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Hello friends, I have a problem....
Here is the order of events.

1. My CPU, AMD Phenom 9600 Black edition, Was running too hot, at like 62cels or whatever.
2. I bought a cooler, Freezer 64 Pro.
3. Installed, worked fine for a day.
4. Started getting BSOD randomly.
5. Raised voltage a little for my ram, to 2.2, which is what it is suppose to be at but you have to change it yourself sometimes.
6. Restarted and had one long beep and 2 short beeps. Which for my motherboard means memory not detected.
7. Took 2 sticks out and it would finally start up, then it would load windows vista then BSOD as its loading start up programs.
8. Now I am in safe-mode and posting here. very annoying :(

Here is my build:

MOBO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131367
CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103244
New fan http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835185125
RAM 4GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820104008
PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] sair%20850
Graphics http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150310
Chassis http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811146047
normal creative sound card


Any ideas?

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I don't get it. Why did you have to raise the RAM voltage to 2.2? Can't you bring it down to normal levels? In any case, I don't think your new fan isn't the cause of the problem, unless it's not working properly and your computer is overheating.

Reply to r_manic

It's kinda strange but the ram is advertised and it even says on the ram 2.2V. but for some reason most mobo's dont have it set at that, and also dont have it set to 1066 for some reason. thank your for the reply.

Reply to goat199

ok so having 2 sticks in and setting the ram voltage to 2.15, I successively loaded, but I am expecting a BSOD soon.... if not, i guess ill try 4 in with 2.15V soon. but please help.

Reply to goat199

goat199 wrote :

It's kinda strange but the ram is advertised and it even says on the ram 2.2V. but for some reason most mobo's dont have it set at that, and also dont have it set to 1066 for some reason. thank your for the reply.


Motherboard RAM voltage default is 1.8 volts. Defaults for other memory settings depend on what the memory SPD chip contains. And because DDR2-1066 is not a JEDEC standard, the SPD chip does not generally contain those settings.

Infact, 1066 RAM is simply DDR2-800 RAM tested to work at the higher frequency, usually at more relaxed memory timings. You can see this in CPU-z.

Reply to jsc

thank u :)
still i cant put in 4 sticks, it beeps before it gets to bios, what gives?

Reply to goat199

Have you tested the memory? Run Memtest86 and tell us the results.

Its normal for some boards to default dimms to 1.8v, you have to manually turn it up to whatever the memory is spec'd for.

1066 memory is 800mhz memory thats capable of running 1066 by overclocking. If your not overclocking, then set the memory to 800mhz and see what happens then.

------------------------------ P965/Q6700@3.2 8MB HD4850 OC Edition
4GB Corsair XMS 800
Vista64/Win7
Fatality 550w/Antec 300
Reply to zipzoomflyhigh

Ok ill do the memtest and let you know the results, but ive done it in the past and it has passed every time. is it more likely that something besides the fan is the problem?

Reply to goat199

The past is the past and is irrelevant to the present.

I guess I'll be the first to tell you that memory does go bad.......I've had it happen to me more than once, starting with bsod's and stop errors.


Message edited by zipzoomflyhigh on 05-14-2009 at 07:47:57 PM
------------------------------ P965/Q6700@3.2 8MB HD4850 OC Edition
4GB Corsair XMS 800
Vista64/Win7
Fatality 550w/Antec 300
Reply to zipzoomflyhigh

ok just finished, it passed. I wish it was my memory, thats cheap. I am paranoid I damaged my cpu or mobo in the process of installing my fan. but I doubt I did. So whats next, I probably have to get a new something.

 

edit : lucky i got that post in. bsod right after lol.

 

ok here is some more info. this mobo is probably refurbished because i had to send it in and get it replaced about 2 months ago. also, i just got comcast and installed the modem, i started getting bsod's, then replaced the modem with a different one and boom bsods' were gone. I hope this helps.


Message edited by goat199 on 05-14-2009 at 09:41:22 PM
Reply to goat199

it now wont stay on longer than 10 min. i am guessing i either need a new mobo or a new cpu. help please, thank you :)

Reply to goat199

and now, starts and instantly freezes, the bsod gives a message something about a second core.

Reply to goat199

would it be the cpu or the motherboard i need to replace? i know its one of em

Reply to goat199

Sounds to me like you didnt install the new fan right or use the right amount of thermal paste, and your cpu is overheating.

Reply to daship

the fan came with paste on it, should i have put some more on?

 

Edit: wait that cant be it, i have a temp gage up always and the cpu was lower than it was before, like at 35-40 degrees. . just remembered.


Message edited by goat199 on 05-15-2009 at 01:32:58 AM
Reply to goat199

Dont over paste your CPU! Less is more...

Reply to dragonfang18

ok . so i didnt install it wrong, that is very simple. but i think i damaged either the cpu or the mobo. the question is. which one?

Reply to goat199

You could try using another motherboard to test the CPU... If you have any lying around...

Reply to dragonfang18

wow i tested every stick of ram, and one is bad even though it passed the test. I have the 3 that seem to be working in right now with default settings. I don't want to say its fixed so fast though, so I won't. Would it be a good idea to get all new memory?

 

Also the bsod message was "A clock interrupt was not received on a second processor within the allocated time interval... "


Message edited by goat199 on 05-15-2009 at 07:11:56 AM
Reply to goat199

Update.....
got a BSOD 15 min after last post. This message was different is said "MEMORY_MANAGEMENT"

Reply to goat199

Are you sure you have the memory set to 2.2v in the bios??

Take the cpu to a local shop and have them test it. If it tests fine then you know its the mobo. Simple.


