I recently bought a Dell Vostro 220s for my wife. It was $435 shipped with a 22 inch LCD ultrasharp monitor. The computer itself is in a slim tower, E7300, 2GB ram, 1 DVDRW and 1 HDD. It has a 250w PSU with a single 18A rail. The PSU only has 1 available sata connector and not a single molex, period. The fastest low profile card I can find not needing a extra 6pin connector is a DDR3 9500GT.
Does anyone know anything better? Or maybe a PSU compatable with this tower (doubt it)? Im fairly confident the default PSU would be able to run the 9500GT.
I did some research for you, and yes I do believe that anything above the 9500s wants a 6 pin. I like nvidia as well. of course if you wanted a cheaper solution you could go with the radeon hd 4550 which will be about 60 bucks. Lol, ironically enough this one has half the memory bandwidth but double the memory compared to the 9500. I'm not really an expert at which one of those features would give a better performance gain. And if your wifes monitor uses dvi and not d-sub then you can just pull that little ribbon cable out of its connector (if it's not permanently connected, or you could just leave it hanging inside the case) and not have to worry about it taking up two slots.
RAMDAC 400 MHz Max Resolution: 2560 x 1600 CrossFire Supported: Yes Cooler: With Fan Dual-Link DVI Supported: Yes Windows Vista: Works with Windows Vista HDCP Ready: Yes
Features
Shader Model 4.1 Full HD Support
Package Contents:
EAH4550/DI/512MD3 Driver Disk User's Manual L-P Bracket
Message edited by phil0083 on 01-25-2009 at 10:18:16 AM
I would be surprised that one of ATIs partners doesn't come out with a low profile HD4650 or 4670 before too long, there's a pretty good market for low profile/low power graphic cards.
Thanks for the replies! The 4550 on the Graphics Card Hierarchy is about even with a 6600GT or 5 tiers before the 9500GT so i will be sticking with the 9500. Thanks for the suggestion of course. Now im trying to decide between the 512MB DDR2 vs 256MB DDR3.
She mostly plays Sims 2 and will be playing Sims 3 when it comes out next month. It plays Sims 2 fine now but the graphics arent as good IE: her water looks blue and plain and on my system with a 8800GT it actually looks like water.
Does anyone know if Sims 2 relies more on faster memory or more memory? I am supprised to not see a low profile 4650 or 4670
After much much research I think i've found the single most powerful low profile card on the market which doesnt require a 6pin connector (a 9600GT would take the cake with one). A XFX 9500GT 1GB DDR2. It has the same gpu clock and memory clock as the only low profile DDR3 version i could find. With my wife using 1650x1080 i think the extra memory might come in handy, although she probably wouldnt notice. Thanks everyone for your help.
PS. Memory size isn't everything. This means a DDR3 version of a video card (Even if it only has 256MB of it) will be faster than one with a 1GB DDR2 version. This means the Radeon 4670 will wipe the floor of the 9500GT.
The fastest video card that doesn't require 6-pin is the Radeon 4670.
PS. Memory isn't everything. This means a DDR3 version of a video card (Even if it only has 256MB of it) will be faster than one with a 1GB DDR2 version.
I was saying fastest LOW PROFILE without a 6pin for us with small PSU slimline cases. Also the DDR2 video card im referring to for some reason has the same 800 mhz clock speed as the DDR3 video card I referred to earlier which was the only one I could find that was low profile.
If you could recommend a faster low profile card without a 6pin adapter I would love to hear it as I havnt quite purchased the 9500gt yet, newegg is having server issues.
Also do you think the 1GB DDR2 is really slower than the 256 DDR3 with both at 800mhz clock? Is there another advantage in the fine print im not seeing about ddr3?
Message edited by indigoataxia on 01-26-2009 at 06:33:32 AM
Yeah she just had to have a slimline pc, its a girl thing i guess. Hopefully the 9500GT will give her the sparkly water she gets with my 8800GT in the Sims. If not its her fault lol.
I had planned on building her a slimline with a low profile 9600GT and a 450w PSU but that would have cost around $550 shipped for just the pc and the Dell i got had a better looking case, came with a 22" ultrasharp lcd, and had a e7300 and 2gb ddr2 for only $450 shipped. Couldnt pass it up. To end the thread thanks again everyone!
Message edited by indigoataxia on 01-26-2009 at 06:56:07 AM
I have seen lots of ladys and their slim PC's, and when the need repaired they cant believe it costs as much or more then they paid for it in the first place.
I've owned several PC's over the years and always had issues until I started building them, and ever since I can leave my PC on 24/7 365 and never experience a issue.
When I used to buy over the counter PC's it was a miracle if I didn't need to restart atleast once a day.
Now when I repair that junk it is no wonder with the poor wire management that restricts cooling and the crappy motherboards that are used.
Most of the components in a over the counter PC are 2-3 years old tech besides the CPU.
Well, I doubt it, unless that setup uses a dedicated sound card, LAN card and it uses a quad core processor . A casual PC (One that uses all built-in hardware) with a PCI-E video card without needing a 6-pin only needs at max 250W.
My current hardware actually survives on a 300W PSU.....
Athlon64 X2 5600
2GB RAM
ECS 780GM-A Black Edition
Palit Radeon 4850 Sonic
Two hard drives and two DVD writers
As for the Sims, err, even using a GeForce 5500FX would be enough for The Sims 2. Actually the 9500GT would be overkill for that game......
$70 for the 9500GT isnt that big of an investment, especially when most low profile cards are around $50 anyway. And Sims 3 is due out next month and im sure it will be more graphics intensive than Sims 2. A bit of future proofing wouldnt hurt