My new computer arrives...

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I've heard that 98 won't run on computers that have a processor that is like
mine, around 2GHz.

I thought it was bs tho  

"Jeremy Reaban" <jer@connectria.com> wrote in message
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> and of course, I can't get Windows 98 to install on it. D'oh! So much for
> that.
>
>

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"Bluegenie2" <me@fuil.com> wrote in message
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> I've heard that 98 won't run on computers that have a processor that is
like
> mine, around 2GHz.
>
> I thought it was bs tho  

Well, it turns out it's apparently the hard drive that doesn't like Win 98.
It's a serial ATA drive.

The sad part is (to me, anyway), I can get a free copy of Win XP if I had a
broadband, because MS is having a beta program for the 64 bit version of it
(which is what my new PC is, an Athlon 64). But I don't have broadband.
Double D'oh!

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This probably seems obvious but get Windows XP. Why are you messing around
with a lame OS like Win98 anyway?

Richard

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> and of course, I can't get Windows 98 to install on it. D'oh! So much for
> that.
>
>

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Richard Forester wrote:
> This probably seems obvious but get Windows XP. Why are you messing around
> with a lame OS like Win98 anyway?
>

Because Win 98SE was the most stable of the Windohs OS line?

I'd have kept it if I could, but I was forced into XP.

-georg

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georg wrote:
>> This probably seems obvious but get Windows XP. Why are you messing
>> around with a lame OS like Win98 anyway?
>>
>
> Because Win 98SE was the most stable of the Windohs OS line?

That was meant as a joke wasn't it? I have seen win 9x and ME blue screen
litererally hundreds of times. I have only ever seen 2k blue screen once,
and I have never seen XP blue screen. Win98 and SE are not stable.

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Will Bradshaw wrote:

> georg wrote:
>
>>>This probably seems obvious but get Windows XP. Why are you messing
>>>around with a lame OS like Win98 anyway?
>>>
>>
>>Because Win 98SE was the most stable of the Windohs OS line?
>
>
> That was meant as a joke wasn't it? I have seen win 9x and ME blue screen
> litererally hundreds of times. I have only ever seen 2k blue screen once,
> and I have never seen XP blue screen. Win98 and SE are not stable.
>
>

No. I have heard and seen nothing but problems with ME and 2k, and I am
very glad I never needed either.

True, I haven't had trouble with XP, but I know others who have. I never
had problems with 98SE.

I just wish games like the Sims and EQ worked on Linux.

-georg

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georg wrote:
> I just wish games like the Sims and EQ worked on Linux.

I don't know much about Linux as I have only ever had the misfortune of
having to use Debian once, without a clue how to use it, but AFAIK Linux is
completely different to Windows and would need the game remaking completely,
would the different distros need different versions? It would just be way
too much for EA, and they wouldn't make a profit from the few Linux users
that want to play games on it.

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"Richard Forester" <richard_forester(nospam)@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Well, yes, XP will run slower on the same hardware. This is kinda obvious
> since it requires more resources. As far as knowing what is running on
it,
> there's more information available to the user under XP than under Win98.
> Also you have a lot more control over shutting down processes under XP.
In
> Win9x this was a very risky thing to do since everything effectively ran
in
> the same address space. I can go on and on about how XP is factually
better
> than Win9x but I'm sure you don't want to hear about it.

Um, not the same hardware here. I still have my 98se machine. This one
came with xp home on it.
I just cannot get the sims2 to run on my 98se machine (well can't even test
it cause there is no dvd drive on that machine), so I am stuck with this
one.

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>> I just wish games like the Sims and EQ worked on Linux.
>
> I don't know much about Linux as I have only ever had the misfortune of
> having to use Debian once, without a clue how to use it, but AFAIK Linux is
> completely different to Windows and would need the game remaking completely,

Not really. Most games are quite modular. The only things that are
likely to be different are the install scripts and maybe some front end
work. You just need to look at the success of things like SCUMMVM (a
cross-platform interpreter for LucasArts' SCUMM engine) and the port to
Linux of Unreal Tournament (download a new installer), or the fact that
a lot of games put a PC version and a Mac version on one disc, to
realise that once you've already made the game it's not that much extra
work to run it on a different platform.

It would be bad practise to make a game that was closely tied to Windows
anyway. That would leave you vulnerable to all sorts of things, not
least of all the way that Microsoft habitually changes the way that
Windows works to stifle the competition.

> would the different distros need different versions?

Unlikely. Linux is POSIX-compliant, so in theory if you could get it to
run on Linux it should also work on Unix and BSD-based systems like OS X
without too much hassle. All the distributions are just different
software collections. So you'll get the kernel, desktop manager and
other useful software in all distributions, and then you'll get some
other stuff depending on which distribution you go for. The largest
difference, AFAIK, between distros is which package mechanism they use.

It would just be way
> too much for EA, and they wouldn't make a profit from the few Linux users
> that want to play games on it.
>
Ah, but if there were more games available, then there'd be more Linux
users.

Anyway, most games companies are wondering whether it's worth bothering
to port a game to the PC at all, given that it's such a tiny market
compared to consoles. EA in particular are most likely to only go with
the most lucrative, regardless of how many customers they might leave in
the cold... I'm certainly not holding my breath expecting them to lead
the way in anything.

CK

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>I wouldn't argue about Win98 Second Addison. I used it for about six years
> and never had the kind of trebles you spoke of. I bought a brand new
> Pacard
> Bell 2.66 GHz because I wanted to play Unreal Tournament 4 as my old
> computer would not play it. And of cores Sims 2. Now, it came with Windows
> XP installed and I used it for just one day. Has I said, it wasn't for me.

That's cool. I understand what you are saying.

> Computer Companies are making newer and faster computers Neely every day.
> And every time the do, Microsoft brings out new OS Systems that slows them
> down again. And so do a lot of new games these days.

I wouldn't say this but slowness is a matter of perception and opinion. You
are entitled to yours. Actually, the speed of an OS is largely determined
on hardware but also how many/what type of services you have running. Does
XP have more services than 98? You betcha. But does it offer more
functionality and a more stable OS? Absolutely.

> The other thing about XP is it's ability to use up a lot of your internet
> bandwidth, bandwidth that you are paying for! Bandwidth that you need
> yourself. Not forgetting the use of your computers resources. Last but not
> lest, if you own your own network, you must buy and use a new copy of XP
> for
> each computer on your network. Or XP will not network on any of them.

Umm... XP doesn't "use up" bandwith. I have no idea what you mean by that.
Also, don't you think you should pay for what you use? A lot of blood,
sweat and tears went into engineering XP. Don't you think the manufacturer
is entitled to compensation for your use of the product?

> But apart from all that it is a good operating system.
>
> I too love the old adventure games so I put windows 98 on my new computer
> and I was truly amazed how much faster it run. "Slicker than snot on a
> doorknob!"

LOL. You're right. You should use what works best for you.

>
> I am now using Windows 2000 witch I found was best suited for my new
> computer and for me. The only trouble I am having now is trying to play my
> old adventure games. I get error saying this system is not a dos
> supporting
> operating system. Or something like that.
>

Have you tried running these older games under compatibility mode? It
doesn't always work but it does sometimes.

> Why can't you network 98? I have. I have Win2000 on my UT server. Win200
> on
> my main computer and Win98 on my old computer. They are all showing up on
> my
> network. And that way I can still play my old adventure games.
>
> At the end of the day, we all use what ever suits us. And should not poke
> fun at others who do. We are all happy.
>
> Paul.

I'm sorry if you took my comments personally. They weren't ment to be
directed that way. I was merely pointing out how XP is superior to Win9x
and that if your hardware no longer runs that old OS you should move on.