Message edited by zipzoomflyhigh on 05-15-2009 at 01:50:54 PM
------------------------------ P965/Q6700@3.2 8MB HD4850 OC Edition
4GB Corsair XMS 800
Vista64/Win7
Fatality 550w/Antec 300
Reply to zipzoomflyhigh

So I found the bad stick of ram and im still getting BSODs does that mean the mobo or cpu could have screwed up my ram?

 

My local shop will charge me 80$ to test ans see what it is


Message edited by goat199 on 05-15-2009 at 08:11:49 PM
Reply to goat199

Likely you have more bad ram. Were you overclocking it?

------------------------------ P965/Q6700@3.2 8MB HD4850 OC Edition
4GB Corsair XMS 800
Vista64/Win7
Fatality 550w/Antec 300
Reply to zipzoomflyhigh

well maybe on accident, it is 1066 ram, so i changed it manually to 1066, and tried 2.15V and 2.2V different combos. it is older ram. I think i have to buy some new. any suggestions?
I guess i will have to get the ram before i find this out, but could there be another problem that is also not helping?

What do u think about this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231209

Update - It is getting worse. cant get to normal windows at all anymore. Ive been in safe-mode the whole time. it has even BSOD in safemode.
So i will check in and out for replies, I hope i will be able to before its totally busted.


Message edited by goat199 on 05-16-2009 at 06:39:03 AM
Reply to goat199

have you just tried running a single stick at a time? Maybe you can at least use your computer if you find one good stick.

However, they should fail memtest immediately if they are giving you that many problems.

That Gskill is pretty popular but I prefer the corsair xms.

------------------------------ P965/Q6700@3.2 8MB HD4850 OC Edition
4GB Corsair XMS 800
Vista64/Win7
Fatality 550w/Antec 300
Reply to zipzoomflyhigh


i am running memtest right now on each stick singly< i will let you know the results. I can not get into safemode anymore. last time i restarted, it rebooted 3 times right after the bios loaded and beeped. any input will be fine :)

Thank you
zipzoomflyhigh

Reply to goat199

No errors on ram :(
I mean it passed all the test


Message edited by goat199 on 05-17-2009 at 06:08:20 AM
Reply to goat199

I remember someone having the same issue with a 9600, I believe they fixed it when someone recommended they "ungang" their memory. I dont know any thing about this though. Maybe you could start a new post asking how to ungang your memory.?

------------------------------ P965/Q6700@3.2 8MB HD4850 OC Edition
4GB Corsair XMS 800
Vista64/Win7
Fatality 550w/Antec 300
Reply to zipzoomflyhigh

no one will answer my other post really, so i am just going to buy the ram and hope thats the problem.

Reply to goat199

Can you run cpu-z and show us the results? I mean theres no way adding a cpu cooler can cause BSOD's. Either you knocked something loose, or you statically damaged the motherboard or something.


Message edited by zipzoomflyhigh on 05-18-2009 at 02:07:04 PM
------------------------------ P965/Q6700@3.2 8MB HD4850 OC Edition
4GB Corsair XMS 800
Vista64/Win7
Fatality 550w/Antec 300
Reply to zipzoomflyhigh

I will run cpuz but here is an update!
I turned my TLB fix off did the guaged thing, and set my cpu core to 7.0x and it is running fine for 2 hrs now. So what do you get out of that? does this help?

 

QUOTE:
"Pros: NONE! If I could rate this processor any lower, I would.

 

Cons: BSOD every time. I used it with Vista x64. After several re-installs of Vista, you will receive this message "A clock interrupt was not received on a secondary processor within the allocated time interval." Sometimes it would run for a total of 10 minutes, then fail again. Stay away from this product.

 

Other Thoughts: Do NOT buy this processor. This is the last time I buy anything AMD. "

 


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] Style=lite


Message edited by goat199 on 05-19-2009 at 03:12:06 AM
Reply to goat199

I would think that the tlb fix may have something to do with it. but underclocking the cpu makes it work. I would assume that would be the CPU, but we all know what assuming does.

 

Update: I now have 3 sticks in and it is working nice, but I dont understand why it works fine when the multiplier is at X7.0 and 9 will BSOD. But I don't want to feel like im walking on eggshells forever. That is annoying.

 

would an bios update help? or drivers?


Message edited by goat199 on 05-19-2009 at 11:06:51 AM
Reply to goat199

Wow, those are some seriously bad reviews.

At this point I would definitely recommend a bios update. My next move would be contacting AMD about an RMA.

Tell them you do not want another 9600, you want a fixed processor like a 9650 or something.

------------------------------ P965/Q6700@3.2 8MB HD4850 OC Edition
4GB Corsair XMS 800
Vista64/Win7
Fatality 550w/Antec 300
Reply to zipzoomflyhigh

Sounds good. thank you very much for your help :)

Reply to goat199

Funny thing... Got my new ram works great at 8.0 multiplier, fan runs at 2200 and cpu is at 33C :) , system works fine (havent tried 8.5 or 9, or is 9 default). Anyway I have a pretty nice setup, very nice geforce card. My question is, why does warcraft run at 2 FPS sometimes. . . . WOW does not require much at all when it comes to recommended sys requirements. and my card is pretty high end, i have 4 GB great new ram, processor is at X8.0 but that should still be plenty, Etc... So what is the deal, my setup should be able to play Crysis at 25 30 FPS minimum. and WOW gets 2FPS sometimes :( Any clue what Im doing wrong? not sure if this should be a new topic, I thought it might have something to do with this.

Reply to goat199
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