Tom's Hardware > Forum > Homebuilt Systems > New System Build > New HTPC build
Ask the community Add a reply
Word :    Username :           
 
boojiboy   12-29-2008 at 06:46:37 PM

Hey guys (gals?). Ok new build, the chassis turns on (there's a power button light), the fans come on and I can feel the harddrive whir but the system never boots up.


Case/Chassis: Antec VERSIS FUSION V2 PC Case w/IR Sensor 430W
Motherboard: Gigabyte S-Series, Socket AM2+/AM2,AMD 780G,4DDR2UATX
CPU: Athlon 64 X2 Dualcore 5400B AM2 2.8GHz 1MB 65nm 65W 2000MHz Tray
RAM: 2GB DDR2 PC2-6400 Kit

Am I missing something obvious with this HTPC chassis? At this point, I can only think of getting a different motherboard to see if that's the problem but the fact everything is getting powered makes me think the motherboard might be ok. Does this kind of case make any beep for the motherboard as it powers up?

Please let me know if there's any more information I should add...

Oh and I should mention there's no information displaying on the front from the LED readout


Message edited by boojiboy on 12-29-2008 at 07:34:06 PM
Add a reply
Sponsored Links
Register or log in to remove.
WR2   12-29-2008 at 08:39:16 PM
- 0 +

4 pin CPU power plugged in to motherboard?
Try with just 1 stick of RAM. The swap out to test the 2nd stick alone.

Message quoted 1 times
Reply to WR2
shortstuff_mt   12-29-2008 at 08:44:56 PM
- 0 +

WR2 wrote :

4 pin CPU power plugged in to motherboard?
Try with just 1 stick of RAM. The swap out to test the 2nd stick alone.


+1

4-pin CPU power connector

Reply to shortstuff_mt
boojiboy   12-29-2008 at 10:38:14 PM
- 0 +

Yes, both the 4-pin CPU power connector (known as ATX for this motherboard) and the 2x12 Main Power Connector are in.
I've switched out the RAM and still nothing.
It's so weird, I've never had a box I've built NOT boot up.
The CPU and it's fan are in, but shouldn't it at least boot even if the CPU is bad? If the motherboard is bad, should it still be able to power the fans?


Message edited by boojiboy on 12-29-2008 at 10:42:36 PM
Reply to boojiboy
alcattle   12-29-2008 at 10:41:59 PM
- 0 +

Maybe a MB short?

Reply to alcattle
boojiboy   12-29-2008 at 10:46:14 PM
- 0 +

Hmmm... Is there a way to test that or do I just need to get another MB?

Reply to boojiboy
alcattle   12-29-2008 at 10:48:50 PM
- 0 +

If you can see between the back of the MB and the case, if it looks too close it is. Otherwise try building on a piece of cardboard with the bare minimum of parts (CPU, 1 stick of RAM, PSU....)

Reply to alcattle
boojiboy   12-29-2008 at 10:53:24 PM
- 0 +

OK alcattle. I got some brass standoffs and tried using those but still with the same results.
If the fans,lights,etc. are on though, doesn't that mean the MB is esentially fine?

Reply to boojiboy
shortstuff_mt   12-29-2008 at 10:57:33 PM
- 0 +

Were you originally trying to boot without standoffs installed between the motherboard and case? If you were, I hope you didn't fry the motherboard. The fact that the fans, lights, etc... light up DOESN'T mean the motherboard is fine.

Have you checked Gigabyte's website to see if that particular CPU is supported on that motherboard?

Reply to shortstuff_mt
boojiboy   12-29-2008 at 11:28:42 PM
- 0 +

The Antec manual says that standoffs are already installed. It's not just the plain chassis, there are standoffs already mounted inside.
I got some extra brass standoffs just to make sure.
I first tried booting without the extra standoffs installed so perhaps that's it for the MB. With the extra standoffs in, the MB sits up high and doesn't look right. There are some already in the chassis but they don't look brass.
I got some extra ones and added standoffs to the standoffs? just to see if that might be the problem.
The CPU is supported, I've an Athlon 64 AM2 which the MB supports


Message edited by boojiboy on 12-29-2008 at 11:39:01 PM
Reply to boojiboy
shortstuff_mt   12-29-2008 at 11:54:07 PM
- 0 +

There's a lot more to a CPU than the series (Athlon 64 AM2). Something as minor as a new stepping will often require a new motherboard BIOS for support. Just because your chip is an "Athlon 64 AM2" doesn't mean it's automatically supported on your board. What is the exact model of your motherboard? I went to the Gigabyte site and looked at all the 780G boards listed and none of them showed the 5400B in the supported CPU list. That chip looks like it's a "business class" chip, whatever that means.

Reply to shortstuff_mt
boojiboy   12-30-2008 at 12:06:12 AM
- 0 +

Crap! shortstuff_mt... I think you are onto something! Here's my motherboard (this page takes forever to load):
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support [...] uctID=2814

Model Number: GA-MA78GM-S2H

Here's my CPU:
http://www.provantage.com/amd-ado5 [...] AMD20U.htm

I don't see 5400B supported! Doh...


Message edited by boojiboy on 12-30-2008 at 12:26:45 AM
Reply to boojiboy
boojiboy   12-30-2008 at 03:06:29 AM
- 0 +

Hmmm...I've a new CPU which the board supports but still the same problem. The lights are on and the fans are running, the hard drive vibrating but nothing else.

Reply to boojiboy
boojiboy   12-30-2008 at 08:17:42 PM
- 0 +

Doubled down: got a new CPU and m/b and still it doesn't boot...grr...

Reply to boojiboy
shortstuff_mt   12-30-2008 at 09:31:27 PM
- 0 +

So you're absolutely sure the 4-pin CPU power connector near the CPU socket is plugged in in addition to the main 24-pin motherboard power connector?

Reply to shortstuff_mt
boojiboy   12-30-2008 at 09:52:05 PM
- 0 +

Absolutely...there's a 4-pin for the CPU and the 2x12 Main Power Connector.
Ok, I just got a new chassis (cheapest they had) and we'll see what happens.

Reply to boojiboy
boojiboy   01-12-2009 at 04:49:25 AM
- 0 +

shortstuff_mt Ok it's up! You were correct I did not do due diligence and purchased a CPU which the motherboard did not support. Doh!

Reply to boojiboy
Ask the community Add a reply
Tom's Hardware > Forum > Homebuilt Systems > New System Build > New HTPC build
Go to:

There are 852 identified and unidentified users. To see the list of identified users, Click here.

Forum map
Bestofmedia Forum ©
2000-2009 Bestofmedia Group
Page generated in 0.292 seconds
Please mind

You are about to answer a thread that has been inactive for more than 6 months.
If you still wish to proceed, please ensure that your posting is original and does not duplicate or overlap any prior responses to this thread.

Add a reply Cancel
Sponsored links
  • Ask the community now
  • Publish
Ad
Related Topics
See all relatives topics
They won a badge
Join us in greeting them
How do I win badges?