Richard



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"Richard Forester" <richard_forester(nospam)@msn.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:Kq6Pd.62766$B8.39277@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >I wouldn't argue about Win98 Second Addison. I used it for about six
years
> > and never had the kind of trebles you spoke of. I bought a brand new
> > Pacard
> > Bell 2.66 GHz because I wanted to play Unreal Tournament 4 as my old
> > computer would not play it. And of cores Sims 2. Now, it came with
Windows
> > XP installed and I used it for just one day. Has I said, it wasn't for
me.
>
> That's cool. I understand what you are saying.
>
> > Computer Companies are making newer and faster computers Neely every
day.
> > And every time the do, Microsoft brings out new OS Systems that slows
them
> > down again. And so do a lot of new games these days.
>
> I wouldn't say this but slowness is a matter of perception and opinion.
You
> are entitled to yours. Actually, the speed of an OS is largely determined
> on hardware but also how many/what type of services you have running.
Does
> XP have more services than 98? You betcha. But does it offer more
> functionality and a more stable OS? Absolutely.
>
> > The other thing about XP is it's ability to use up a lot of your
internet
> > bandwidth, bandwidth that you are paying for! Bandwidth that you need
> > yourself. Not forgetting the use of your computers resources. Last but
not
> > lest, if you own your own network, you must buy and use a new copy of XP
> > for
> > each computer on your network. Or XP will not network on any of them.
>
> Umm... XP doesn't "use up" bandwith. I have no idea what you mean by
that.
> Also, don't you think you should pay for what you use? A lot of blood,
> sweat and tears went into engineering XP. Don't you think the
manufacturer
> is entitled to compensation for your use of the product?
>
> > But apart from all that it is a good operating system.
> >
> > I too love the old adventure games so I put windows 98 on my new
computer
> > and I was truly amazed how much faster it run. "Slicker than snot on a
> > doorknob!"
>
> LOL. You're right. You should use what works best for you.
>
> >
> > I am now using Windows 2000 witch I found was best suited for my new
> > computer and for me. The only trouble I am having now is trying to play
my
> > old adventure games. I get error saying this system is not a dos
> > supporting
> > operating system. Or something like that.
> >
>
> Have you tried running these older games under compatibility mode? It
> doesn't always work but it does sometimes.
>
> > Why can't you network 98? I have. I have Win2000 on my UT server. Win200
> > on
> > my main computer and Win98 on my old computer. They are all showing up
on
> > my
> > network. And that way I can still play my old adventure games.
> >
> > At the end of the day, we all use what ever suits us. And should not
poke
> > fun at others who do. We are all happy.
> >
> > Paul.
>
> I'm sorry if you took my comments personally. They weren't ment to be
> directed that way. I was merely pointing out how XP is superior to Win9x
> and that if your hardware no longer runs that old OS you should move on.
>
> Richard
>
>
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Thank you for your input Richard. And yes your right. XP is more superior to
Windows 98. But can you remember how superior Win98 compared too Win95? Back
at the time when a 600MB hard drive cost £250 Pound? Ha Ha. Them where the
days! I appreciate what you say because you know what you are talking about
and I agree with everything you are saying. The XP Internet bandwidth I'm
referring to is band bandwidth that programs running in the background XP
use whenever you connect to the Internet. I cannot remember exactly how many
there was now, but I was shocked. All this Internet activity simply would
not work on my UT server. It will make the game very lagy for players play
the game. The UT server uses all available band with just for the game.

Allow me to explain why it is I proffer not to use XP. I did install and
wanted to use XP on one of my computers some time ago. Anyway, I got all the
correct drivers for all the hard where but had treble with the driver for my
creative sound card. Quit a good one at the time. It would not work. XP
allowed me to reinstall the driver for the hard where again, I tried again
and again it did not work. After that XP locked me out. Everything to do
with the sound card was grayed out. XP said the devise was not working and
was disabled. No matter what I tried, XP would not allow me fix it.

I do know and realize that XP takes control away from the user and I felt
like I'd lost something. And so I thought that XP was not for the
experienced hands on users, but more for the new comers to computing. I am
not saying you're a new comer! I can tell from what you write you know what
you are talking about.

Thank you for your advice relating to playing old games on windows 200. I
will give that a try.

Paul.

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"Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Thank you for your input Richard. And yes your right. XP is more superior
> to
> Windows 98. But can you remember how superior Win98 compared too Win95?
> Back
> at the time when a 600MB hard drive cost £250 Pound? Ha Ha. Them where the
> days! I appreciate what you say because you know what you are talking
> about
> and I agree with everything you are saying. The XP Internet bandwidth I'm
> referring to is band bandwidth that programs running in the background XP
> use whenever you connect to the Internet. I cannot remember exactly how
> many
> there was now, but I was shocked. All this Internet activity simply would
> not work on my UT server. It will make the game very lagy for players play
> the game. The UT server uses all available band with just for the game.

Wow. I don't play Unreal Tournament so I wouldn't know anything about that.
I was unaware that it required such a clean line. Have you considered other
factors that might affect gameplay? For instance, latency is very important
particularly with RTS games. I know that UT isn't an RTS but I thought I'd
mention it. Anyway, latency is more of a factor on your broadband providers
end. Also, you might be able to shutdown (make manual) some services that
affect gameplay.

> Allow me to explain why it is I proffer not to use XP. I did install and
> wanted to use XP on one of my computers some time ago. Anyway, I got all
> the
> correct drivers for all the hard where but had treble with the driver for
> my
> creative sound card. Quit a good one at the time. It would not work. XP
> allowed me to reinstall the driver for the hard where again, I tried again
> and again it did not work. After that XP locked me out. Everything to do
> with the sound card was grayed out. XP said the devise was not working and
> was disabled. No matter what I tried, XP would not allow me fix it.

I bet this is/was a non-plug and play creative sound card. Maybe an AWE or
something like that? Those don't do well with XP because XP likes to handle
interrupts and allocation of resources. Also, believe it or not the slot
you install it in is sometimes a factor if the BIOS is in charge of IRQ
settings. At any rate, I understand what you are saying about trying to get
your hardware to work. It's a total drag when it doesn't.

One other thing I just thought of relating to your old games. Have you
considered running them under Virtual PC? If you don't know what that is,
it's a product that Microsoft aquired from another software publisher and
updated it. You should be able to find it at your local PC store. Anyway,
it allows you to run your older OS inside a virtual pc running on a host OS.
For instance, I run XP natively and have Virtual PC to run other OSs. It's
quite useful for playing with Linux (since I install it to my virtual pc
instead of my physical hard drive). And it definately works great at
running Windows 9x. It might be a solution to running your old games on
Win2000 or XP.

>
> I do know and realize that XP takes control away from the user and I felt
> like I'd lost something. And so I thought that XP was not for the
> experienced hands on users, but more for the new comers to computing. I am
> not saying you're a new comer! I can tell from what you write you know
> what
> you are talking about.
>
> Thank you for your advice relating to playing old games on windows 200. I
> will give that a try.
>
> Paul.
>

Thanks for the kind words. If I can help you any further or if I didn't
make something clear just give me a holler.

Richard

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"georg" <thegeorg@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Richard Forester wrote:
>> This probably seems obvious but get Windows XP. Why are you messing
>> around with a lame OS like Win98 anyway?
>>
>
> Because Win 98SE was the most stable of the Windohs OS line?
>
> I'd have kept it if I could, but I was forced into XP.
>
> -georg

XP is waaaaay more stable than 98.

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"Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The other thing about XP is it's ability to use up a lot of your internet
> bandwidth, bandwidth that you are paying for! Bandwidth that you need
> yourself. Not forgetting the use of your computers resources. Last but not
> lest, if you own your own network, you must buy and use a new copy of XP
> for
> each computer on your network. Or XP will not network on any of them.

That's unadulterated bullpoop! My home network includes XP, 98, and even
Linux, and they all network communicate perfectly well on the network.

