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Does overclocking a CPU shortens its life span??

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I have a question about overclocking my cpu. If i overclock my CPU does the life span of my CPU decreases or will it be normal?

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In all honesty, nobody's 100% sure. However, there's a very low chance of your CPU dying if you stay within specified temperature and voltage limits.

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Hi, I have a very similar question!

I am running my i7-920 (D0) at 4000 MHz (200x20) with HT on. Are these factors okay/safe/normal if I want my PC to last me until December 2014 (I say that because that will be 5 years since I bought it)?

Voltages that I am using:

-CPU - 1.26 (apparently only using 1.248), temp is 55 C (70 C max when under load..nothing constant though! I am not a very demanding user).

-DRAM - 1.654

-IOH - 1.110

-IOH CSI - 1.16

-VTT - 1.55

-CPU PLL - 1.88

Once again, can anyone please let me know what they think about these temps and voltages? I know 70 C is high, but keep in mind that it only hits that here and there for really brief moments. Most of the time it will be around 55 C, but I think it's important to mention that it does hit 70 C for those brief moments since they can "add up" over time (I guess). I want my PC to last me for about 5 years! :)


UPDATE: My PC froze with those settings..No BSOD, just..froze. Anyone have any suggestions for improving my OC'ing?? BTW, I still want to know about those temperatures please. :)

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Message edited by trancetunes on 05-28-2010 at 11:50:51 AM
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Reply to trancetunes

70 degrees is a bit high especially when overclocking. you may be needing more voltage because 1.26 is not that high. My i3 at 4.0ghz using 1.296v and is stable. Are you using stock cooler and have you run prime 95 for at least 2hours without crash???

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Reply to cromedome

If I run prime95 there is no doubt that the CPU temp will go higher than 70 C. I am giving these temps based off of every day usage. Stability isn't really what I need to know about. If it is unstable I'll just go back to settings that work. :)

I am mainly concerned about the temperature running at 55 C, and sometimes hitting 70 C just for a second if I do something demanding by chance (because I am really not a demanding user..I don't game..I am just learning to be a graphic designer :) ).

Actually one thing that is cool (no pun intended) is that I have been at 50 C with 3990 MHz for the last day...That is a safe temperature right? The highest I've hit is 65 C on one of the cores..

Once again, I am not going to use Prime95 as a test for this because Prime95 is way more intense than my type of usage :P Don't worry about my stability..I am 95% sure the PC is stable with these settings right now. :)

Oh and you wanted to know about my cooler..Yes, it is the stock heatsink+fan+pre applied thermal compound that came with the 920. That's why I want to make sure that 50-55 C running temp is okay, with very brief moments of going to 70 C under load moments.. :)


Message edited by trancetunes on 05-28-2010 at 09:51:54 PM
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Reply to trancetunes

lol
You don't need stability ?
You can damage your windows installation, if your o/c is not stable.
In a recent o/c article here at TH

Quote :

At 4.6 GHz, the machine boots, but quickly crashes and damages the Windows installation while doing so. After a re-install...... http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 617-3.html,

Reply to notty22

I didn't say I don't need it.. I said, "Stability isn't really what I need to know about." That is completely different than saying, "I don't need it." ;)

I checked out that article, so thanks. However, you do realize the guy who wrote it is saying he gave 1.475 volts to the CPU right? I am not going anywhere near that! I am only using 1.26 max (I refuse to go over that). :P However, I am concerned with those temperatures when it comes to this thread, not stability or if my settings work..

I am asking everyone/aynone to assume they DO work and then answer that question about the temps I mentioned:

55 C running temp, 70 C high temp for only really brief moments.. Is that okay if I want my CPU to last me a few years? Also, if someone can let me know if a CPU PLL voltage of 1.88 or 1.90 is safe, I would also really appreciate that!

Thanks for your time and opinions! I hope anyone that reads this decides to give their input as well! I look forward to it! :)


Message edited by trancetunes on 05-28-2010 at 10:56:17 PM
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Reply to trancetunes

trancetunes wrote :

Hi, I have a very similar question!

I am running my i7-920 (D0) at 4000 MHz (200x20) with HT on. Are these factors okay/safe/normal if I want my PC to last me until December 2014 (I say that because that will be 5 years since I bought it)?

Voltages that I am using:

-CPU - 1.26 (apparently only using 1.248), temp is 55 C (70 C max when under load..nothing constant though! I am not a very demanding user).

-DRAM - 1.654

-IOH - 1.110

-IOH CSI - 1.16

-VTT - 1.55

-CPU PLL - 1.88

Once again, can anyone please let me know what they think about these temps and voltages? I know 70 C is high, but keep in mind that it only hits that here and there for really brief moments. Most of the time it will be around 55 C, but I think it's important to mention that it does hit 70 C for those brief moments since they can "add up" over time (I guess). I want my PC to last me for about 5 years! :)


UPDATE: My PC froze with those settings..No BSOD, just..froze. Anyone have any suggestions for improving my OC'ing?? BTW, I still want to know about those temperatures please. :)



IMO you're on your way to frying it with those voltages...

http://download.intel.com/design/p [...] 320834.pdf

ABSOLUTE MAX Vcore: 1.55V
ABSOLUTE MAX Vtt: 1.35V

"At conditions exceeding absolute maximum and minimum ratings, neither functionality
nor long-term reliability can be expected. Moreover, if a device is subjected to these
conditions for any length of time then, when returned to conditions within the
functional operating condition limits, it will either not function or its reliability will be
severely degraded."

