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I'm a power user, but only game casually. I like to game at high resolutions, I play Civilizations IV Colinizations, Age of the Empires III, Madden 2008, TrackManiaNations, and a little Call of Duty 4/Battlefield 2.

My current rig:
Q6700 (stock cooling, undervolted .125volt)
Foxconn Geforce 256MB 7900 GS-OC (factory overclocked almost 50%)
2x2GB Gskill PC2-8500 1066MHZ CL5.5.5.15
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L 2.0
Windows XP SP3/Windows 7 Dual boot
24" 1920x1200 LCD Monitor

I use Office 2003/2007, Adobe Design CS4, and a bunch of networking tools (VPN/SSH/RDP)

My games run decent. I know simply putting in a better graphics card will help somewhat in the games, but I want to increase overall system performance. I'm wondering if how much I would have to spend to get a decent upgrade, or if I should invest in a better CPU cooler and try overclocking. Energy costs & noise are an issue, so I haven't done much with overclocking.

I saw this one on the Egg...Would it be much of an upgrade?

E8500: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115036
Q9200S:

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Your bottlenecking bad. You need to upgrade to the 9800 GT or better.

Reply to mamw93

mamw93 wrote :

Your bottlenecking bad. You need to upgrade to the 9800 GT or better.



I know the graphics is bottlenecking. I'm asking about the CPU. Is that bottlenecking me much? I'm not just concerned about graphics performance, but overall system performance. I'm not one of those diehards that keeps my system processes to a minimum. It's a home/work PC so I run ~70 processes. Am I going to see much of a boost with a E8500 (going from 4 cores to 2 cores) or a Q8xxx or 9xxx?

Reply to singingigo

No, no, no! stick with the Q6700, spend a bit of cash on a decent cooler and It should push to at least 3/3.2. What stepping have you got. did they do a G0 Q6700?

Reply to mi1ez

It's G0, I'm 99% sure.

Reply to singingigo

Get yourself a HD4890 and get a xigmatek s1283 or s1283v cooler and overclock that processor to at least 3.2ghz.
You'll be very happy.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150359

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233003
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233029


Message edited by zipzoomflyhigh on 04-02-2009 at 10:33:59 PM
------------------------------ P965/Q6700@3.2 8MB HD4850 OC Edition
4GB Corsair XMS 800
Vista64/Win7
Fatality 550w/Antec 300
Reply to zipzoomflyhigh

Q6700 is only GO Stepping http://processorfinder.intel.com/L [...] =&OrdCode=
I agree, Better HSF and current Video Card

Reply to knotknut

@knotknut. Never knew that! Every day's a school day!

Anyway, my Q6600 is at 3.6GHz, you should get yours a fair way.

Reply to mi1ez

What is that going to do for my energy costs & noise? I.E if I have to overvolt it and use bigger HSF, would it be cheaper over the course of 2 years to by a faster, more energy efficient model?

Reply to singingigo

No, Qxxx processors are quite expensive and socket 775 is at the end of the road. It would be a waste of money because your processor will be fast at 3.2+ as the current generation of Qxxx processors.

------------------------------ P965/Q6700@3.2 8MB HD4850 OC Edition
4GB Corsair XMS 800
Vista64/Win7
Fatality 550w/Antec 300
Reply to zipzoomflyhigh

mi1ez I want your Q6600... mine cries at 3.3 :(
Anyway, energy cost won't go up all that much compared to what your system already sucks down, noise won't go up at all because the S1283 is quieter than the stock intel HSF (larger fans are generally quieter).

Buying a new, more energy efficient CPU won't pay for itself in the home environment if you're replacing an existing CPU, they're mainly targetted at either new systems, or places where you've got dozens of systems running.

------------------------------ Antec 1200 -=- Corsair HX1000 -=- GA-X48-DQ6 -=- Q6600 @ 3.2 GHz -=- 8GB RAM @ 800 MHz CL4 -=- 4870X2 800/1000 -=- 2x 500GB 7.2k RPM -=- 150GB 10k RPM
Reply to Kraynor

for better overall performance with the kind of work you're doing, get 8Gb of ram with a good 64bits OS like vista 64 and disable the swap file.

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,1775.html

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Reply to nocteratus

Agreed, do NOT upgrade your CPU. You would see only marginal gains and it would cost you $250+ to get them. Overclocking or the move to 8GB/64-bit are your two best options.

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Reply to B-Unit

I'm looking at that XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 heatsink. I'm wonding if it will fit in my case. I have an Antec Sonata 500. If not, does anyone have any other suggestions that would fit into my case and allow for overclocking?

HSF: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233003
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129036

Also, I have XP 32 bit (not going to reinstall for 64 bit) and Windows 7 Beta (I'd go 64 bit). I have a copy of Vista but forgot to install it before I put Windows 7 on, and now I don't know if I can setup a triple boot from the vista install disk. And I'm not too keen on installing a Linux GRUB bootloader...

Reply to singingigo

http://www.frostytech.com is probably the best place for heatsink reviews. Not sure if it'd fit in your case because I'm too lazy to look up the specs... it fits in my Antec 1200 though... not that it's much help knowing that because the 1200 is huge... ^^;

------------------------------ Antec 1200 -=- Corsair HX1000 -=- GA-X48-DQ6 -=- Q6600 @ 3.2 GHz -=- 8GB RAM @ 800 MHz CL4 -=- 4870X2 800/1000 -=- 2x 500GB 7.2k RPM -=- 150GB 10k RPM
Reply to Kraynor

Better video card. GTX 260 or better. Just be sure you have the power to run it.

Reply to mamw93

Just noticed the video card... at those resolutions you really want something with upwards of 1GB RAM... Personally recommend the ATI HD4890, if it's better than the 4870 then that's one hell of a card (get a 4870 if the 90 is outside your budget range)

------------------------------ Antec 1200 -=- Corsair HX1000 -=- GA-X48-DQ6 -=- Q6600 @ 3.2 GHz -=- 8GB RAM @ 800 MHz CL4 -=- 4870X2 800/1000 -=- 2x 500GB 7.2k RPM -=- 150GB 10k RPM
Reply to Kraynor
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