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"Schfooge" <schfooge@NOSPAMFORME.rogers.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:Kq6Pd.62766$B8.39277@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > The other thing about XP is it's ability to use up a lot of your
internet
> > bandwidth, bandwidth that you are paying for! Bandwidth that you need
> > yourself. Not forgetting the use of your computers resources. Last but
not
> > lest, if you own your own network, you must buy and use a new copy of XP
> > for
> > each computer on your network. Or XP will not network on any of them.
>
> That's unadulterated bullpoop! My home network includes XP, 98, and even
> Linux, and they all network communicate perfectly well on the network.

Hmm, that is not what paul said. He said that for every computer on your
network that you want to run xp, you have to buy a separate copy of xp for
each computer.
And I know this to be true from personal experience.

>
>

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"Schfooge" <schfooge@NOSPAMFORME.rogers.com> wrote in message
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>
> "georg" <thegeorg@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:6uLOd.40175$ZD1.8324@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Richard Forester wrote:
> >> This probably seems obvious but get Windows XP. Why are you messing
> >> around with a lame OS like Win98 anyway?
> >>
> >
> > Because Win 98SE was the most stable of the Windohs OS line?
> >
> > I'd have kept it if I could, but I was forced into XP.
> >
> > -georg
>
> XP is waaaaay more stable than 98.
>
>
Can anyone tell me if the Guinness Book of records holds the longest post?

More Over, can anyone tell me what this original post was about? Lol

And just in case, if anyone is wondering what Windows XP, 2000 and 98 as got
to do with Sims 2. I think it's because we are all in agreement here, Sims 2
is compatible with all these operating systems.

Last but not lest. In my opinion even Windows 95 was better than Windows ME.
And Sims 2 will not work on ether!

And ones again, thank you Richard for telling me about Virtual PC. I had
herd of this product but never knew what it was till now. It sounds a
logical alternative than Windows 98. It sounds like something in the lines
of virtual Amiga 12 for your pc. But that's a hole another story. And no,
just in case anyone asks, Sims 2 will not run on Amiga ether! Lol.

Hands up, has anyone here ever owned a Commodore 64 or any of the Amiga
family?

Paul.

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Oooo ooo! Me me!

I had 2 different Amiga 500s (at different times). Back then it really was
an amazing computer with awesome graphics.

Richard


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>
>
> Hands up, has anyone here ever owned a Commodore 64 or any of the Amiga
> family?
>
> Paul.
>
>
>
>



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>
> "Schfooge" <schfooge@NOSPAMFORME.rogers.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "georg" <thegeorg@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:6uLOd.40175$ZD1.8324@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > > Richard Forester wrote:
> > >> This probably seems obvious but get Windows XP. Why are you messing
> > >> around with a lame OS like Win98 anyway?
> > >>
> > >
> > > Because Win 98SE was the most stable of the Windohs OS line?
> > >
> > > I'd have kept it if I could, but I was forced into XP.
> > >
> > > -georg
> >
> > XP is waaaaay more stable than 98.
> >
> >
> Can anyone tell me if the Guinness Book of records holds the longest post?
>
> More Over, can anyone tell me what this original post was about? Lol
>
> And just in case, if anyone is wondering what Windows XP, 2000 and 98 as
got
> to do with Sims 2. I think it's because we are all in agreement here, Sims
2
> is compatible with all these operating systems.
>
> Last but not lest. In my opinion even Windows 95 was better than Windows
ME.
> And Sims 2 will not work on ether!
>
> And ones again, thank you Richard for telling me about Virtual PC. I had
> herd of this product but never knew what it was till now. It sounds a
> logical alternative than Windows 98. It sounds like something in the lines
> of virtual Amiga 12 for your pc. But that's a hole another story. And no,
> just in case anyone asks, Sims 2 will not run on Amiga ether! Lol.
>
> Hands up, has anyone here ever owned a Commodore 64 or any of the Amiga
> family?
>
> Paul.

Does a TI004-A count?

>
>
>
>

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"Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>Hands up, has anyone here ever owned a Commodore 64 or any of the Amiga
>family?

/Has owned/? I still have 2 working C-64, in fact. With disk drives, tape
drive and monitor, all of which are used occasionally. There is still a
lively community of C-64 owners out there, and new software and hardware
is still being created.

--
Philipp Lucas
phlucas@online-club.de

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> "Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Hands up, has anyone here ever owned a Commodore 64 or any of the Amiga
>>family?
>
> /Has owned/? I still have 2 working C-64, in fact. With disk drives, tape
> drive and monitor, all of which are used occasionally. There is still a
> lively community of C-64 owners out there, and new software and hardware
> is still being created.
>
> --
> Philipp Lucas
> phlucas@online-club.de

Old fans never die - they just get clogged up with fluff.
It is amazing how many of the 'golden oldie' computers still have people
working away on them. Do people always have a soft spot for their first
computer?

Mine was an Ohio Scientific Superboard II and that fan did die. My husband
made me a new one out of an old model boat propellor. The 'fan' was attached
to a lump of wood (for weight) which sat on top of the open board - un
guarded, and was lethal to fingers and cats and sent papers that were not
weighted down all over the room.

And oh, after using tape casettes, the thrill of the first disc-drive - and
the COST! 8((((
It's up in the loft, the Ohio. Every five years or so I think about it, then
lie down with a ice-bag on my head.

Yes I also had a C-64 for a year or so; and a Tangerine, and oh, and
Sinclair Spectrum (these were all given to me to 'play with' An Einstein...
Lor.. and my own BBC B, then the Archimedes, then a bigger Arch, then a
RISC PC, and then I fell foul of the lure of PC software and joined the
Billy-gang.
I am now doomed. I have had one, two, three... blimey... five different PCs
one way or the other.

Granny. CA - what do you mean, 'I need a hobby'?

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Paul wrote:
> Hands up, has anyone here ever owned a Commodore 64 or any of the
> Amiga family?

My Brother got an Amiga 600 for his 6th (IIRC) Birthday. Originaly it had
no HDD or OS, but we got them a bit later. Most of the games got corrupted
but I think GORF (some space invaders type game that has nothing to do with
frogs) and Bally (big box with a little dot that you guide around to
highlight areas of the box, when you get 70% you go to the next level, but
you must avoid the other dots) still work. That was only 13 years ago,
things have kinda changed a bit since then.

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"Richard Forester" <richard_forester(nospam)@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Oooo ooo! Me me!
>
> I had 2 different Amiga 500s (at different times). Back then it really
was
> an amazing computer with awesome graphics.
>
> Richard
Excellent Richard. I knew we were on the same wavelength.

Paul.




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> >
> >
> > Hands up, has anyone here ever owned a Commodore 64 or any of the Amiga
> > family?
> >
> > Paul.
> >
> >
> >
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"Granny Crabapple" <marrowjam@[reallywild]blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Philipp Lucas" <phlucas@online-club.de> wrote in message
> news:376na2F58ahc2U1@individual.net...
> > "Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>Hands up, has anyone here ever owned a Commodore 64 or any of the Amiga
> >>family?
> >
> > /Has owned/? I still have 2 working C-64, in fact. With disk drives,
tape
> > drive and monitor, all of which are used occasionally. There is still a
> > lively community of C-64 owners out there, and new software and hardware
> > is still being created.
> >
> > --
> > Philipp Lucas
> > phlucas@online-club.de
>
> Old fans never die - they just get clogged up with fluff.
> It is amazing how many of the 'golden oldie' computers still have people
> working away on them. Do people always have a soft spot for their first
> computer?
>
> Mine was an Ohio Scientific Superboard II and that fan did die. My husband
> made me a new one out of an old model boat propellor. The 'fan' was
attached
> to a lump of wood (for weight) which sat on top of the open board - un
> guarded, and was lethal to fingers and cats and sent papers that were not
> weighted down all over the room.
>
> And oh, after using tape casettes, the thrill of the first disc-drive -
and
> the COST! 8((((
> It's up in the loft, the Ohio. Every five years or so I think about it,
then
> lie down with a ice-bag on my head.
>
> Yes I also had a C-64 for a year or so; and a Tangerine, and oh, and
> Sinclair Spectrum (these were all given to me to 'play with' An
Einstein...
> Lor.. and my own BBC B, then the Archimedes, then a bigger Arch, then a
> RISC PC, and then I fell foul of the lure of PC software and joined the
> Billy-gang.
> I am now doomed. I have had one, two, three... blimey... five different
PCs
> one way or the other.
>
> Granny. CA - what do you mean, 'I need a hobby'?
>
>
Wow, that's amazing. Who would have thought that people still use these old
computers? No I don't think it's anything to do with a soft spot for their
first
computer. With me it's just that Commodore sound. You know the sound from
that electronic music that the Commodore made from that Yamaha chip. Bloody
fantastic.

