HD 4995X2 comming soon .

[salem80]

looks like ATI will be first one to release 40nm GPUs

After RV740, the next AMD venture on the 40nm silicon process will be the company's next flagship GPU: the RV790.

the RV790XT gets HD 4970, RV790Pro gets HD 4950 and the dual-GPU flagship SKU could be named Radeon HD 4995 X2. Talk about competitive naming.

and the new RV790 names are from Highend
HD 4995X2
HD 4970
HD 4950
and (RV740 )for midend GPU HD 4700
http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?83591
and

http://66.102.7.100/translate_c?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://news.ati-forum.de/index.php/news/34-amdati-grafikkarten/277-ati-radeon-hd4995-x2-mit-rv790-kommt&usg=ALkJrhjJnuRhr2koaqVnIRSa8G8X5IpETw



EDIT:

It's assumed that the RV740 will make its debut at CeBIT held in Hannover, Germany on March 3-8

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/AMD-ATI-Radeon-Phenom,6936.html

So HD4995X2 come in march too..

 

[outlw6669]

Please fix your link.

 

[salem80]

Please fix your link.

now it's work .

 

[gamerk316]

Hooray price wars! $200 GTX 280, coming to a store near you later this summer!

 

[pr2thej]

Hooray maxed GTA IV!

 

[L1qu1d]

Ew why are they naming them the 4 series again? They should be the 5, but anyways I don't see these comin till next Oct

 

[salem80]

Ew why are they naming them the 4 series again? They should be the 5, but anyways I don't see these comin till next Oct

because 5 include DX11 .
if HD4995X2(if this it name) come out soon say goodbye to GTX295 .

 

[rescawen]

so 4800 - 4900 - 5800 etc?

not 4800 - 5800

what will the next GTX names be GTX 320, 340 ?? It can't go over GTX 360 ?

 

[rangers]

^^
yes only a different arch gets a new name

 

[salem80]

so 4800 - 4900 - 5800 etc?

not 4800 - 5800

what will the next GTX names be GTX 320, 340 ?? It can't go over GTX 360 ?

they add another jump here
the HD4000 are popular now so why not ..
4300 ,4400, 4500, 4600 , 4700 , 4800 , 4900 .

 

[L1qu1d]

because 5 include DX11 .
if HD4995X2(if this it name) come out soon say goodbye to GTX295 .

LOL we'll see, ATI is currently getting man handled by their crappy drivers. SOooo we'll see what these cards will do.

Its stupid how instead of supporting current generation cards, they choose to screw the consumer and move on. The 4870 X2 still has its on little flaws, Quad fire is like flipping and coin, and the 4850 X2 just came out, and I haven;'t heard anything about it's support.

Ati needs to reclaim the worthy driver market, not the GPU crown.

Thats My opinion...looks like my 4870 X2 is about ready to be thrown out the window.

GG Ati...honestly I don't like Nvidia stupid naming and rebranding and refresh (which is much like what ATI is doing now) but atleast their drivers deliver, and are basically monthly compared to ATIs guess and check drivers.

 

[L1qu1d]

Haven't tried, too lazy to try it.

If i put the 280 GTX in, I have to take all of them out to that one out

 

[turboflame]

I don't like Nvidia stupid naming and rebranding and refresh (which is much like what ATI is doing now)

That's a bit of a stretch, with ATI there are new cards with different GPUs being released. Nvidia just took the exact same card and gave it a new name, except for the 9600GT, the only original 9 series card.

Supposedly ATI's new HD4900 cards will have more stream processors (840 vs 800 now) as well as more TMUs. So it's not just a die shrink (according to rumors anyway).

 

[L1qu1d]

That wasn't my main argument, and that sounds alot like the Sp 192-216. If they are only increasing it by 40....I don't see much coming from the card, though the TMUs might help.


I still think they should be concentrating on some decent drivers for a change, rather than making ppl regret buying its previous series.

