AMD thermal paste debockle

[swifty_morgan]

Here's something I never knew. I'm sure most of you didn't know it either.

http://www.xtremetek.com/info/index.php?id=14&page=1

Read it through..........interesting - the part where their paste is made so it doesn't work to keep the chips cool but to keep us from over clocking.

 

[someguy7]

RUBBISH

 

[ainarssems]

The article is from 2003 when CPU's where open without IHSF and there was risk of shorting something when using conductive paste inproperly or too much.

 

[13thmonkey]

its spelt debacle

 

[swifty_morgan]

LOL....... I've used that word a thousand times and this is the first time I ever had to write it. I thought it might be wrong when I did it............ LOL

 

[spuddyt]

LOL....... I've used that word a thousand times and this is the first time I ever had to write it. I thought it might be wrong when I did it............ LOL

Ok, and now explain to us why you are quoting from an article from 2003... Unless you are trying to be the antithesis to thunderman and enigma?

 

[swifty_morgan]

First of all I never seen it before. Secondly, I doubt many people here have and I really doubt that most people would believe that substituting your own paste, that kept temperatures lower, would invalidate a warranty. How much you want to make a bet that what was then, is now ?

 

[enigma067]

Ok, and now explain to us why you are quoting from an article from 2003... Unless you are trying to be the antithesis to thunderman and enigma?

Tiger
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Category/category_cpu.asp?name=CPUs
Ci7 920 / 2.66GHz LGA1366 4.8 GT/s $279.99
Ci7 965EE/3.2GHz LGA1366 6.4 GT/s $1079.99

Fortunately the Deneb isn't listed at Tiger now. It must have sold out!

Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition 965 Nehalem 3.2GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115200
$999.99

Intel Core i7 940 Nehalem 2.93GHz
$559.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115201

Deneb 3.0Ghz
$215.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471

The logic is simple. There won't be any software on the market for approximately 3-5 years that will push a Phenom II beyond its limitations. Therefore, what's the point of wasting $800 or even $60 on an over priced Intel chip?

The prices are right there and I even link to them.

All these chips play the games just as well as the others. But only ONE does it for less money!

DO THE MATH!!

Intel ignores their customers by continuing to produce chips that cost their customers the most money.
AMD does the opposite. The proof is in the pricing!

When comparing the price/performance ratio between Intel's offering and AMD's offering, AMD beats Intel.
AMD saves their customers money. And that's what counts the most.

AMD chooses not to produce a faster chip then Intel does and for good reason. A faster chip is more expensive and does not sell in large quantities because people cannot afford it. Especially in today's economy. That translates into lower sales. The company ends up taking a bigger loss then if it produced
a more economical product. Do you think this is why the Deneb (3.0Ghz) is currently sold out on Tigerdirect and the Core i7's are still available? THINK ABOUT IT.

Intel fanbois have more money then brains!

 

[randomizer]

enigma067, please RTFOP.

 

[pat mcgroin]

Here is the line that gets you out of the problem.
"No thermal grease is recommended for anything other than temporary evaluation purposes."
How will they know?

And what does the above rant on the cost of Intel processors have to do with thermal grease?

 

[randomizer]

And what does the above rant on the cost of Intel processors have to do with thermal grease?

Nothing, but it's what enigma usually posts first in threads.

 

[The_Blood_Raven]

First of all I never seen it before. Secondly, I doubt many people here have and I really doubt that most people would believe that substituting your own paste, that kept temperatures lower, would invalidate a warranty. How much you want to make a bet that what was then, is now ?

Dude, both Intel and AMD did it. Back in 2003 thermal paste was much more CONDUCTIVE than even the conductive crap we have now. If the thermal paste dripped off the top in ANY way the CPU was almost certainly dead. There was a good reason, that is all we are saying.

 

[The_Blood_Raven]

Tiger
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Category/category_cpu.asp?name=CPUs
Ci7 920 / 2.66GHz LGA1366 4.8 GT/s $279.99
Ci7 965EE/3.2GHz LGA1366 6.4 GT/s $1079.99

Fortunately the Deneb isn't listed at Tiger now. It must have sold out!

Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition 965 Nehalem 3.2GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115200
$999.99

Intel Core i7 940 Nehalem 2.93GHz
$559.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115201

Deneb 3.0Ghz
$215.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471

The logic is simple. There won't be any software on the market for approximately 3-5 years that will push a Phenom II beyond its limitations. Therefore, what's the point of wasting $800 or even $60 on an over priced Intel chip?

The prices are right there and I even link to them.

All these chips play the games just as well as the others. But only ONE does it for less money!

DO THE MATH!!

Intel ignores their customers by continuing to produce chips that cost their customers the most money.
AMD does the opposite. The proof is in the pricing!

When comparing the price/performance ratio between Intel's offering and AMD's offering, AMD beats Intel.
AMD saves their customers money. And that's what counts the most.

AMD chooses not to produce a faster chip then Intel does and for good reason. A faster chip is more expensive and does not sell in large quantities because people cannot afford it. Especially in today's economy. That translates into lower sales. The company ends up taking a bigger loss then if it produced
a more economical product. Do you think this is why the Deneb (3.0Ghz) is currently sold out on Tigerdirect and the Core i7's are still available? THINK ABOUT IT.

Intel fanbois have more money then brains!

Intel i7 965 $999.99:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115200

Via C3 600Mhz $19.99:
http://surpluscomputers.stores.yahoo.net/viac3600mhzcpu.html

DO THE MATH!!

 

[randomizer]

Intel i7 965 $999.99:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115200

Via C3 600Mhz $19.99:
http://surpluscomputers.stores.yahoo.net/viac3600mhzcpu.html

DO THE MATH!!

VIA fanboys have more brains than money!

 

[Dekasav]

I just have to point this out, under the VIA chip linked, in its description, it says this:

" Industry leading 0.13 & 0.15 micron manufacturing process"

Made me smile.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

I hope their cpus are the best at that process

 

[yomamafor1]

Intel i7 965 $999.99:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115200

Via C3 600Mhz $19.99:
http://surpluscomputers.stores.yahoo.net/viac3600mhzcpu.html

DO THE MATH!!

We have a winner!!

 

[jimmysmitty]

Intel fanbois have more money then brains!

Says the guy who uses the same arguement consitently again, and again and again......

 

[jimmysmitty]

I just have to point this out, under the VIA chip linked, in its description, it says this:

" Industry leading 0.13 & 0.15 micron manufacturing process"

Made me smile.

LMFAO................................

 

[amdfangirl]

Intel i7 965 $999.99:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115200

Via C3 600Mhz $19.99:
http://surpluscomputers.stores.yahoo.net/viac3600mhzcpu.html

DO THE MATH!!

You implying that the VIA C3 can play games like a Core i7? On Diablo perhaps...

 

[djcoolmasterx]

Via fanbois have more money then brains!

Cyrix 4 life!

 

[rav3n]

What were they thinking???? Is this still part of amds warranty today?

 

[amdfangirl]

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