I have still got my Amiga12. And last week I picked up an old Commodore 64
that someone had thrown out for the bin man. Just the computer none of the
extras that the Commodore 64 needs to run. I had one of those Dayton Action
Replay Cartridge in my old Commodore 64. I thought that was an amazing pace
of kit for the Commodore 64.

I am looking for somewhere to set up my Amaga12 again. There are still some
games I loved playing and of course, most of these games are now free to
download from Internet. Grate! You know, I bought Amber Star for my Amiga12
and it was on free floppies and it took me two years to complete it! Amazing
how it takes me to complete a pc game on two cd's in just two weeks.

I got my first PC when Commodore went bust. Patti really.

Paul.

PS. I love my new PC too!

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"Philipp Lucas" <phlucas@online-club.de> wrote in message
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> "Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Hands up, has anyone here ever owned a Commodore 64 or any of the Amiga
> >family?
>
> /Has owned/? I still have 2 working C-64, in fact. With disk drives, tape
> drive and monitor, all of which are used occasionally. There is still a
> lively community of C-64 owners out there, and new software and hardware
> is still being created.
>
> --
> Philipp Lucas
> phlucas@online-club.de
Philipp? I thought the Commodore with the disk drives was the Commodore 128?

Paul.

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"Bluegenie2" <me@fuil.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:UQoPd.68842$B8.66378@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >
> > "Schfooge" <schfooge@NOSPAMFORME.rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:z-ednTss2_c5EpDfRVn-rw@rogers.com...
> > >
> > > "georg" <thegeorg@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:6uLOd.40175$ZD1.8324@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > > > Richard Forester wrote:
> > > >> This probably seems obvious but get Windows XP. Why are you
messing
> > > >> around with a lame OS like Win98 anyway?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Because Win 98SE was the most stable of the Windohs OS line?
> > > >
> > > > I'd have kept it if I could, but I was forced into XP.
> > > >
> > > > -georg
> > >
> > > XP is waaaaay more stable than 98.
> > >
> > >
> > Can anyone tell me if the Guinness Book of records holds the longest
post?
> >
> > More Over, can anyone tell me what this original post was about? Lol
> >
> > And just in case, if anyone is wondering what Windows XP, 2000 and 98 as
> got
> > to do with Sims 2. I think it's because we are all in agreement here,
Sims
> 2
> > is compatible with all these operating systems.
> >
> > Last but not lest. In my opinion even Windows 95 was better than Windows
> ME.
> > And Sims 2 will not work on ether!
> >
> > And ones again, thank you Richard for telling me about Virtual PC. I had
> > herd of this product but never knew what it was till now. It sounds a
> > logical alternative than Windows 98. It sounds like something in the
lines
> > of virtual Amiga 12 for your pc. But that's a hole another story. And
no,
> > just in case anyone asks, Sims 2 will not run on Amiga ether! Lol.
> >
> > Hands up, has anyone here ever owned a Commodore 64 or any of the Amiga
> > family?
> >
> > Paul.
>
> Does a TI004-A count?

Yes, why not? Tell us more about your TI004-A count. It's not one I've know
about.

Paul.

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"Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>"Philipp Lucas" <phlucas@online-club.de> wrote in message
>news:376na2F58ahc2U1@individual.net...
>> /Has owned/? I still have 2 working C-64, in fact. With disk drives, tape
>> drive and monitor, all of which are used occasionally. There is still a
>> lively community of C-64 owners out there, and new software and hardware
>> is still being created.
>Philipp? I thought the Commodore with the disk drives was the Commodore 128?

No, there were several disk drives for the C-64; the first one (to the
best of my knowlege) the 1541, and also 1541-II, the 1571 and other
drives. Looking at
http://www.commodore.ca/gallery/brochures/1983completel... , the
1541 also worked on the VIC-20.

For even more rare disk drives for the C-64 and other machines, see
http://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/ckb/secret/periph.htm... .

(I apologize for the complete off-topic-ness.)

--
Philipp Lucas
phlucas@online-club.de

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"Philipp Lucas" <phlucas@online-club.de> wrote in message
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> "Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >"Philipp Lucas" <phlucas@online-club.de> wrote in message
> >news:376na2F58ahc2U1@individual.net...
> >> /Has owned/? I still have 2 working C-64, in fact. With disk drives,
tape
> >> drive and monitor, all of which are used occasionally. There is still a
> >> lively community of C-64 owners out there, and new software and
hardware
> >> is still being created.
> >Philipp? I thought the Commodore with the disk drives was the Commodore
128?
>
> No, there were several disk drives for the C-64; the first one (to the
> best of my knowlege) the 1541, and also 1541-II, the 1571 and other
> drives. Looking at
> http://www.commodore.ca/gallery/brochures/1983completel... , the
> 1541 also worked on the VIC-20.
>
> For even more rare disk drives for the C-64 and other machines, see
> http://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/ckb/secret/periph.htm... .
>
> (I apologize for the complete off-topic-ness.)
>
> --
> Philipp Lucas
> phlucas@online-club.de
No, that's ok Philipp. I had the 1541 disk drive for my C64. And the Dayton
Action Replay Cartridge with was pretty amazing Pease of kit. I think the C
128 was the one with the built it floppy drive and I thought that's what you
was talking about.

Thank you Philipp for all your input and interest.

Paul.

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"Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:wAsPd.69933
>>
> Wow, that's amazing. Who would have thought that people still use these
> old
> computers? No I don't think it's anything to do with a soft spot for their
> first
> computer. With me it's just that Commodore sound. You know the sound from
> that electronic music that the Commodore made from that Yamaha chip.
> Bloody
> fantastic.

Ha!! THAT was why a friend passed his old C-64 to me. He had a sort of
clippy-on piano keyboard. I had a whale of a time. I still hanker after a
music keyboard. 8( Husband hammers hell out of a piano downstairs that
hasn;t been tuned for thirty years. It sounds.... interesting and rather
modern.
>
> I have still got my Amiga12. And last week I picked up an old Commodore 64
> that someone had thrown out for the bin man. Just the computer none of the
> extras that the Commodore 64 needs to run. I had one of those Dayton
> Action
> Replay Cartridge in my old Commodore 64. I thought that was an amazing
> pace
> of kit for the Commodore 64.

It was the fan base that amused me. I went to a local computer club once..
early 80s. There were Pets, and I think an proto apple? I really can't
remember, but the hobbyists looked down their noses at anything that came
with a big name and the Nascom builders looked down their noses at everyone
else.

A computer wasn;t a computer unless it broke down on a regular basis and
needed soldering somewhere. Oh, and if you could buy ready made software
then you had a 'toy.'
8(((((
I learned good old BASIC because I had to. Assembler finished me off though.
>
> I am looking for somewhere to set up my Amaga12 again. There are still
> some
> games I loved playing and of course, most of these games are now free to
> download from Internet. Grate! You know, I bought Amber Star for my
> Amiga12
> and it was on free floppies and it took me two years to complete it!
> Amazing
> how it takes me to complete a pc game on two cd's in just two weeks.

You are starting to sound old......  
Remember Colossal Cavern, or Caves? I had a wall chart map, updated daily,
and it took me months to work my way through it. I was only about ten years
behind the times.

