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December 27, 2008 12:39:52 AM

Ok, I have run into a conflict conflict. I am at the moment using a Dell Dimension E310 Desktop computer, and I am using onboard graphics (the computer does not have an AGP/PCI-E x16 slot, so I am using onboard graphics.)

I want to build the best computer that I can (more bang for the buck).
I have two builds in mind, either an AMD or Intel build (Please do not be bias I want the best opinion and I do not want people telling me that AMD sucks and such, I will not have the money for an Intel computer for a long time), although the Intel build is a lot more expensive, and I cannot really come up with that much money atm since I am using pure savings.

My goal is to play games like COD4, COD5, Crysis, Crysis:Warhead, Far Cry 2, etc.
I am going to be doing this on my awesome 17" Dell Monitor (1280x1024) *nice, I know* lol

Anyways here are the build: *Please make sure to check for compatibility; I am not that knowledgeable when it comes to GPU/Mobo compatibility, and it would be nice for someone to explain*

AMD:
Foxconn A7GM-S AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
Phenom 9500 Quad-core
WD 640gb HD, SATA
EVGA 9800GT 512MB, 256-bit (EVGA 512-P3-N975-AR or EVGA 512-P3-N971-TR*dual slot*)
Case: Antec 900 or 300, maybe something similar not really worried about that right now
RAM: 2x2GB gskill pi black (idk if it would make a difference if i got 900 or 800)
SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe
PC Power & Cooling S61EPS 610W Continuous @ 40°C EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply(or something similar)

Intel:
Everything is the same except:
Q6600 Quad-Core CPU
Gigabyte EP45-UD3R or EP45-UD3P

Any of the questions that are answered would be gratuitously (ooohhh big word :) ) accepted.
My main question is what would be a better build for my situation, what could I change, and which build would give me the most performance for the least amount of money spent (my budget is around $800, but I cannot come up with that much, the AMD build would be wallet-friendly)

-spades010

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December 27, 2008 1:03:12 AM

For the RAM, if you are talking about 900 or 800 as in frequency, DDR2-900 is just DDR2-800 that's been overclocked. I think it's a better idea to buy the 800 and overclock it yourself.

Intel has been doing better than AMD for the past couple of years. You will see a much higher FPS with a Q6600 over than Phenom you picked out. The Q6600 is a reliable and decent quad core chip. You would, however, get better FPS with an E8400 in Crysis.

You are also better off getting a Radeon 4850 or a 4870 512 MB video card, since both of those perform better than a 9800 GT.
December 27, 2008 1:28:10 AM

I just got a 4850. Paired with my x2 5400 It handles anything I've thrown at it. If you're leaning towards AMD, Id say go with a faster DUAL core. They are faster, cheaper, and use less power. You could always upgrade to a quad once AMD gets their act together...:p 
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December 27, 2008 6:08:07 PM

Hi,

I have a few AMD and Intel builds, I always go for the better CPU.

Now I think the C2D are the best, the AMD are good but not the best.

For gaming you should go for a higher dual core like the E8400 or even get the E7300 and OC the CPU easily to 3.33Ghz with a nice aftermarket cooler like the AC freezer pro 7 + AS5 or MX-2 thermal paste and for the MB go with ASUS or GIGABYTE and get one with a P45 chipset from intel.

For the video you could get a HD4830, it's cheaper than the 9800gt for the same performance, and you can OC this card to get almost the same performance as the 4850...

For the ram you're better going with ddr2-800 low latency like 4-4-4-12 with low volt like 1.8-1.9v.
December 27, 2008 6:21:46 PM

spades010 said:

WD 640gb HD, SATA
EVGA 9800GT 512MB, 256-bit (EVGA 512-P3-N975-AR or EVGA 512-P3-N971-TR*dual slot*)
Case: Antec 900 or 300, maybe something similar not really worried about that right now
RAM: 2x2GB gskill pi black (idk if it would make a difference if i got 900 or 800)
SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe
PC Power & Cooling S61EPS 610W Continuous @ 40°C EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply(or something similar)



The HD is very good, the video card see my other post, case you can go Antec 300 since there isn't much difference between the 2 and the 300 cost less, Ram you can get ddr2-800 for very little $$, dvd+- rw is ok, PSU is very good.