I wish people would do a little checking before hopping on the overclock bus.

Reply to wolfram23

Wolfram, thanks a lot for that info!!

I have a question though. Even if I DON'T overclock, I can't get my PC running without a minimum VTT of 1.48... So what do I do/can I do? =/

I know my cpu voltage is good to go (because it's running at 1.248 apparently and I have it set to stock 1.26). However I am also concerned now about that VTT voltage now. Also, what do you say about the CPU PLL being 1.88 and the rest? At stock my CPU PLL is at 1.86 so is 1.88 okay? Is 1.86 even okay?..The rest I don't know anything about..Check it out:
http://i49.tinypic.com/zwden4.jpg

Please do let me know? I greatly appreciate this info!


EDIT: I am trying to use a VTT of 1.34 right now.. I'll let you know if it's not stable.. Please get back to me about those voltages etc? Thank you so much for your time and help! :)


Message edited by trancetunes on 05-29-2010 at 12:43:07 AM
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Reply to trancetunes

The PLL is fine, max is 1.89V... sometimes you need to go over the vtt limit for a high overclock but it probably will do some damage unfortunately.

Reply to wolfram23

Alright, I'm staying at 1.34 VTT right now and I still haven't had any issues. Thanks a lot Wolfram!

On an unrelated note: Have you seen this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60P7717-XOQ When I saw your name I thought of it :P

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Reply to trancetunes

Alright, UPDATE:

I crashed after lowering VTT to 1.34 ...This is the only issue I have left to deal with in terms of my OC'ing.. My temps are pretty normal, and everything seems stable except for when I lower VTT to 1.34

I looked at the Intel specifications and they said that MAX VTT should be 1.35, however my PC won't even run on stock settings unless I use 1.48.. What do I do?

Can someone look at my settings and tell me if there is something else it might have been besides my VTT? (I am feeling like it was VTT because my computer wouldn't even start up all the way until I raised it back again)... Please let me know if all my settings (voltages etc) are okay? Also, should my QPI frequency be higher?

http://i50.tinypic.com/30m0j8z.png


Message edited by trancetunes on 05-29-2010 at 10:00:57 AM
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Reply to trancetunes

I'd say try raising vcore a lot more to make up for the lower vtt. I just got my PC stable (i5 730) at 182x20 with turbo so 1 and 2 cores is 4.3ghz. My voltages are 1.3625V Vcore and 1.206V Vtt. You should try turning off things like turbo, EIST, C States, maybe turn off spread spectrum and maybe try boosting the CPU amplitude controle to 1000mV. I don't know enough to say which could help the most but doing these things is supposed to help stability when overclocking.

Reply to wolfram23

Latest update: I am now using VTT of 1.41 and I haven't had a crash. Is VTT 1.41 safe? Some places are saying 1.55 is the max safe temp, others are saying don't go above Intel specs of 1.35! My PC simple will not run unless I use a minimum of 1.41 though (even if I don't overclock).

As for CPU voltage increase, I can't go above stock. I have a stock heatsink and fan and I really do not want to go above 1.26 volts.

Here is an image of my latest voltage settings.
http://i48.tinypic.com/jj2nmw.jpg

Anyone let me know if you have any recommendations please!!

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Message edited by trancetunes on 05-30-2010 at 12:11:04 AM
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Reply to trancetunes

trancetunes wrote :

As for CPU voltage increase, I can't go above stock. I have a stock heatsink and fan and I really do not want to go above 1.26 volts.


OK, gotta ask, you have been going on for days now, is it safe, is it safe, is it safe

WHY WON'T YOU JUST PUT AN AFTERMARKET COOLER IN YOUR COMPUTER?

and don't say because you can't afford one, even if you are 14 years old, you cut two lawns and you have the money for one. You can't say that it would be to hard to install, it's pretty much a monkey could install one these days. SO, WHY??????

Reply to RJR

RJR, you have issues, seriously. If you are getting upset, then just stop visiting the thread. Why do you keep coming back? Why on Earth is it bothering you at all? Just stop visiting the thread. End of discussion.


Anyway, just an update for anyone else willing to chime in: My PC crashed using 1.41 VTT, but I am not sure if it was the VTT that did it or something else.. For now I am going to put on all stock settings with VTT of 1.41 and see if I pass prime95. I'll check back later to update everyone/anyone willing to help me out on some settings!


Message edited by trancetunes on 05-30-2010 at 02:05:44 AM
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Reply to trancetunes

Just don't understand how someone with enough smarts to enjoy OCing so much would be so clueless to the fact that all of his problems could be eliminated with a $50 cooler. Just don't get it, are you afraid to take the side off of your computer or something?

OK, just read one of your other posts and you stated your from Jersey, I was born and raised in Central Jersey (hence the attitude at times) so stop messing around and do it right.


Message edited by RJR on 05-30-2010 at 05:00:44 AM
Reply to RJR


Your a total noob who doesn't have a clue what your doing and you come in here and mouth off, you better know what your doing before you do that.

You can't even OC your own computer and have no clue about the history of trancetunes and myself on MANY threads about his problem so you may want to learn something before opening your mouth.

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