Now? I can't be bothered. I never did complete Grim Fandango, the last
adventure type game I bought.
Text based adventures... Sigh.... <wave walking stick about> We had to use
out imagination in those days. No pretty pictures.... No Sims, either. 8(
>
> I got my first PC when Commodore went bust. Patti really.

I bought a 486 PC after a 486 board put in my RISC PC refused to work. I
wanted to see what all the fuss was about. I hated it. I snarled at it. I
jeered. Ho-ho-ho. What an operating mess! Snigger. Look at that pile of
dlls! ha! how stupid.
Meanwhile I am still using a PC type and two Acorn machines are long gone.
I still think Windows is a mess, but... what the heck....

IF it takes 30 years for any new 'developed' inovation to be accepted fully
into society, then... 1960s saw the start. 1970s saw the rise of the
integrated circuit and spread of the computer nerd innovator... 1980s was
the explosion when desktops crept out of offices and into homes,,. Another
ten years?
We are still in the learning stage. 8))))

Hasn't it been fun?

Granny.
>

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"Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Bluegenie2" <me@fuil.com> wrote in message
> news:At-dnVexWaOzz5PfRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> >
> > "Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:UQoPd.68842$B8.66378@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > >
> > > "Schfooge" <schfooge@NOSPAMFORME.rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > news:z-ednTss2_c5EpDfRVn-rw@rogers.com...
> > > >
> > > > "georg" <thegeorg@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:6uLOd.40175$ZD1.8324@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > > > > Richard Forester wrote:
> > > > >> This probably seems obvious but get Windows XP. Why are you
> messing
> > > > >> around with a lame OS like Win98 anyway?
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Because Win 98SE was the most stable of the Windohs OS line?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd have kept it if I could, but I was forced into XP.
> > > > >
> > > > > -georg
> > > >
> > > > XP is waaaaay more stable than 98.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Can anyone tell me if the Guinness Book of records holds the longest
> post?
> > >
> > > More Over, can anyone tell me what this original post was about? Lol
> > >
> > > And just in case, if anyone is wondering what Windows XP, 2000 and 98
as
> > got
> > > to do with Sims 2. I think it's because we are all in agreement here,
> Sims
> > 2
> > > is compatible with all these operating systems.
> > >
> > > Last but not lest. In my opinion even Windows 95 was better than
Windows
> > ME.
> > > And Sims 2 will not work on ether!
> > >
> > > And ones again, thank you Richard for telling me about Virtual PC. I
had
> > > herd of this product but never knew what it was till now. It sounds a
> > > logical alternative than Windows 98. It sounds like something in the
> lines
> > > of virtual Amiga 12 for your pc. But that's a hole another story. And
> no,
> > > just in case anyone asks, Sims 2 will not run on Amiga ether! Lol.
> > >
> > > Hands up, has anyone here ever owned a Commodore 64 or any of the
Amiga
> > > family?
> > >
> > > Paul.
> >
> > Does a TI004-A count?
>
> Yes, why not? Tell us more about your TI004-A It's not one I know
> about.
>
> Paul.
>
>
>
>

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<snip>

> Now? I can't be bothered. I never did complete Grim Fandango, the last
> adventure type game I bought.

You should. It's a really good game. One of my favourites.

CK

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Well I was asking if my TI-994A would count as an old computer, like the
amiga or commodore.
It used the tv as a monitor and saving was done with cassette tape and i had
a ball with it.
It was given to be by my father after the doc told me I had to sit at home
on my ass for the last 6 months of my pregnancy. So for 6 months, I altered
programs written for other computers so that they would work on mine. I
made my own cute little programs, including music and graphics. Then the
baby was born and the computer forgotten  

"Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Bluegenie2" <me@fuil.com> wrote in message
> news:At-dnVexWaOzz5PfRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> >
> > "Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:UQoPd.68842$B8.66378@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > >
> > > "Schfooge" <schfooge@NOSPAMFORME.rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > news:z-ednTss2_c5EpDfRVn-rw@rogers.com...
> > > >
> > > > "georg" <thegeorg@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:6uLOd.40175$ZD1.8324@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > > > > Richard Forester wrote:
> > > > >> This probably seems obvious but get Windows XP. Why are you
> messing
> > > > >> around with a lame OS like Win98 anyway?
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Because Win 98SE was the most stable of the Windohs OS line?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd have kept it if I could, but I was forced into XP.
> > > > >
> > > > > -georg
> > > >
> > > > XP is waaaaay more stable than 98.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Can anyone tell me if the Guinness Book of records holds the longest
> post?
> > >
> > > More Over, can anyone tell me what this original post was about? Lol
> > >
> > > And just in case, if anyone is wondering what Windows XP, 2000 and 98
as
> > got
> > > to do with Sims 2. I think it's because we are all in agreement here,
> Sims
> > 2
> > > is compatible with all these operating systems.
> > >
> > > Last but not lest. In my opinion even Windows 95 was better than
Windows
> > ME.
> > > And Sims 2 will not work on ether!
> > >
> > > And ones again, thank you Richard for telling me about Virtual PC. I
had
> > > herd of this product but never knew what it was till now. It sounds a
> > > logical alternative than Windows 98. It sounds like something in the
> lines
> > > of virtual Amiga 12 for your pc. But that's a hole another story. And
> no,
> > > just in case anyone asks, Sims 2 will not run on Amiga ether! Lol.
> > >
> > > Hands up, has anyone here ever owned a Commodore 64 or any of the
Amiga
> > > family?
> > >
> > > Paul.
> >
> > Does a TI004-A count?
>
> Yes, why not? Tell us more about your TI004-A count. It's not one I've
know
> about.
>
> Paul.
>
>
>
>

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I would say that the Timex Sinclair definitely falls into the category of an
old computer. I remember conversing with my neurosurgeon about this early
PC when I first got my Atari 800. His wife was telling me about some
text-graphics (character based) game that taxed the system pretty badly...
something called "Prince Billy" I think.

I've had the following old computers:

Atari 400
Atari 800
Atari 800XL
Atari 130XE
IBM PC (original PC)
Atari 520ST
Amiga 500

After my last move I sold/donated/threw out all of my old equipment. I now
use emulators to experience some of the old charm.

Richard


"Bluegenie2" <me@fuil.com> wrote in message
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> Well I was asking if my TI-994A would count as an old computer, like the
> amiga or commodore.
> It used the tv as a monitor and saving was done with cassette tape and i
> had
> a ball with it.
> It was given to be by my father after the doc told me I had to sit at home
> on my ass for the last 6 months of my pregnancy. So for 6 months, I
> altered
> programs written for other computers so that they would work on mine. I
> made my own cute little programs, including music and graphics. Then the
> baby was born and the computer forgotten  
>
> "Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Bluegenie2" <me@fuil.com> wrote in message
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>> >
>> > "Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>> > news:UQoPd.68842$B8.66378@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> > >
>> > > "Schfooge" <schfooge@NOSPAMFORME.rogers.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:z-ednTss2_c5EpDfRVn-rw@rogers.com...
>> > > >
>> > > > "georg" <thegeorg@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
>> > > > news:6uLOd.40175$ZD1.8324@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> > > > > Richard Forester wrote:
>> > > > >> This probably seems obvious but get Windows XP. Why are you
>> messing
>> > > > >> around with a lame OS like Win98 anyway?
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Because Win 98SE was the most stable of the Windohs OS line?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I'd have kept it if I could, but I was forced into XP.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -georg
>> > > >
>> > > > XP is waaaaay more stable than 98.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > Can anyone tell me if the Guinness Book of records holds the longest
>> post?
>> > >
>> > > More Over, can anyone tell me what this original post was about? Lol
>> > >
>> > > And just in case, if anyone is wondering what Windows XP, 2000 and 98
> as
>> > got
>> > > to do with Sims 2. I think it's because we are all in agreement here,
>> Sims
>> > 2
>> > > is compatible with all these operating systems.
>> > >
>> > > Last but not lest. In my opinion even Windows 95 was better than
> Windows
>> > ME.
>> > > And Sims 2 will not work on ether!
>> > >
>> > > And ones again, thank you Richard for telling me about Virtual PC. I
> had
>> > > herd of this product but never knew what it was till now. It sounds a
>> > > logical alternative than Windows 98. It sounds like something in the
>> lines
>> > > of virtual Amiga 12 for your pc. But that's a hole another story. And
>> no,
>> > > just in case anyone asks, Sims 2 will not run on Amiga ether! Lol.
>> > >
>> > > Hands up, has anyone here ever owned a Commodore 64 or any of the
> Amiga
>> > > family?
>> > >
>> > > Paul.
>> >
>> > Does a TI004-A count?
>>
>> Yes, why not? Tell us more about your TI004-A count. It's not one I've
> know
>> about.
>>
>> Paul.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>



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On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Paul wrote:
> Hands up, has anyone here ever owned a Commodore 64 or any of the Amiga
> family?

