered come around.



I have narrowed my choices

I will buy any one between these 2

Tuniq TX-3 or OCZ Freeze Extreme

Thanku all
May 22, 2010 2:31:25 PM



It seems we trust different sites...
Anyway, we are saying the same thing: Both are very close.
I would go for the Megahalems because it performs great with minimal airflow fan.
June 1, 2010 5:28:17 AM

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