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January 6, 2009 11:48:32 AM

Hello everyone,

I am on a really tight budget so here goes:

I am probably ordering this tomorrow and my question is, If i put a 9800GT on that system, would it be decent enough for gaming? (i'm not talking running high in crysis or whatever, but something decent enough)...

MSI K9N6PGM2-V Socket AM2 Barebone Kit - AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2.6GHz OEM Processor, 3GB DDR2-667 Memory, 250GB SATA II, ATX Mid-Tower Case, 450-Watt Power Supply
they are asking for 259.99$CAN for this kit..

or should I go with this one?
XFX GeForce 8200 Socket AM2/AM2+ Barebone Kit - AMD Athlon 64 X2 5800+ 3.0GHz OEM, 2GB DDR2 PC6400 Corsair, ATX Mid-Tower Case, 600 Watt Power Supply
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

Thing is, with this one, I would have to wait another month to get my vid card/HDD. and get it running. First one comes with pretty much everything except a video card.

Right now I'm using a p4. 3.0ghz with a 7600GT and all i'm playing is WOW but it's kind of lagging behind, in major cities my FPS drops to like 10-15fps.

let me know, looking forward to suggestions/opinions.

thank you

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January 6, 2009 12:02:18 PM

1. What is the exact PSU? If that PSU that comes with the kit is cr@p, you'll probably need to upgrade that also.

2. What exact motherboard models?
January 6, 2009 12:09:48 PM

1) actually it doesn't say what kind of power supply it is...:/ here's the link to the barebone kit:
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...


2)XFX GeForce 8200 Motherboard
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item...

XFX GeForce 8200 MCP Socket AM2+ Motherboard provides spectacular performance for high-powered gaming systems for an incredibly low price. The first-ever HybridSLI motherboard, this revolutionary new platform is designed for AMD Socket AM2+ CPUS up to 95W, as well as AMD Phenom, Athlon 64 FX, Athlon 64 X2, and Athlon 64 processors.

That's the information from their website.
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January 6, 2009 12:36:50 PM

well if you get AM2+ you have future support of newer processors.

does the second barebone kit have integrated graphics on the motherboard?

if so id say go with that and live with the integrated graphics until you can afford the video card you want.

Cheers,

-PM
January 6, 2009 12:38:11 PM

If I had to chose between the two of those barebone's, I would chose the one with the faster CPU.
In either case, I am sure the included PSU is going to be a POS and should be changed.

With your (assumed) $400CAD budget, I could suggest the following build:

Foxconn G31MV-K: $52.29
E2200: $85.49
4Gb DDR2 800: $32.49 after MIR
320Gb Hd: $60.99
DVD/RW: $24.49
Antec Sonata III with Antec Earthwatts 550w PSU: $146.59

Total: $402.34 after MIR

As this motherboard has onboard graphics, you will have a fully usable system while you wait another month for the GPU.
At stock, this custom build will be more powerful than either of the barebone's you link and, even with this low end motherboard, you should have no issues overclocking to 3Ghz.

When you have enough saved up for the GPU, I would suggest getting a 4830 in the place of a 9800GT.
It will be cheaper, $122.09 on Newegg.ca, and give you higher performance than what you suggest.
January 6, 2009 12:38:48 PM

PS is a piece of junk, see review where it blew up on one person.
January 6, 2009 12:40:44 PM

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Sorry, the Antec case above comes with an Earthwatts 500w PSU not the 550w.
January 6, 2009 12:42:08 PM

I agree with outlw's build.

Better system for your $$$.

Just OC the E2200.

Great budget build outlw!!!!

-PM
January 6, 2009 12:44:48 PM

"Power Up Mid-T w/450-Watt PSU - Qty: 1 "

Sounds like you could throw it farther than it should be trusted.
January 6, 2009 12:48:16 PM

so the E2220 would be a better performer than x2 5800+?
how well does Foxconn G31MV-K oc? I'm guessing you are chosing the E2220 because of it's overclocking ability?
January 6, 2009 12:56:18 PM

rick23 said:
so the E2220 would be a better performer than x2 5800+?
how well does Foxconn G31MV-K oc? I'm guessing you are chosing the E2220 because of it's overclocking ability?


With out any hard numbers on hand, the E2200 should perform similarly to the 5800+ at stock speeds.

Yes, the E2200 was, in part, chosen because it is an able overclocker.
The primary reason for choosing the E2200 and G31MV-K, however, would be the heavy price constraints.
With your (assumed) budget, there is no way to avoid cutting corners.
Although I am fairly sure you can get 3Ghz or more out of this value motherboard, it is by no means an overclocking star.
January 6, 2009 1:13:46 PM

I got 450 to spend tomorrow. I've added the antec case, the ram, mobo and cpu from what you linked me and I'm at 432.89$. handling fees and shipping are higher there, i've never dealt with neweggs before. I'd rather stick with tigerdirect but I'll take the advice and switch to the E220. For some reason they show 2 different E2220 with different prices.
SPEED INTERFACE BUS SPEED PRICE
E2200 / 2.20GHz Socket 775 800MHz $64.99
E2180 / 2.00GHz Socket 775 800MHz $94.99
E2200 / 2.20GHz Socket 775 800MHz $97.99
E5200 / 2.50GHz Socket 775 800MHz $107.99
E2220 / 2.40GHz Socket 775 800MHz $110.99
Here is a link to motherboards with socket 775 on tiger direct, think you could suggest a good board not too pricey and would be "good" for oc?
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/category/categor...|c:1533|&Sort=4
thanks for all the help guys, apreciated
January 6, 2009 1:23:34 PM

most people have had decent experiences with newegg.. i buy from both, haven't had an issue with either. your mileage may vary.
January 6, 2009 2:38:04 PM

rick23 said:
Here is a link to motherboards with socket 775 on tiger direct, think you could suggest a good board not too pricey and would be "good" for oc?
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/category/categor...|c:1533|&Sort=4
thanks for all the help guys, apreciated



Wow.
That is a shatty selection.
TBH, I can not recommend any motherboard on that site for less than $162.99CAD.

There are two E2200's listed because one is OEM and one is retail.
That means one will not include a cooler and has a reduced warranty period.

Looking through tigerdirect.ca, I am not very impressed.
The selection is lacking and most of what they do have is overpriced.
I have been ordering from newegg US for years and have never had any issues.
January 6, 2009 2:46:56 PM

yikes.. ok thanks!
I was only saying neweggs has handling fees while TD doesn't. and shipping is twice as much for about the same amount of pieces. But if you are telling me everything in there is crap I guess .. i don't know what I will do.. sigh
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