If you go the Intel way you can get a MB with a P45 and crossfire. So if you get a 4830 now you can add an second one later...
December 27, 2008 11:40:12 PM

Here ya go:
$300 - $15 MIR = $285!!
q6600/Gigabyte UD3R mobo

$160 - $15 = $145!! Plenty of GPU for your 17" monitor!! Add another one later if you upgrade your monitor to something bigger!
SAPPHIRE 100245L Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

$62 shipped! Antec 300 case, plenty for your needs!
Antec Three Hundred ATX Computer Case

$75 shipped!! Plenty of space and speed!
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD7500AAKS 750GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

~$95 - $25 MIR = $70!! Plenty of quality power for this build. Has 35A on the 12v rail and comes with 1 x 6 pin and 1 x 6+2pin PCI-e power connectors!
PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500D 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

$50 shipped! DDR2 800 mHz CAS4 RAM (4-4-4-12 timings) at stock voltage of 1.8v. Can take your OC of the CPU to about 3.4-3.6 gHz if needed.
G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

$30 - $10 MIR = $20!! Should work fine for your needs. It's a retail version, so it'll have the software to read/burn DVD's included!!
ASUS Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 40X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe - Retail

Total ~$770 - $65 MIR's = ~$705!!! Now you can upgrade the GPU to a 4870 if you like, but on a 17" monitor its pretty much a waste, IMHO. This budget also allows a purchase of an OS (if you need it) and I'd recommend Vista Home Premium 64bit, if you have to buy one.

You could also go with an e5200 ($83 shipped, 2.5 gHz) if you wanted to save even more $ for other parts or other things that you want. It's up to you, but that is what I'd consider.
December 28, 2008 12:52:07 AM

Both of the configurations that you came up with include Quad Core CPU's. You don't need a Quad Core for gaming because todays games are Run great on fast Dual Core cpu's and they aren't really optimized for Quads except for a few. Here's what I came up with. The Total Price for my the following is $799 after rebates.

Case: NZXT Tempest Mid Tower Case $70 after rebate The Case is up to you and going with a different case such as the Antec 300 will save you some cash. Although the 300 is only 10 bucks less and has no rebate too.

PSU: Thermaltake Purepower W0100RU 500W $30 after rebate.

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R $105 after rebate. This is a great budget board with a Intel P45 chipset. It will offer good overclocking for your CPU. but it only has 1 PCI-E x16 slot, although there is a version of this board with 2 PCI-E x16 slots that cost about 10 bucks more but in Crossfire they will both run at x8.

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 $160. This has got to be one of the best CPU's that there's ever been and its one of the best right now. They CPU Gives you the best bang for your buck. It runs at a stock speed of 3GHZ and has a 6MB Cache and a 1333mhz FSB and all for 160 bucks. It can also overclock extremely well if matched with a good after market cooler. It's also a power efficient CPU with 65W TDP.

CPU Cooler: ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 $40 after rebates. This is a great Cooler that will keep that E8400 cool and let you overclock with no problem.

RAM: Corsair 4Gb (2x2set) 800mhz $25 after rebate. good and cheap set of ram.

Hard Drive: Western Digital 500GB 7200RPM, 32MB Cache $80 bucks. The 640GB you picked cost the same so you could just change this to that if you want.

GPU: EVGA GTX260 SuperClocked Version 896MB. 216Core version. $260. Great Card. Will obviously beat that 9800GT by a lot.

DVD Drive: Samsung Drive $29

I personally believe that this Configuration will give you a lot more performance and bang for the buck than your 2 config's and I think most will agree.
December 29, 2008 10:07:57 PM

joelg88 said:
Both of the configurations that you came up with include Quad Core CPU's. You don't need a Quad Core for gaming because todays games are Run great on fast Dual Core cpu's and they aren't really optimized for Quads except for a few. Here's what I came up with. The Total Price for my the following is $799 after rebates.

Case: NZXT Tempest Mid Tower Case $70 after rebate The Case is up to you and going with a different case such as the Antec 300 will save you some cash. Although the 300 is only 10 bucks less and has no rebate too.

PSU: Thermaltake Purepower W0100RU 500W $30 after rebate.

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R $105 after rebate. This is a great budget board with a Intel P45 chipset. It will offer good overclocking for your CPU. but it only has 1 PCI-E x16 slot, although there is a version of this board with 2 PCI-E x16 slots that cost about 10 bucks more but in Crossfire they will both run at x8.

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 $160. This has got to be one of the best CPU's that there's ever been and its one of the best right now. They CPU Gives you the best bang for your buck. It runs at a stock speed of 3GHZ and has a 6MB Cache and a 1333mhz FSB and all for 160 bucks. It can also overclock extremely well if matched with a good after market cooler. It's also a power efficient CPU with 65W TDP.

CPU Cooler: ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 $40 after rebates. This is a great Cooler that will keep that E8400 cool and let you overclock with no problem.

RAM: Corsair 4Gb (2x2set) 800mhz $25 after rebate. good and cheap set of ram.

Hard Drive: Western Digital 500GB 7200RPM, 32MB Cache $80 bucks. The 640GB you picked cost the same so you could just change this to that if you want.

GPU: EVGA GTX260 SuperClocked Version 896MB. 216Core version. $260. Great Card. Will obviously beat that 9800GT by a lot.

DVD Drive: Samsung Drive $29

I personally believe that this Configuration will give you a lot more performance and bang for the buck than your 2 config's and I think most will agree.


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execpt the GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... , 165$ and MIR of $10 so $155 after MIR and dual slot cooler, hd4850 512mb. you don't need more since you're gaming at 1280*1024 on a 17" screen.
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