Both. And I've yet to find a racing game in the modern era that's even
half as good as EA's "Racing Destruction Set" on the C64.  

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"...there are hardly any excesses of the most crazed psychopath that cannot
easily be duplicated by a normal, kindly family man who just comes into
work every day and has a job to do." [Terry Pratchett, "Small Gods"]
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~aa343/index.html

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My first computer was made by my dad in our basement. It was Heathkit
16K with a tape drive, and I had to program my own games in BASIC.

Then we got an Apple ][+. One of my friends had an Apple ][. We traded
games. When the Apple started to go, we bought a second fan similar to
what Granny's fan sounds like, and kept cooling it down. If you turn it
on, it will still overheat after about 5 minutes, so you can't play
anything on it any more. I loved Eamon though. Had a real fast 300 buad
modem on the thing too.

I got a Leading Edge PC when I went to college. I've had quite a few
computers since then. 2 on my desk right now, and my sweetie has one as
well. (We used to play EverCrack together- of course we have our own
machines)

-georg

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"CK" <CatKiller@nospamplease.Bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> <snip>
>
>> Now? I can't be bothered. I never did complete Grim Fandango, the last
>> adventure type game I bought.
>
> You should. It's a really good game. One of my favourites.
>
But I have to think!....

No, I prefer the sim type games, from Sim City (absolutely basic, blocky
houses) upwards, via all the transport games, some of the business ones. I
had a Pizza parlour one that was a hoot. and Hence to Sims, glorious Sims,
the biggest doll's house in the world, perhaps. Rollercoasters, also,
parks... Didn't like zoo. Still play Industry Giant II. Lovely trains and
planes and things.
Thank goodness I can't play online.

Best 'game' for me is one where I can design, set it to run, and at times,
sit back and enjoy it.

Granny.

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"Joseph William Dixon" <aa343@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote in message
news ine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.1050213050455.26653C-100000@halifax.chebucto.ns.ca...
> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Paul wrote:
> > Hands up, has anyone here ever owned a Commodore 64 or any of the Amiga
> > family?
>
> Both. And I've yet to find a racing game in the modern era that's even
> half as good as EA's "Racing Destruction Set" on the C64.  
>
> --
> "...there are hardly any excesses of the most crazed psychopath that
cannot
> easily be duplicated by a normal, kindly family man who just comes into
> work every day and has a job to do." [Terry Pratchett, "Small Gods"]
> http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~aa343/index.html
>
I remember once on the old Commodore 64, some times the game would not load
from the data cassette, you could turn the data cassette upside down and
that sometimes worked.

Imagine this picture, you got this Cd that will not load on your pc, would
it work if you turned your pc upside down? Lol.

The other thing about these old computers was, nothing ever needed updating
on them. You could not keep spending money on hard where because it cold not
be removed.

There is know doubt in my mind, nothing else in this world has came along so
fast and so advanced as the computer, what ever you own now or in the past.
There is nothing else in this world that can do so much with so little.

I can admit now, all though I can read well enough, I am dyslectic and can
not spell at all and my computer is even learning me to do that. And just
look at everything else you can do with a PC!

I have also come to realize how everyone on this news group is always reedy
to dive in and help everyone out with good sound advice, no matter what the
subject. No one here as slapped me down for any of my spelling mistakes. "I
love this news group" It feels like home.

Paul.

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Granny Crabapple wrote:

> Best 'game' for me is one where I can design, set it to
> run, and at times, sit back and enjoy it.

Did you play the city builders? They're just like that. Zeus,
Cleopatra, Emperor... Now there is Children of the Nile. I don't
play Sims anymore, for now. Must... build... cities...

T.

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"Taemon" <Taemon@zonnet.nl> wrote in message
news:379htbF5av04pU1@individual.net...
> Granny Crabapple wrote:
>
>> Best 'game' for me is one where I can design, set it to
>> run, and at times, sit back and enjoy it.
>
> Did you play the city builders? They're just like that. Zeus,
> Cleopatra, Emperor... Now there is Children of the Nile. I don't
> play Sims anymore, for now. Must... build... cities...
>
I have never bought any of those but sit and stare at the adverts everytime
Dream sends me a booklet. Now I thought they would be like Civ II. A game I
played to death and never want to see again. 8(
Saturation point was reached. I even had some extra, Civ in space or
something and a lot more. Drove me potty, it did.

So the city builders are just one city, or a whole civillisation?

Granny.

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"Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:vyMPd.90053>
> There is know doubt in my mind, nothing else in this world has came along
> so
> fast and so advanced as the computer, what ever you own now or in the
> past.
> There is nothing else in this world that can do so much with so little.
>
> I can admit now, all though I can read well enough, I am dyslectic and can
> not spell at all and my computer is even learning me to do that. And just
> look at everything else you can do with a PC!

Oh, I agree about the spelling. I used to write like a fiend on a computer
without a spelling chicken. I was happy. Then I moved all my files over to a
new model with a built-in checker. I was aghast.

THEN alaong came the wretched PC and Word with a grammar checker.
I ignore it. What does IT know? <sniff>
>
> I have also come to realize how everyone on this news group is always
> reedy
> to dive in and help everyone out with good sound advice, no matter what
> the
> subject. No one here as slapped me down for any of my spelling mistakes.
> "I
> love this news group" It feels like home.
>
Amen to that. 8))) But since looking at that trailer trash furniture, I do
wonder.... Home?
Home is where the trash is.

Home is where my computer is. Does anyone else get withdrawal symptoms when
they go away anywhere? Fret, fret...

Granny.

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Granny Crabapple wrote:

> Home is where my computer is. Does anyone else get
> withdrawal symptoms when they go away anywhere? Fret,
> fret...

I once was without a computer for TEN DAYS. After a few days,
withdrawal symptoms began to diminish, though. So... it wasn't
really hell. Read a lot.

T.

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>> <snip>
>>
>>> Now? I can't be bothered. I never did complete Grim Fandango, the last
>>> adventure type game I bought.
>>
>> You should. It's a really good game. One of my favourites.
>>
> But I have to think!....
>
Yes, that is true. That's why I like adventure games so much. The most
immersive games that I've played have all been adventures, and the most
memorable. Although you don't tend to get as much (quantity) of gameplay
in an adventure game, I find it a much more satisfying experience. Still
different strokes for different folks...

How far did you get, out of interest?


> No, I prefer the sim type games, from Sim City (absolutely basic, blocky
> houses) upwards, via all the transport games, some of the business ones. I
> had a Pizza parlour one that was a hoot. and Hence to Sims, glorious Sims,
> the biggest doll's house in the world, perhaps. Rollercoasters, also,
> parks... Didn't like zoo. Still play Industry Giant II. Lovely trains and
> planes and things.
> Thank goodness I can't play online.
>
Point & click were always my favourite. Then when people didn't make
them any more, I switched to first person shooters, since that was all
that was really available. I got quite good at them too. I never really
felt any appeal from sports or driving games. I started playing The Sims
and strategy games because my other half enjoyed them and I got to see
what they were about, so now I've enjoyed Warcraft, Starcraft, Theme
Hospital, Theme Park and Rollercoaster Tycoon. Oh, and Dungeon Keeper.

