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January 5, 2009 9:40:34 PM

Hi guys,

New to the board, glad to be hear!

Ok, my system is failing....I'm in need of a new rig, so I want to build one myself. I'm not that technical, and it's been years (2003) since I last looked at anything, so things have changed.

Basically, I have about $1,000 - $1,200 to spend, and I want to buy a decent rig. I have all the peripherals I need (22in LCD, keyword/mouse, speakers), so it's just the blood 'n guts I need....plus some armor.

Now, the first thing I'm having troubles with is deciding whether to get a duo or quad core. I plan on doing some gaming (Diablo 3, bwahaha...and some fps's) and want something I can expand later (a mobo with sli/crossfire?). But I do a lot of web design/dev and multitask like a mofo (probably not half as well as some of you).

I like the idea of sticking with intel as I've read they are ahead in the race for now, but am open I suppose.

Next is a mobo.

Well, I have no clue. I don't need fancy gadgets. I don't plan on needing wifi or external sata (which sounds cool)...just onboard lan and the other basics and I'm happy. I love the idea of having sli or something similar, and something that i can stuff with ram.

Last main thing is the vid card. I am not a WoW player but will play Diablo 3 when it comes out. Otherwise I'll play some shooters, and would love to play crysis. It sounds like the 9800 or 4850 are good?

I guess some ram should be in there too, so if there's anything spefic I should look for I would appreciate it.

I'm in Vancouver, so our usual ordering site is: Ncix.com although some of there towers look pricey.

I'll also need: power supply, dvd burner, hard drive ($70 ?)....anything else?

Thanks SOO much for taking the time to read. What I'm looking for is which component I should buy. There's always that 'but wait til the i7 comes down in price *i don't really know why it's much better*' but I just want to buy something soon.
Evan
January 5, 2009 10:41:00 PM

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $229.99

GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $158.99 - $20.00 MIR

G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $61.09

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $97.99

SAPPHIRE 100258-1GL Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $197.89

PC Power & Cooling S75CF 750W EPS12V SLI NVIDIA SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $146.39 - $40.00 MIR

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $134.39

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $30.49

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=22438&vpn=66... $155.04

Total - $1,212.26 - $60.00 MIR's = $1,152.26

The GA-EP45-UD3P and 750W PSU make the system ready to add another GPU in crossfire later. If you don't need the OS, you could upgrade to a 4870 1GB GPU. I highly recommend 64-bit Vista, though.

SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $299.09
January 5, 2009 10:41:05 PM

Just a few ideas to get you started. Use Newegg.ca for Canadian dollar conversions. Adjust by preference as needed. The memory I listed is for someone who will NOT overclock (at least very much) but is very reliable.
The video card is not the cheapest 4870, your mileage may vary.
If you want to play games, the mouse is the nuts...

NZXT TEMPEST CS-NT-TEM-B ATX Mid Tower $110-20+ship 1/5/09
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case asthetics vary, just make sure there's room for the videocard.

PC Power & Cooling S75CF Red 750W $120-40+0 (thru 1/16) 1/5/09
Blue add $10, Black add $25 (just for color!)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 P45 ATX $120-15+ship 1/5/09
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Kingston ValueRAM 4GB DDR2 KVR800D2N5K2/4G $38+ship 1/05/09
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 $165+0 1/5/09
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE 100243TXSR Radeon 4870 512MB Toxic Edition $230+ship 1/5/09
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

WD Black WD6401AALS 640GB 32MB $80+0 1/5/09
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Black 22X SATA DVD Burner OEM SH-S223F $26+0 1/5/09
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Logitech G5 USB Laser 2000-dpi Mouse $46+ship 1/05/09
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 5, 2009 10:43:48 PM

shortstuff_mt, great minds think alike...
January 5, 2009 10:46:19 PM

Newf said:
shortstuff_mt, great minds think alike...

LOL - Yea the builds are pretty similar. :) 
January 5, 2009 11:43:52 PM

I say just get a fast dual core around 3ghz, 4gig DDR2 ram, and at least a 4850 or Nvidia's 260. I also say wait a few days, Nvidia is gonna be releasing their newest cards would should be dropping prices even more.
Otherwise www.newegg.com is the SHyT :) 
January 6, 2009 12:00:38 AM

Antec 900 case: upside - great cooling. Downside - poor cable management without a lot of work, non-removeable motherboard tray, lots of screws. And it doesn't include a system speaker.

I have one; I like it - the cooling capacity makes it worthwhile to me. But it is something that you need to be aware of.
January 6, 2009 12:30:30 AM

cpu 189
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

ram 56+56
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

mobo 170
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

hdd's 80+128
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=31806&vpn=PE...
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

dvdrw 26
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

video card 177
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

monitor 232
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

speakers 97
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

case + psu 122 (psu should push whole system as configured)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

os is your choice

mouse and keyboard are also mostly preference, i suggest 2k dpi or better

1333 + shipping.... I would check for a less expensive monitor maybe to shave some dough. Not a bad price, but it's a good place to sit for a great gaming rig. So save a little more or scale back a bit on the monitor.
I get paid to put parts together all day long and if you want a decent game setup this is awesome. BTW that setup is basically setup to play any game off the shelf on high settings if not maxed. I own the speakers, they're awesome btw.

happy building. (and check to make sure you have all the sata cables and maybe a 2.5 to 3.5 mounting bracket for the ssd)

January 6, 2009 12:36:31 AM

btw, the system i just built for you has 8gigs of ram and an ssd for the os and the terabyte drive for storage. i suppose you could live without those, but your rig would dominate on boot time and storage capacity/ I/O on both drives, not to mention 8 gigs of ram is prime for vista if you wanted it, but maybe overkill if you don't do tons of multitasking. (ps on a 32 gig ssd, i wouldn't install vista unless you tweak it NOT to take up 25 gigs of space, should be more like 3-4 if you know what you're doing)
January 6, 2009 12:39:00 AM

one more thing.... that mobo may require an 8 pin connector for the mobo, i have no idea if that power supply has just a 4 pin or an 8 pin, if it doesn't then get an adapter or chose a separate case/psu
January 6, 2009 10:27:34 PM

Thanks so much for your help guys!

Ok, so I put together a system that looks good to me based off of everyone's suggestions....Can someone take a quick look and make sure everything will work? Heh. I just want to make sure, maybe I added something that won't work. Plus any tweaks would be appreciated!




LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model iHAS120-04


RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WB530P Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case With 530W Modular LED Power Supply


Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

HIS Hightech H485FN512P Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card


CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply


G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL6D-4GBNQ


GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard


Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600
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