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Who will take on this Epic Quest to build a comp under 400$

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December 23, 2008 10:12:20 AM

Umm hi guys, I've had my Celeron D Dell computer for awhile now and I seriously need a computer change... I can't run any of the new games that's coming out, but the only problem is that I really don't have any money... This is my first time building a computer... and I really don't know much about it eithere... I've read about it in many places but still don't know which parts to choose. Anyway I am sorry if I am not putting any build on here but as I said I just don't know WHAT TO CHOOSE.
Anyway I am thinking about an AMD build... Can you help me?
I am going to buy from Newegg so things from there would be nice :sweat: .
Oh yeah one thing I need to be able to run for sure is games like Assasins Creed, and Empire Total war stuff like that. Also I would like my dvd player to burn dvd-rs. ANYWAYS TAKE ON THIS QUEST PLEASE!
December 23, 2008 10:52:25 AM

I made it public, but have noticed sometimes it takes a bit to actually be accessible

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=7628314

Quick Rundown of parts Full details can be seen once its actually public

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+

GIGABYTE GA-M61PME-S2 AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 / nForce 430

A-DATA Value Series 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800

Foxconn TPS-544+FA550 Black+Light Silver 0.8mm SGCC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ATX 2.0 550W Power Supply S-ATA/PCI-Express ready SLI ready 12-cm blue LED fan tool-less/screw-less design

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA

EVGA 512-P3-N971-TR GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3

SAMSUNG 20X DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA

$403.91 shipped.

An OS is on you, You could reuse your current one.
December 23, 2008 10:53:46 AM

I just checked it still wants me to login to see it, if you pm me your email address i can just mail it to you.


Edit, it just wants you to be logged in period....i tried with my friends account and it worked.
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December 23, 2008 10:58:38 AM

Pentium Dual Core 2.5Ghz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Gigabyte P35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

WD 500GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Crucial 4GB 800Mhz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Samsung DVD burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Coolermaster Centurion case with 430W PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ATI 4830
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total price $429.76 -- Price with rebate $409.76

That's about the best I'm going to do for that price range.

Dont bother with AMD. (Really)
December 23, 2008 11:16:12 AM

^+1. Mainly considering OCing. E5200 can easily hit 3-3.6Ghz. Only problem I have with that build is PSU. Try and get a better quality one ie. Corsair 450VX. Or even the ST400. Another is OPEN BOX. Be careful with that.
December 23, 2008 11:24:13 AM

Well going on the fact he can only spend 400(hence why he mentioned it) He is going to have to settle with less than Ideal parts especially the PSU.

Its either get a good psu and crap for other components, or ok components with an acceptable PSU.

And that Hard Drive is the same price, size and cache as the one I picked out with a feature that can make it slower. 5400-7200 RPM.....
December 23, 2008 11:29:06 AM

Oh and I abhor ATI cards RMA which is why I stuck with EVGA.
December 23, 2008 11:53:06 AM

+1 for curnel_d's build. The e5200 and 4830 is a nice combo.
December 23, 2008 12:14:46 PM

Curnel_D's build was absolutely sick for the money. Of course we're not counting the price of the keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers and OS... but still... that's one heck of a $400 rig.
December 23, 2008 2:54:47 PM

omg thx guys!!! I am really going with AMD because their price is cheaper and I heard they're pretty good these days...
Anyway I am not sure which build to choose but if I go for Clifros build, is this a good choice for the ram?



The only problem I really have is I really don't have an OS because I bought my old comp from Dell... and I just looked it up online and they're EXPENSIVE! WOOOOOW. So I am going to have to bump it up a notch and put in extra 100$ for the os >_>.
So it this a good pick for the os?


Okay thx guys that's probably it for now... I don't know when Ill be getting this... but Ill take pictures when I finish building it :D 
December 23, 2008 3:21:08 PM

Yes, that's a good pick for the OS. It's the most commonly recommended OS on these forums.

That RAM's OK, but you could do better since it needs 2v to get 4-4-4-12 timings. Here's a couple kits to consider:

mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $45.99 - $20 MIR

G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $49.99

I personally just bought the G.Skill PI Black kit and I'm very happy with it.
December 23, 2008 3:52:56 PM

Here is a Decent Dell with the E7300/2GB/250GB HDD/DVDR for $319
http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=b...

Toss in a moderate Graphics Card such as......

Toss in a graphics card for $80...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


This will get you a complete system for $400 + Shipping including an OS.
The PSU can be upgraded in the future for a more powerful card.
(Note: The HD3650 is a Std Configuration Option so The PSU can easily handle the 4670)

No need to assemble.
Comes with 1yr in home warranty.
December 23, 2008 4:00:16 PM

I'd still go with intel. I'm sure you can find fairly cheap intel cpu's, i dont remember the e2XXX being expensive, though i would advise a newish motherboard, that way you've left yourself open for an easy upgrade if you want later on.