I think that it's mostly the social aspect that I enjoy from the games
that I play. I'll generally play through an adventure game with my other
half, and the FPS and strategy games I'll normally play multiplayer over
a network. Even with The Sims I'll keep my other half posted on what's
happening to them.

> Best 'game' for me is one where I can design, set it to run, and at times,
> sit back and enjoy it.
>
> Granny.
>
>

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"CK" <CatKiller@nospamplease.Bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:cuoooa$anl$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> Now? I can't be bothered. I never did complete Grim Fandango, the last
>>>> adventure type game I bought.
>>>
>>> You should. It's a really good game. One of my favourites.
>>>
>> But I have to think!....
>>
> Yes, that is true. That's why I like adventure games so much. The most
> immersive games that I've played have all been adventures, and the most
> memorable. Although you don't tend to get as much (quantity) of gameplay
> in an adventure game, I find it a much more satisfying experience. Still
> different strokes for different folks...
>
> How far did you get, out of interest?

Ah, there is a sad story here. A friend of my son came over and took over.
He had played the game before. He knew a cheat site. He cheated, and left my
little guy in a cellar with a forklift truck. I remained in that cellar for
about two months then gave up. I am still in the cellar. In fact, I am back
at the start by now thanks to reformatting and not saving.
I know a woman who has been playing it for five years. She is getting
nowhere.
>
>

>
> I think that it's mostly the social aspect that I enjoy from the games
> that I play. I'll generally play through an adventure game with my other
> half, and the FPS and strategy games I'll normally play multiplayer over a
> network. Even with The Sims I'll keep my other half posted on what's
> happening to them.

I used to do that with great glee until I got fed up with the sad looks.
once I started gloating about Mephistopheles Jones and the Pyscho House, I
saw the blinds come down between his ears and brain, so I desisted.

Wistful... It would be nice to play in tandem with someone. Ah well. perhaps
not. All they would do is spoil my plot, so never mind.
>

Granny.

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"Granny Crabapple" <marrowjam@[reallywild]blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uYNPd.13764$8B3.12100@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:vyMPd.90053>
> > There is know doubt in my mind, nothing else in this world has came
along
> > so
> > fast and so advanced as the computer, what ever you own now or in the
> > past.
> > There is nothing else in this world that can do so much with so little.
> >
> > I can admit now, all though I can read well enough, I am dyslectic and
can
> > not spell at all and my computer is even learning me to do that. And
just
> > look at everything else you can do with a PC!
>
> Oh, I agree about the spelling. I used to write like a fiend on a
computer
> without a spelling chicken. I was happy. Then I moved all my files over to
a
> new model with a built-in checker. I was aghast.
>
> THEN alaong came the wretched PC and Word with a grammar checker.
> I ignore it. What does IT know? <sniff>
> >
> > I have also come to realize how everyone on this news group is always
> > reedy
> > to dive in and help everyone out with good sound advice, no matter what
> > the
> > subject. No one here as slapped me down for any of my spelling mistakes.
> > "I
> > love this news group" It feels like home.
> >
> Amen to that. 8))) But since looking at that trailer trash furniture, I
do
> wonder.... Home?
> Home is where the trash is.
>
> Home is where my computer is. Does anyone else get withdrawal symptoms
when
> they go away anywhere? Fret, fret...
>
> Granny.
>
>
I am using office 2000. Did you know you can disable the grammar checker!
When it looks at your grammar you will see a tick in a box somewhere, take
that out and it will stop. I do use it though. It knows more than I do!
<sniff> Lol

Yes, I do get withdrawal symptoms. Very bad. I cannot be away from my
computer at all!!! I even get fed up and board when I turn off my computer
at bed times. And then I can't sleep.

Paul.

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"Richard Forester" <richard_forester(nospam)@msn.com> wrote in message
news:420efcbf$1_2@127.0.0.1...
> I would say that the Timex Sinclair definitely falls into the category of
an
> old computer. I remember conversing with my neurosurgeon about this early
> PC when I first got my Atari 800. His wife was telling me about some
> text-graphics (character based) game that taxed the system pretty badly...
> something called "Prince Billy" I think.
>
> I've had the following old computers:
>
> Atari 400
> Atari 800
> Atari 800XL
> Atari 130XE
> IBM PC (original PC)
> Atari 520ST
> Amiga 500
>
> After my last move I sold/donated/threw out all of my old equipment. I
now
> use emulators to experience some of the old charm.
>
> Richard
>
>
> "Bluegenie2" <me@fuil.com> wrote in message
> news:lM-dnfnO5sZSb5PfRVn-ow@comcast.com...
> > Well I was asking if my TI-994A would count as an old computer, like the
> > amiga or commodore.
> > It used the tv as a monitor and saving was done with cassette tape and i
> > had
> > a ball with it.
> > It was given to be by my father after the doc told me I had to sit at
home
> > on my ass for the last 6 months of my pregnancy. So for 6 months, I
> > altered
> > programs written for other computers so that they would work on mine.
I
> > made my own cute little programs, including music and graphics. Then
the
> > baby was born and the computer forgotten  
> >
> > "Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news wtPd.70079$B8.871@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >>
> >> "Bluegenie2" <me@fuil.com> wrote in message
> >> news:At-dnVexWaOzz5PfRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> >> >
> >> > "Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> >> > news:UQoPd.68842$B8.66378@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >> > >
> >> > > "Schfooge" <schfooge@NOSPAMFORME.rogers.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:z-ednTss2_c5EpDfRVn-rw@rogers.com...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "georg" <thegeorg@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> > > > news:6uLOd.40175$ZD1.8324@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> >> > > > > Richard Forester wrote:
> >> > > > >> This probably seems obvious but get Windows XP. Why are you
> >> messing
> >> > > > >> around with a lame OS like Win98 anyway?
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Because Win 98SE was the most stable of the Windohs OS line?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I'd have kept it if I could, but I was forced into XP.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > -georg
> >> > > >
> >> > > > XP is waaaaay more stable than 98.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > Can anyone tell me if the Guinness Book of records holds the
longest
> >> post?
> >> > >
> >> > > More Over, can anyone tell me what this original post was about?
Lol
> >> > >
> >> > > And just in case, if anyone is wondering what Windows XP, 2000 and
98
> > as
> >> > got
> >> > > to do with Sims 2. I think it's because we are all in agreement
here,
> >> Sims
> >> > 2
> >> > > is compatible with all these operating systems.
> >> > >
> >> > > Last but not lest. In my opinion even Windows 95 was better than
> > Windows
> >> > ME.
> >> > > And Sims 2 will not work on ether!
> >> > >
> >> > > And ones again, thank you Richard for telling me about Virtual PC.
I
> > had
> >> > > herd of this product but never knew what it was till now. It sounds
a
> >> > > logical alternative than Windows 98. It sounds like something in
the
> >> lines
> >> > > of virtual Amiga 12 for your pc. But that's a hole another story.
And
> >> no,
> >> > > just in case anyone asks, Sims 2 will not run on Amiga ether! Lol.
> >> > >
> >> > > Hands up, has anyone here ever owned a Commodore 64 or any of the
> > Amiga
> >> > > family?
> >> > >
> >> > > Paul.
> >> >
> >> > Does a TI004-A count?
> >>
> >> Yes, why not? Tell us more about your TI004-A count. It's not one I've
> > know
> >> about.
> >>
> >> Paul.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
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I had the Atari 800XL with the high rez monitor. Treble was even with all
that; you could not play color games on it.

I think it was after the Atari 800XL I moved on to the Amiga 1200. Witch I
still have.

I am still looking around the house trying to find the space to set it all
up again. At my old flat, I even got my Amiga net-worked on my home network.
I could even surf the Internet on it! Truly amazing when the Amiga first
came out, they where never meant to be used on the Internet.

Paul.

