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December 26, 2008 11:11:46 PM

Hello this is my first time posting. I am curious as to what you guys think of my current system. I think it isn't bad and it should be capable of handling computer games at top video settings. Either I have a bottleneck somewhere I am unaware of or it's not being optimized.

I'm looking to improve it, but I am not sure where to start. What do you think are the top 3 or 5 priorities I should address?

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December 26, 2008 11:19:10 PM

what games are you trying to run and at what settings? ie resolution and what not
December 26, 2008 11:22:53 PM

I mainly play World of Warcraft at the highest possible video settings. 1280 x 1024 resolution. 24 bit color 24 bit depth 8x multisample. Highest on all effects such as view distance and terrain detail.
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December 26, 2008 11:34:15 PM

1280x1024 isn't high resolution.

What video card are you using? The GPU matters way more than the CPU.
December 26, 2008 11:35:23 PM

Video Card: GeForce 8800 GTS 512
December 26, 2008 11:49:20 PM

what are your framerates? I play WoW on a E4300@3.0ghz with a 8800GTOC@ 715/952 linked SP In northrend with all settings maxed i hit 60-70fps even in Dalaran. In outland i push 120fps average
Full specs are

GA P35 DS3L E 4300@3.0ghz
3GB Corsair XMS-2 DDR-2 667 4.4.4.12
Wd 36.7 Raptor(OS/WOW only)
22" 1650x1080 display
December 26, 2008 11:52:15 PM

My framerates vary depending on where I am. Generally sitting in Dalaran it's 30 FPS, doing stuff around Northrend it's 20 FPS. If it's in the middle of a huge battle in Naxxramas it's 15-20 FPS.
December 26, 2008 11:52:36 PM

The link width in the third pic should be at x16 unless using SLI, right? I don't know if that would create a bottleneck for 8800GTS.

Someone with more knowledge can correct me if I am wrong, or give more info.
December 26, 2008 11:56:23 PM

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The link width in the third pic should be at x16 unless using SLI, right? I don't know if that would create a bottleneck for 8800GTS.


I don't know much about it, but I think your observation is correct.
December 27, 2008 12:37:43 AM

Ah! I see in fact my selector card was not in the right setting. The dual side was underneath the plastic part. I reversed it.

I ran CPUZ again and the link width is x16.

However my frame rates haven't improved/worsened.

How do I set the PCIe to 100Mhz?
December 27, 2008 1:48:10 AM

Ok I figured out how to set the PCIe frequency to 100Mhz. It seems that it was the default setting so it wouldn't make any difference in performance. I suppose I am back to square one. Any tips?
December 27, 2008 2:59:49 AM

okay I see a problem in your ram settings. You need to set the ram divider to1:1 and also Im pretty sure that ram will easily run at 4-4-4-12

Let me run a CPUZ and show you my settings if I can figure out posting a pic
December 27, 2008 3:04:00 AM



CPU-Z 1.44.2 report file

Processor(s)

Number of processors 1
Number of cores 2 per processor
Number of threads 2 per processor
Name Intel Core 2 Duo E4300
Code Name Conroe
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 4300 @ 1.80GHz
Package Socket 775 LGA
Family/Model/Stepping 6.F.2
Extended Family/Model 6.F
Core Stepping L2
Technology 65 nm
Core Speed 2997.1 MHz
Multiplier x Bus speed 9.0 x 333.0 MHz
Rated Bus speed 1332.1 MHz
Stock frequency 1800 MHz
Instruction sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, EM64T
L1 Data cache (per processor) 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache (per processor) 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache (per processor) 2048 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size

Chipset & Memory

Northbridge Intel P35/G33/G31 rev. A2
Southbridge Intel 82801IB (ICH9) rev. 02
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 3072 MBytes
Memory Frequency 333.0 MHz (1:1)
CAS# Latency (tCL) 4.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# (tRCD) 4 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 4 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 12 clocks
Command Rate (CR) 2T

System

System Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Name P35-DS3L
System S/N
Mainboard Vendor Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
Mainboard Model P35-DS3L
BIOS Vendor Award Software International, Inc.
BIOS Version F7
BIOS Date 11/29/2007

Memory SPD

Module 1 DDR2, PC2-5300 (333 MHz), 512 MBytes, Corsair
Module 2 DDR2, PC2-5300 (333 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Corsair
Module 3 DDR2, PC2-5300 (333 MHz), 512 MBytes, Corsair
Module 4 DDR2, PC2-5300 (333 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Corsair

Software

Windows Version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
DirectX Version 9.0c

December 27, 2008 3:52:16 AM

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okay I see a problem in your ram settings. You need to set the ram divider to1:1 and also Im pretty sure that ram will easily run at 4-4-4-12


I made these changes in my BIOS and I don't think my computer liked it. After I saved and exited the changes in the BIOS the computer restarted and made a continuous beeping noise that could only be halted by a hard reset. What does this mean? I tried reverting a few things at a time, but no avail it continued to beep after the save and exit.
December 27, 2008 3:23:13 PM

@OP, you seem to have a larger problem that probably won't be fixed by tightening RAM timings. I do not play WOW, but comparing your framerate with what hacker91 posted, there is a large performance difference.

Have you tried reducing settings? For example turn off Anti-aliasing and see if your framerate improves. If it does, the bottleneck is the GPU. If you see no improvement from lowering graphical settings, you are CPU bound.

Either way, I do not think your performance should be so low but it would give you a place to start looking for the problem.
a b B Homebuilt system
December 27, 2008 4:40:24 PM

@OP: Have you installed latest drivers/patches(for WoW)? Also try re-installing WoW.
December 27, 2008 10:02:06 PM

I turned off vertical sync. It seems to have helped my FPS.

To get back to my original post. I was curious if you guys think of my setup and if there are any areas in my build that I could easily improve. Obviously its not top of the line so all of it can be improved. But if there are any outdated parts or something that clearly would give me an extra edge it would help.

Any recommendations or suggestions?
a b B Homebuilt system
December 27, 2008 11:08:04 PM

^ Probably get 4GB RAM. That's what I would do.
December 27, 2008 11:34:27 PM

I'm not an expert on RAM. If I installed faster RAM would my current RAM need to be updated as well? In other words does having two different quality RAMS have an effect on each other?
a b B Homebuilt system
December 28, 2008 2:07:28 PM

^No. The faster RAM will revert to the slower speed.
December 28, 2008 7:30:34 PM

I've been doing some monitoring of my memory while playing WoW on highest settings and without any other programs running besides McAfee.

Free physical memory gets as low as 10%.

That seems low to me. What do you guys think?
a b B Homebuilt system
December 28, 2008 9:38:43 PM

Imo, that's pretty high useage. I have 5GB-8GB systems and turned off swap and during Crysis/Halo CE/Combat Arms,etc it never goes above 60% use. So I would guess you'll notice the difference to an extent. Just remember to turn off swap file if getting 4GB+.
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