I seem to remember the e2xxx being fairly good overclockers too. Up to you though. Good luck with whatever you decide
December 24, 2008 12:11:47 AM

Yeah I think I am going to go with Curnel-Ds build, and replace the ram with this
mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
for the ram, cuz the ram he picked out doesn't seem to be in stock O_O. I would go with G.Skill, but mushkin has that rebate so.... hmmm I don't really know waht to do.
December 24, 2008 1:02:53 AM

I'd substitute the case/psu combo for a better more reliable PSU. The Antec case w/380w >80% Earthwatts PSU!
$75 shipped. The Cooler Master combo is $80 shipped!
Antec NSK4480 Black/ Silver 0.8mm cold-rolled steel construction ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 380W Power Supply - Retail

also consider a RETAIL version of the DVD burner, so you'll get the software to read/burn DVD's!!
$30 - $10 MIR = $20!!!
ASUS Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 40X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe - Retail
December 24, 2008 3:15:33 AM

lunyone said:


also consider a RETAIL version of the DVD burner, so you'll get the software to read/burn DVD's!!
$30 - $10 MIR = $20!!!
ASUS Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 40X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe - Retail


The OEM Samsung I got from Newegg came with Nero Essentials, i already have Nero 7 so i didnt need it, but still the OEM drive did come with software.
December 24, 2008 4:27:57 AM

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December 24, 2008 9:56:35 AM

@ Jesse
I know what your saying... but the thing is my cd drive CAN'T BURN DVDS!... yeah its sad I know... anyway you've given me a great idea, about getting a really cheap os then writing

This using that... BUT the cheapest OS I could find was 89$... anyone have comments on that? I know its a touchy subject so you don't have to reply...

and to Luny the only downside to that is the case only has 380 watts O_O, but YOU KNOW WAT tat 6mb 3.0 Ghz DOES sound tempting... hmmm I am not good with caculating watts but roughly caculatating it... hmm maybe the 380 watts would work also... I am going to change the parts in a year or so but it would be a shame if it broke down b4 then... can anyone tell me if this is correct? if it is I am definitely going with Lunys comment.

Wait I just noticed lunys comment is way more expensive O_O...
December 24, 2008 10:44:22 AM

You know what guys I am thinking about getting Linux then torrenting vista 64 bit, then installing it.... Would that work? hmmmmmm
Any other clever suggestions? because I really don't want to spend an extra 100 bucks
December 24, 2008 11:01:34 AM

u know wat... I can borrow an os from someone... its prolly going to be xp 32 bit though...
ANYWAYS I need to know if theres going to be internet explorer right when I boot it so I can burn the vista 64 cd.... anyways would tat work? anyone? and can anyone specify if all the parts up there is compatible with vista 64?
December 24, 2008 12:34:10 PM

thefreed said:
u know wat... I can borrow an os from someone... its prolly going to be xp 32 bit though...
ANYWAYS I need to know if theres going to be internet explorer right when I boot it so I can burn the vista 64 cd.... anyways would tat work? anyone? and can anyone specify if all the parts up there is compatible with vista 64?


Does your Neighbor keep his doors and Windows Locked at Night?
If not, you may be able to slip into his office and steal his computer.
It would much cheaper and not any more illegal than your current plan.

Personally, I think both plans are dumb.
December 24, 2008 12:36:09 PM

Note: The 380w PSU is PLENTY of power for the computer you are building.
I actually bought the Anctec 380w Case/PSU combo for one of my builds.

December 24, 2008 12:37:52 PM

zenmaster said:
Does your Neighbor keep his doors and Windows Locked at Night?
If not, you may be able to slip into his office and steal his computer.
It would much cheaper and not any more illegal than your current plan.

Personally, I think both plans are dumb.

:lol:  +1

Anyone who posts trying to help you steal software is in violation of the forum rules. Good luck.
December 25, 2008 3:07:55 AM

posted this in another thread earlier but it works for this one as well;

jyjjy said:
Just a few weeks ago I built a gaming system on a similar budget. Here it is slightly modified because of changes in prices;

Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz 2MB L2 Cache - $83
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Open Box BIOSTAR TForce TP43D2A7 P43 Motherboard - $59 after shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

POWERCOLOR AX4830 512MD3-H Radeon HD 4830 - $110 - 25 = $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD501LJ 500GB - $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ SLI-Ready Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 - $48 - 30 rebate = $18
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HEC 6C28BSX585 Black/Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower 585W PSU - $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA - $21
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total $436 - 55 rebates = $381

Both the HD430 and the e5200 should overclock very well. I got the same CPU/MB and OCed it up to 3.5 ghz easily on stock cooling. Rapes that AMD chip and I'm usually an AMD fan. If you are sketched out about the open box motherboard don't be. From everything I've read they are reliable from newegg and mine worked beautifully. I was actually expecting it to come OEM but it came with everything, box/manual/software/cables, even an extra SATA cable compared to retail. Your results may vary of course but I wouldn't worry about it really.
If you want to save some money I found a new 9600 GSO for $60 shipped on ebay. EVGA, dual slot cooler. It overclocks no problem from 550/1350/800 stock core/shader/memory to 700/1725/1000 which should make it on par with a 9800 GT.
December 25, 2008 4:45:21 AM

Okay just taking everyones suggestions I came up with this.

Cpu
Intel Pentium
E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz 2MB L2 Cache - $83

This for the motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This for the Video card
POWERCOLOR AX4830 512MD3-H Radeon HD 4830
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Drive
SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD501LJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For the case
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 red version FR-T05-URI-GP Black / Red Aluminum Bezel , SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with AC connector 430W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This for the Cd/dvd
LG Black 22X (CAV) DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X (CAV) DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and for the gigs... I don't know which to go with... I am considering
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

can you help me choose the ram?
December 26, 2008 2:54:08 PM

Okay I am going with the g skills ram... anyway thats my final build. Can someone check if everythings compatible? it would be greatly apprecited.
And to everyone Merry late Christmas :D . All you people are real nice, I hope u have a wonderful life because all of you deserve it :p 
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