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Why don't Toms Hardware graphics charts include the 9800GT?

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rags_20   01-30-2009 at 02:07:38 PM

Or is it because its the same as the 8800GT? In that case they should include 9800GT and leave out 8800GT, right?

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zipzoomflyhigh   01-30-2009 at 03:19:40 PM
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Yes, well theres 10 times more people out there with 8800GT than 9800GT.

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Avenger_K   01-30-2009 at 07:15:23 PM
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Yes, it's because 8800GT and 9800GT are the same performance-wise. What you have to remember is that, at the time when they did the benchmarks for the charts, the 9800GT hadn't been released yet. So it just made more sense to leave in the 8800GT instead of updating all the charts for a card that offers no performance increase.

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rags_20   01-31-2009 at 03:22:04 PM
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Then what is the advantage of getting either one over the other?

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spoonboy   01-31-2009 at 07:17:41 PM
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There is none lol welcome to the world of nvidia, a rebranding-friendly world

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idisarmu   02-01-2009 at 03:41:31 AM
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just like:

8800gs/9600gso (or similar)
9800gtx=oc 8800gts

and with ati: 3870=2900xt with 256 bit memory.
2600/3600 series=same just different clocks and 55nm vs 65nm
2400/3400 series... same case as 2600/3600

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Dekasav   02-01-2009 at 05:55:45 AM
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Yup, 8800GS = 9600GSO.
9800GT = 8800GT. Only difference between these 2 is the 9800GT is 3-way SLI compatible.

The difference between ATI 2k and 3k series is a simple process shrink, but it did a world of good for them.

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nottheking   02-01-2009 at 11:28:36 AM
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I'm pretty sure that the 8800GT might be able to do 3-way SLi with the correct drivers.

The ATI Radeon 3k did add DirectX 10.1 support with the 2k series lacked, though that was a very minor change compared to the architectural re-working and refining that the 4k series did.

And technically, I wouldn't consider the 9800GTX to be an overclocked 8800GTS-512 anymore than I'd consider a GTX 280 to be an overclocked and unlocked GTX 260; it's a whole different model using the same GPU; this existed at least to the days of the GeForce 2 GTS vs. GeForce 2 Ultra, and went even earlier.

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carlw   02-01-2009 at 04:33:00 PM
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Seems like a relevant, re-usable thread rather than starting another one :)

Just tried playing GTA4 and hit a snag. Yep! My GFX card isn't up to the job :(

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2533/gta4fqu8.th.jpg

I upgraded the PC itself last year but my GFX card is (I only just realised) two years old. It's an ATI 256MB X1950XT.

So, ATI or NVIDIA? I've had both and have no complaints about either. I did hear that ATI are not quite as 'good' (ie an equivalent spec card won't give as good a performance) as NVIDIA but that could have been personal preference.

So 2... ATI HD3850 or GEFORCE 9800GT. Does the amount of on-board memory make much difference these days? Is the more expensive card worth the extra money? etc ;)

EG:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/144180
Asus HD 3850 Pro Overclocked TOP edition 512MB DDR3 Dual DVI HDTV Out PCI-E

or

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/156881
Inno3D 9800GT 1GB DDR3 Dual DVI HDCP HDTV out PCI-E Graphics Card

Opinions appreciated before I buy. Thanks.

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Dekasav   02-01-2009 at 09:06:17 PM
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carlw wrote :

Seems like a relevant, re-usable thread rather than starting another one :)

Just tried playing GTA4 and hit a snag. Yep! My GFX card isn't up to the job :(

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2533/gta4fqu8.th.jpg

I upgraded the PC itself last year but my GFX card is (I only just realised) two years old. It's an ATI 256MB X1950XT.

So, ATI or NVIDIA? I've had both and have no complaints about either. I did hear that ATI are not quite as 'good' (ie an equivalent spec card won't give as good a performance) as NVIDIA but that could have been personal preference.

So 2... ATI HD3850 or GEFORCE 9800GT. Does the amount of on-board memory make much difference these days? Is the more expensive card worth the extra money? etc ;)

EG:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/144180
Asus HD 3850 Pro Overclocked TOP edition 512MB DDR3 Dual DVI HDTV Out PCI-E

or

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/156881
Inno3D 9800GT 1GB DDR3 Dual DVI HDCP HDTV out PCI-E Graphics Card

Opinions appreciated before I buy. Thanks.




MAKE A NEW THREAD!!!

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The_Blood_Raven   02-01-2009 at 09:22:46 PM
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9800 GT and yes I'm 100,000,000,000,000,000% sure!

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carlw   02-01-2009 at 09:53:40 PM
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Dekasav wrote :

MAKE A NEW THREAD!!!


Thanks for your ever-so constructive thoughts on my post :sarcastic:

(If a Moderator really wants to move this to a seperate thread then I'm sure they will do so :))

The_Blood_Raven wrote :

9800 GT[/quote]
Okay.

[quotemsg=1905590,11,307105]and yes I'm 100,000,000,000,000,000% sure!


Never doubted you for a second :ouch: :??: :p



Message edited by carlw on 02-01-2009 at 09:55:19 PM
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carlw   02-01-2009 at 09:58:14 PM
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Sorry for the messed-up quote. This forum doesn't seem to work like others I use :(

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