We need a single GPU based card, that can perform well, instead of all this idiotic dual GPU cards selection

 

[Dekasav]

I expect clockspeed will be the difference between 4800 and 4900. That, or they're just going to phase out the 4800's (like Nvidia's GTX260 -> 260-216)

As for re-naming, I don't mind it. Kinda reminds me of the 8800-> 9800 switch, but they're not adding a thousand, just one hundred.

Though the ATI Radeon HD 4995 X2 sounds dumber than anything I've heard in quite some time..... unless its on a 32nm process, but I'm sure that's not the case.

 

[yipsl]

Ati needs to reclaim the worthy driver market, not the GPU crown.

Thats My opinion...looks like my 4870 X2 is about ready to be thrown out the window.

Don't throw it out the window, send it to me. I have one shipping today that's a warranty replacement for a 3870x2 that died after 11 1/2 months.

I'm sorry about your issues. I might experience them too. It all depends on what games one plays. Benchies I've noted show ATI and Nvidia neck and neck at particular price points with only major driver issues for either company in one or two games.

The guys who write drivers for ATI and Nvidia don't work on their die shrinks. There also has to be support from the game developers. I play LOTRO and it really does not support either Crossfire or SLI all that well. The full power of the 4870x2 will be in Fallout 3 and Mass Effect, as well as replaying The Witcher and Oblivion.

To the OP;

This is a die shrink of the 4xxx series. It should show some improvements in thermals and might have higher clocks. We'll see. I do know that I was seriously disappointed that a sub $200 4850 equaled the 3870x2 I'd bought five months before without Crossfire issues. Now, I don't expect a sub $200 card to equal the 4870x2, but if ATI works a bit more on Crossfire, then the 4995x2 should be a very nice 40nm revision.

 

[The_Blood_Raven]

LOL we'll see, ATI is currently getting man handled by their crappy drivers. SOooo we'll see what these cards will do.

Its stupid how instead of supporting current generation cards, they choose to screw the consumer and move on. The 4870 X2 still has its on little flaws, Quad fire is like flipping and coin, and the 4850 X2 just came out, and I haven;'t heard anything about it's support.

Ati needs to reclaim the worthy driver market, not the GPU crown.

Thats My opinion...looks like my 4870 X2 is about ready to be thrown out the window.

GG Ati...honestly I don't like Nvidia stupid naming and rebranding and refresh (which is much like what ATI is doing now) but atleast their drivers deliver, and are basically monthly compared to ATIs guess and check drivers.

In all the discussions you've been in this is the first time I've heard that you have had problems with your 4870 X2. Honestly my 4870 X2 is the best dual GPU card I've ever used. The 3870 X2 was horrendous, the 9800 GX2 was almost as bad, but the 4870 X2 doesn't give me any more problems than a regular SLI or crossfire setup. The only time the onboard crossfire wont work is when I'm already getting 100s of FPS so I don't complain. I did find that tweaking the settings in CCC for some games relieved difficulties. The most notable was the crashing in Fallout 3, but was fixed by forcing AA instead of using it in game.

You don't think the 4995 X2 will beat the GTX 295? all the GTX 295 is 2 overclocked GTX 260s smashed together while the 4995 X2 will be 2 overclocked 4870s smashed together. Sounds close to me.

Actually the biggest driver problem I have ever had was trying to SLI 2 8800 GTS 512s, I had to skip one of the official drivers because that particular one BSOD all day long. Drivers seem to be pretty bad on both sides, but you never hear about nVidia's driver troubles...

 

[spathotan]

L1qu1d -

LOL we'll see, ATI is currently getting man handled by their crappy drivers. SOooo we'll see what these cards will do.

I wasnt aware the 4000 series had driver issues. Sounds like an isolated issue to me.

Its stupid how instead of supporting current generation cards, they choose to screw the consumer and move on. The 4870 X2 still has its on little flaws, Quad fire is like flipping and coin,

How is this any different from Nvidia and tri-SLi? Please...

and the 4850 X2 just came out, and I haven;'t heard anything about it's support.

Thats because the 4850X2 is a propritary card held by Sapphire and Sapphire only, they are responsible for tweaking the drivers to work for their card.