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"Bluegenie2" <me@fuil.com> wrote in message
news:lM-dnfnO5sZSb5PfRVn-ow@comcast.com...
> Well I was asking if my TI-994A would count as an old computer, like the
> amiga or commodore.
> It used the tv as a monitor and saving was done with cassette tape and i
had
> a ball with it.
> It was given to be by my father after the doc told me I had to sit at home
> on my ass for the last 6 months of my pregnancy. So for 6 months, I
altered
> programs written for other computers so that they would work on mine. I
> made my own cute little programs, including music and graphics. Then the
> baby was born and the computer forgotten  
I bet that was a godsend! A lifesaver I bet. The commodore 64 also used a TV
as a monitor. Also the Amiga1200 could use a TV as a monitor. Or even a high
rez monitor.

And I bet it was your TI-994A that got you started off on computing?

Paul.


>
> "Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news wtPd.70079$B8.871@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >
> > "Bluegenie2" <me@fuil.com> wrote in message
> > news:At-dnVexWaOzz5PfRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> > >
> > > "Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:UQoPd.68842$B8.66378@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > > >
> > > > "Schfooge" <schfooge@NOSPAMFORME.rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:z-ednTss2_c5EpDfRVn-rw@rogers.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > "georg" <thegeorg@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:6uLOd.40175$ZD1.8324@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > > > > > Richard Forester wrote:
> > > > > >> This probably seems obvious but get Windows XP. Why are you
> > messing
> > > > > >> around with a lame OS like Win98 anyway?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Because Win 98SE was the most stable of the Windohs OS line?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'd have kept it if I could, but I was forced into XP.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -georg
> > > > >
> > > > > XP is waaaaay more stable than 98.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Can anyone tell me if the Guinness Book of records holds the longest
> > post?
> > > >
> > > > More Over, can anyone tell me what this original post was about? Lol
> > > >
> > > > And just in case, if anyone is wondering what Windows XP, 2000 and
98
> as
> > > got
> > > > to do with Sims 2. I think it's because we are all in agreement
here,
> > Sims
> > > 2
> > > > is compatible with all these operating systems.
> > > >
> > > > Last but not lest. In my opinion even Windows 95 was better than
> Windows
> > > ME.
> > > > And Sims 2 will not work on ether!
> > > >
> > > > And ones again, thank you Richard for telling me about Virtual PC. I
> had
> > > > herd of this product but never knew what it was till now. It sounds
a
> > > > logical alternative than Windows 98. It sounds like something in the
> > lines
> > > > of virtual Amiga 12 for your pc. But that's a hole another story.
And
> > no,
> > > > just in case anyone asks, Sims 2 will not run on Amiga ether! Lol.
> > > >
> > > > Hands up, has anyone here ever owned a Commodore 64 or any of the
> Amiga
> > > > family?
> > > >
> > > > Paul.
> > >
> > > Does a TI004-A count?
> >
> > Yes, why not? Tell us more about your TI004-A count. It's not one I've
> know
> > about.
> >
> > Paul.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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"Will Bradshaw" <wbradshaw@beasolutions.com> wrote in message
news:37702gF5an5mvU1@individual.net...
> Paul wrote:
> > Hands up, has anyone here ever owned a Commodore 64 or any of the
> > Amiga family?
>
> My Brother got an Amiga 600 for his 6th (IIRC) Birthday. Originaly it had
> no HDD or OS, but we got them a bit later. Most of the games got
corrupted
> but I think GORF (some space invaders type game that has nothing to do
with
> frogs) and Bally (big box with a little dot that you guide around to
> highlight areas of the box, when you get 70% you go to the next level, but
> you must avoid the other dots) still work. That was only 13 years ago,
> things have kinda changed a bit since then.
>
>
You should take a look at these links!

http://amiga.emucamp.com/g_dl_a.htm

http://www.cucug.org/amiga.html

http://aminet.back2roots.org/aminet/browse.html

http://us.aminet.net/

http://www.aminet-gui.de/

http://www.back2roots.org/

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/blobrana/index.html

And here you will find lots of free, legal game downloads.

http://www.back2roots.org/News/

And here.

http://amiga.supergamez.hu/EngIntroSet.html

And also, I think you will find this interesting.

http://www.amigatopc.com/

Has you can see Amiga is still not dead! You can download all these games
for your Amiga for free. You will have to read up on how to convert the adf
files back to Amiga format again. It's not hard to do I promises! Go on a
look at the links. Have lots of fun.

Paul.

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Granny Crabapple wrote:

> "Taemon" <Taemon@zonnet.nl> wrote in message
> news:379htbF5av04pU1@individual.net...
> > Granny Crabapple wrote:
> > > Best 'game' for me is one where I can design, set it
> > > to run, and at times, sit back and enjoy it.
> > Did you play the city builders? They're just like that.
> > Zeus, Cleopatra, Emperor... Now there is Children of
> > the Nile. I don't play Sims anymore, for now. Must...
> > build... cities...
> I have never bought any of those but sit and stare at the
> adverts everytime Dream sends me a booklet. Now I
> thought they would be like Civ II. A game I played to
> death and never want to see again. 8(

Heh. The citybuilders are different. More focused on development,
less on conquering. Also, they are real-time. If your city is
stable, you can chose to sit back and watch the proceedings. My
love can watch the doings of the little people for hours. I
prefer to go on building, but slowly, slowly.

> So the city builders are just one city, or a whole
> civillisation?

Usually they're one city, but big ones; you might need several
districts, basically sub-cities.

T.

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CK wrote:

> > > <snip>
> > > > Now? I can't be bothered. I never did complete Grim
> > > > Fandango, the last adventure type game I bought.
> > > You should. It's a really good game. One of my
> > > favourites.
> > But I have to think!....
> Yes, that is true. That's why I like adventure games so
> much. The most immersive games that I've played have all
> been adventures, and the most memorable.

I love adventure games, but I didn't get very far in Grim
Fandango. I prefer games in which the puzzles are actually
solveable without a walkthrough.

> Point & click were always my favourite. Then when people
> didn't make them any more, I switched to first person
> shooters, since that was all that was really available.

I hate shooters. I hate dying :-) I hate having to be alert and
fast if needed. I prefer adventures in which I can take my time
at everything.

> I think that it's mostly the social aspect that I enjoy
> from the games that I play. I'll generally play through
> an adventure game with my other half,

Really? I thought me and my love are the only people in the world
who play adventures together. I love it. I'm not wholy joking
when I say it's one of the pillars of our relationship.

T.

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"Granny Crabapple" <marrowjam@[reallywild]blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uYNPd.13764$8B3.12100@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
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> "Paul" <paul.cominscoch@XSblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > There is know doubt in my mind, nothing else in this world has came
along
> > so
> > fast and so advanced as the computer, what ever you own now or in the
> > past.
> > There is nothing else in this world that can do so much with so little.
> >
> > I can admit now, all though I can read well enough, I am dyslectic and
can
> > not spell at all and my computer is even learning me to do that. And
just
> > look at everything else you can do with a PC!
>
> Oh, I agree about the spelling. I used to write like a fiend on a
computer
> without a spelling chicken. I was happy. Then I moved all my files over to
a
> new model with a built-in checker. I was aghast.
>
> THEN alaong came the wretched PC and Word with a grammar checker.
> I ignore it. What does IT know? <sniff>
> >
> > I have also come to realize how everyone on this news group is always
> > reedy
> > to dive in and help everyone out with good sound advice, no matter what
> > the
> > subject. No one here as slapped me down for any of my spelling mistakes.
> > "I
> > love this news group" It feels like home.
> >
> Amen to that. 8))) But since looking at that trailer trash furniture, I
do
> wonder.... Home?
> Home is where the trash is.
>
> Home is where my computer is. Does anyone else get withdrawal symptoms
when
> they go away anywhere? Fret, fret...
>
> Granny

I just drag my computer with me when I am moving or running away from home,
lol. It went to maine and back with me  

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