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Hey everyone Can you give me some feedback please on this custom built system?

Keep in mind this is not an extreme hardcore gaming system, but will be used for gaming.

Intel processor Q6600 quad core or AMD quad core processor similar to Q6600

Asus P5Q SE motherboard

Kingston memory DDR2 2042 MB

Sony floppy drive

Seagate drive SATA 3 500GB 7200 32MB NCQ

ZOTAC Nvidia 9800 GT 512m

Power supply 700w

Some case

22" moniter....I need to know which one to get the highest refresh rate for my video card for smooth performance.

Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.










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Whats your budget ? What operating system ?

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The AMD that trades blows with Q6600 is called Phenom 9850.

Read this article for some CPU benchmarks:
http://www.legionhardware.com/docu [...] id=775&p=2

Floppy drive? Why?

You don't need a 700W PSU for a system with 9800GT and no SLI/Crossfire ability. 500W should do fine.

If you get the Phenom 9850 change the motherboard to this one, for example:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813130161

The NZXT Tempest case is on sale at Newegg now. The Antec 300 at www.buy.com is also a good deal.

The refresh rate is usually 60Hz for a 22" monitor. The "smooth performance" is not from the monitor, but the video card. If you want really smooth performance consider upgrading the video card, but it will cost more.

Reply to aevm

The closest thing AMD currently has to the Q6600 is the 9950. I believe they are priced about the same. Most go with the Q6600, as it has much better overclocking potential. Only get the 9950 if you already have an AM2 motherboard that can run the hot 9950. (I think thats a 125TDW chip.)

Why only two gigs? The best deal out there right now is 2x2GBs of DDR2-800MHz. If you want fast, get the ram with CL timings of 4. If you don't worry about it that much, CL5 will do fine. I have a set of 2x2GB CL5 DDR2-800MHz ram from G.Skill in my machine right now, and I couldn't be happier. Because I have 32bit windows it reports 3.25GBs of ram, but thats ok with me.

Floppy drive? Really? This is my second computer that doesn't have a floppy. If your worried about SATA drivers, don't be. Make sure in the bios they are set for IDE emulation, then you won't have to worry about it. If you want to use the more advanced SATA features, just upgrade the drivers from within windows.

I wouldn't get the 9800GT either. For just a bit more, you can get the 9800GTX/4850, which is a much better card. Unless this puts you overbudget, try to get one of these cards.

700W from whom? Not all PSUs are equals. Make sure you get a quality unit, don't just get the big number.

22" monitor? I'm assuming you are talking about LCDs. If so, they don't really have refresh rates, at least not like your talking about. They will all be 60hz. For LCDs, you need to pay attention to response time, contrast ratio, brightness, and possibly viewing angle if you won't spend all your time right in front of it. If you are hardcore about your viewing on LCDs, try to figure out if its a 6 or 8bit panel, though most couldn't care.

Good luck!

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Thanks everyone

The thing is some guy at future shop said I should go with 700w power supply because he said the video card needs its own power supply.

He also stated that it cant run crysis and I would need 2 9800's

I bought the ZOTAC Nvidia 9800 GT because it was on sale like 160 dollars CAD. reg like 220 or something

Luckily I didn't open it yet so I can return it ....saying that how much more would it be to upgrade to 9800GTX and why is it much better than the one I just bought?

Also does nvidia cards work better with intel processors? I heard this because AMD owns ATI.

I am going to be running vista..prem or ult.

Reply to Gidden

I can show you 600 and 700W PSUs that have less 12V power then some 500W PSUs. The 12V is important as thats where the CPU and GPU get their power from. Watts isn't everything, the Amps and the name also matter.

Crysis runs like a B!tch on most hardware. I wouldn't build a system just for Crysis. The GTX is better then the 9800GT because it has more stream processors. The GT has 112, while the GTX has 128. This makes it more powerful, even if the clock speeds are the same.

AMD might own ATI, but it really doesn't matter. The cards plug into the slot, they are CPU agnostic. All you need is a CPU powerful enough to send information to the card fast enough.

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Do you guys know how many amps I should have in my power supply?

Also what do you think about my motherboard?

Reply to Gidden
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"the video card needs its own power supply" - LOL, did the guy at Future Shop actually say that, no chance you may have misunderstood? It's scary, the kind of people they hire these days. In fact, most gaming PCs have one power supply that handles the video card and CPU and motherboard and disks and everything else. I'm guessing less than 1% actually have a second power supply.

If the Future Shop guy told you to buy the P5Q SE and two video cards then he should be fired. That motherboard does not have a second physical slot where you could install the second video card.

I suggest you keep the motherboard, return the 9800GT, then buy a GTX 260 Core 216 or a HD 4870 1GB. The HD 4870 1GB is a little better

eVGA GTX 260 Core 216 $250, includes Far Cry 2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130398

HIS HD 4870 1GB $230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161247

The HD 4870 1GB will get 3 fps more on a 22" monitor (39.8 vs 37.1) and it's $20 less, but the GTX 260 comes with a free game Either will be quite playable at 37 or 40 fps IMO.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] i=3415&p=4

Your power supply is plenty for either of those cards.

Your third option is to return the motherboard, get a SLI motherboard instead, buy a second 9800GT. The 4th option is to return the MB and 9800GT, get a GA-EP45-UD3P and a pair of HD 4850 cards, etc etc. Probably best to just buy the best single video card you can afford and avoid SLI/Crossfire.

Reply to aevm
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what can I say they were short staffed because of boxing day?
Whats wrong with just getting the 9800 GTX?

Is there any 1G nvidia card that are cheaper than the ones you listed?... its kinda out of my price range.


Reply to Gidden
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There's a GTX 280 1GB, but that costs even more than the HD 4870. It's around $350 at Newegg.

 

Then there's an 8600GT with 1 GB, but that's just a stupid joke. No idea why they put so much RAM on a non-gaming card. It will stink in games.

 

Anyway, the amount of RAM is not really that important, especially on a 22" monitor. It matters a lot more on 24" monitor s or larger (1920x1200 or more).

 

All right, if the GTX 260 and HD 4870 are out of your price range, your next best choices are HD 4850, 9800GTX+, HD 4830, 9800GT.

 



Message edited by aevm on 12-29-2008 at 01:24:25 AM
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alright thanks

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