Dont act so threatened by a new release.

 

[L1qu1d]

Nvidia's tri sli doesn't have the scaling issues that quad sli and fire have

Please if your going to route for a company try not being a fanboy. The drivers were direct at anything above 2 gpus for ati.

Nvidia can't scale 4 gpus, but they can atleast do 3 well. Ati needs to bring their drivers to order and then start dealing out higher powered cards.

I don't threaten over anything you kno why? theres something known as selling your cards and moving onto the next

And don't try and tell me that tri doesn't scale better than quad over all.

I'm not putting down ATi at all, infact we need both comapnies, but I just don't think it taking lessons from Nvidia and jumping in a quick release, a nother G92b...they should be making the next innovation. This isn't innovation, this is quick things slapped together.

Its like seeing a bum on the street (Nvidia) and a buisnessman (ATI). You expect the bum to steal, but now the businessman is learning from the bum and stealing?

Oh yeah 1 more thing, don't direct your comments to a particular user if you have nothign to say.

Thank you.

These cards will do nothing, and the ppl with the 4 series will get screwed just like the early 200 series owners got screwed because of the refreshes...going to be hard to sli a 280 or 260 in the near future.

Wait for DX 11 cards unless theres a free upgrade

 

[spathotan]

I was pointing out the fallacies in your post, that simple. Ill direct it to who I want when I want. Also I mentioned nothing about scaling of any type at all so I dont even know or care how youve brought that up, whatever. Ive used 3 different HD4000 cards from 3 different brands with no driver issues, yet youve used a 4870X2 and had problems apparently, so its all of a sudden an epidemic? Both companies have their own little driver issues.

Fanboism has nothing to do with it, and im not ROOTING for any company. Ive owned twice as many Nvidia cards as ive owned ATI cards.

Dont act so defensive like im trying to beat up on you all the time, its nothing personal obviously. I dont want ovaltine to show up and "save" you again.

 

[L1qu1d]

What you pointed is a waste of time.

Indeed I wasnt specific about the drivers, what I meant was scaling issues with the drivers. And you mention drivers for tri sli, which is scaling.

Frankly I'm happy these are coming out, I mean it will bring prices down again and maybe I can afford another 285 GTX

Although I am interested in seeing how cheap the ATI. I wouldn`t mind switching back, since my fav card was the 1950 XT and the 9500 pro.

We need more cards that can be softmoded

I decided to change the convo seeing none of us have any information to prove or disprove the next series.

 

[rescawen]

ATI should work on their shader clock and drivers. Also improve their physics engine and nvidia has nothing to say

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

First of all, there is seperate drivers for the 4850x2. Also, the 295 barely beats out the 4870x2 now, let alone if they release something like this, ATI wins big time. Since you claim you dont like quadfire http://www.behardware.com/articles/736-7/report-4-radeon-hd-4870s-versus-3-geforce-gtx-280s.html
Whats wrong with it? As for 3 cards in CF, ask antman, and he'll tell you how wrong you are on your comments about scaling for ATI in trifire. Quit with your fanboi kneejerking. If these cards come, itll take back the crown.
As for renaming it to 5xxx, thats something nVidia would do, when its only a die shrink with tweaks, hell, nVidia did that even without any of that, so dont complain about what most people see as the proper way to name a product, as in, keeping it all withing the same gen, 4xxx, instead of acting likes its a new one, like nVidia does

 

[febisfebi]

I hear that nvidia 40nm gpu's should be showing up in q2 2009, It will be interesting to see how they compare. Anyone heard any more details on nvidia 40nm?
also, I'm not sure when dx11 is set to come out, but I heard that was something nvidia might be waiting on to release 40nm.

 

[febisfebi]

ATI should work on their shader clock and drivers. Also improve their physics engine and nvidia has nothing to say

ati should work on their outdated 256 bit memory bus width. and the physics engine I totally agree on. as far as their shader clock, its amazing how 216 nvidia shaders do more than 800 of ati's